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    Quote Originally Posted by xMrHitStickx904 View Post
    you can turn the strategy pad off btw. This demo is very good, like the zones play incredibly realistic, like it's great. I can make all of the throws, running the ball is great and I can zone blitz again. NCAA is on the shelf for a long time now. The demo is great.

    How do you turn that dumb ass strategy pad off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koach Vonner View Post
    How do you turn that dumb ass strategy pad off?
    From a couple pages back in this thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by skipwondah33 View Post
    Rudy go to Game Options at the pause screen. Then Strategy Pad Links. Turn it to On

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    So, I downloaded this but haven't played it yet. I might actually play a game or two tonight.

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    I think the same issue with zone defense and scrambling QBs that's in NCAA is in the M12 demo. It seems like defenders in flat zones don't even bother with the QB until he crosses the LOS. Hopefully this gets corrected before the game ships, as I'm having a ton of success on scrambles when I probably shouldn't.

    I'm also not liking how easy it is to rocket catch. If it's easily user picked or swatted, it'll be okay, but if it's like NCAA where the defender plays it all weird when you trigger the animation, it's going to need to be addressed. Unlike NCAA where the receiver will drop the ball a good bit, I don't think I've had a single drop yet.

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    Once again, Madden feels like it's different just to say they are different. The game plays stiff and, once again, on default All-American sliders, the OTs couldn't block me coming around the corner. Two sacks given up because the OT's fat ass can't keep up with a shitty Bears DE for more than a second. :rolleyes:

    Still has the problem of OTs not blocking DEs on stretch plays either at all or barely at all (and, no, it's not fixable by sliders unless you make them superhuman, they just don't get in position to make the block at all and definitely don't drive them to the outside, like they should for stretch plays).

    Why in the hell are they not using the no huddle system from NCAA?! Seriously?

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    Yeah, their no huddle system blows. It's no biggie, though, as it keeps douches online from running hurry up every play and quick snapping the ball, so I'm fine with it. What do you mean by it playing stiff? I thought it was extremely smooth overall and much smoother than NCAA.

    I found out today that I'm going to have to use the strategy pad since not all pre-snap adjustments are available via the old system if you turn it on. That sucks, but I guess I'll get used to it.

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    I would like Madden to add the Break Tackle rating in the future. It would add depth in run game. It would help for RBs who are power backs but are not known for trucking or stiff arm.

    What does the toughness rating actually do

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Once again, Madden feels like it's different just to say they are different. The game plays stiff and, once again, on default All-American sliders, the OTs couldn't block me coming around the corner. Two sacks given up because the OT's fat ass can't keep up with a shitty Bears DE for more than a second. :rolleyes:

    Still has the problem of OTs not blocking DEs on stretch plays either at all or barely at all (and, no, it's not fixable by sliders unless you make them superhuman, they just don't get in position to make the block at all and definitely don't drive them to the outside, like they should for stretch plays).

    Why in the hell are they not using the no huddle system from NCAA?! Seriously?
    Cause NFL Offenses don't use that type of no-huddle, the majority of College offense is spread no huddle, not so in the pros. So there is no need to add it, and util they revamp the no-huddle system, I wouldn't want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    Yeah, their no huddle system blows. It's no biggie, though, as it keeps douches online from running hurry up every play and quick snapping the ball, so I'm fine with it. What do you mean by it playing stiff? I thought it was extremely smooth overall and much smoother than NCAA.

    I found out today that I'm going to have to use the strategy pad since not all pre-snap adjustments are available via the old system if you turn it on. That sucks, but I guess I'll get used to it.
    you sure? I turned it to on, and I haven't used the D-Pad since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    What do you mean by it playing stiff? I thought it was extremely smooth overall and much smoother than NCAA.
    For me Madden is a lot smoother than NCAA. The players feel much more natural. However, some may like the super twitchy movement of the players in NCAA. It seems the NCAA devs want the game to feel like that. I prefer the feel of Madden a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMrHitStickx904 View Post
    you sure? I turned it to on, and I haven't used the D-Pad since.
    Unless I'm wrong, there were a couple things you couldn't do. I'll check again when I log back on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    For me Madden is a lot smoother than NCAA. The players feel much more natural. However, some may like the super twitchy movement of the players in NCAA. It seems the NCAA devs want the game to feel like that. I prefer the feel of Madden a lot more.
    Based on the demo I am in 100% agreement.

    P.S. Rudy, I saw your comments at OS... don't tell me you're really finished with the NCAA series? I can't believe it brother... really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    Unless I'm wrong, there were a couple things you couldn't do. I'll check again when I log back on.
    I don't see a way to slide protect without using the strategy pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Based on the demo I am in 100% agreement.

    P.S. Rudy, I saw your comments at OS... don't tell me you're really finished with the NCAA series? I can't believe it brother... really?
    I'm done buying NCAA on day one. And I won't buy the game anymore with the way the current players move and feel either. I need to see real improvements to the core. I just don't like some of the core things with the NCAA game and I'm flat out not enjoying myself much when playing. The game has the same feel and I'm not a fan of that feel. There is no point to continue to pay $60 plus tax for a game that I'm losing interest and faith in. When I played the Madden 12 demo the feel of the players and the passing speed reminded me a lot more of the PS2 versions. Seeing the stat overlays and overall smoothness just made the game feel good. I find that the devs in charge of the NCAA series don't want the game to go back to a PS2 feel for whatever reason. There is no point in me complaining anymore. I've made my points here and that's that. The next step is to simply stop buying the game and either switch to Madden or just other non sports games to fill the void. Maybe NCAA 13 will be a big upgrade.

    I'm done with NCAA 12 and it will be traded in for Madden 12. You won't find me commenting much on the game anymore but you will find me commenting on Madden. I hope that will be fun for me. If not I will trade that in for Uncharted 3 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I'm done buying NCAA on day one. And I won't buy the game anymore with the way the current players move and feel either. I need to see real improvements to the core. I just don't like some of the core things with the NCAA game and I'm flat out not enjoying myself much when playing. The game has the same feel and I'm not a fan of that feel. There is no point to continue to pay $60 plus tax for a game that I'm losing interest and faith in. When I played the Madden 12 demo the feel of the players and the passing speed reminded me a lot more of the PS2 versions. Seeing the stat overlays and overall smoothness just made the game feel good. I find that the devs in charge of the NCAA series don't want the game to go back to a PS2 feel for whatever reason. There is no point in me complaining anymore. I've made my points here and that's that. The next step is to simply stop buying the game and either switch to Madden or just other non sports games to fill the void. Maybe NCAA 13 will be a big upgrade.

    I'm done with NCAA 12 and it will be traded in for Madden 12. You won't find me commenting much on the game anymore but you will find me commenting on Madden. I hope that will be fun for me. If not I will trade that in for Uncharted 3 lol.
    I have high expectations for Madden and I truly believe that this year they will deliver. I have been very jaded by Madden over the years... BUT... the game feels good this year and the enhancement to franchise sound very impressive. I just want to get lost in the immersion and I haven't felt that for any football game since NCAA 07 on PS2. I think that Madden may have the ability to do that this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I'm done buying NCAA on day one. And I won't buy the game anymore with the way the current players move and feel either. I need to see real improvements to the core. I just don't like some of the core things with the NCAA game and I'm flat out not enjoying myself much when playing. The game has the same feel and I'm not a fan of that feel. There is no point to continue to pay $60 plus tax for a game that I'm losing interest and faith in. When I played the Madden 12 demo the feel of the players and the passing speed reminded me a lot more of the PS2 versions. Seeing the stat overlays and overall smoothness just made the game feel good. I find that the devs in charge of the NCAA series don't want the game to go back to a PS2 feel for whatever reason. There is no point in me complaining anymore. I've made my points here and that's that. The next step is to simply stop buying the game and either switch to Madden or just other non sports games to fill the void. Maybe NCAA 13 will be a big upgrade.


    The Madden team definitely ousted the NCAA team this year, simply because of the smoothness and the correct trajectory of the ball.

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    I was looking forward to Madden again this year just off the minor things they did like "shading" and removal of suction. Didn't hurt that I liked the improvements '11 had. Now that I've witnessed the player movement and feel for the game I'm even more excited about it. I'm even going to get that EA pass thing unless I can get the game earlier which I don't know how lol.

    Great points Rudy. I try to tell myself that every year but I still end up getting NCAA the week of.

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    Sure, play Madden if you want to see totally bullshit rocket catches all the fuckin' time.

    I just fuckin' did it with Donald Driver and I've never been able to get a rocket catch to work before and I just did it for the hell of it to see if it would work and lo and behold, it works the first time I try it.

    You people are nuts if you think this game is better than NCAA. Running the stretch play is pointless (unlike NCAA). The trajectory on the ball is not different at all (same throw that gets swatted in NCAA just got swatted in demo). Zone blocking utterly atrocious. All of this on default All-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Sure, play Madden if you want to see totally bullshit rocket catches all the fuckin' time.

    I just fuckin' did it with Donald Driver and I've never been able to get a rocket catch to work before and I just did it for the hell of it to see if it would work and lo and behold, it works the first time I try it.

    You people are nuts if you think this game is better than NCAA. Running the stretch play is pointless (unlike NCAA). The trajectory on the ball is not different at all (same throw that gets swatted in NCAA just got swatted in demo). Zone blocking utterly atrocious. All of this on default All-American.
    It's hardly fair to point out a flaw in one game that exists in the other. It's equally as easy to trigger the rocket catch animation in NCAA and Madden. It's probably more effective in Madden because they actually hang on to the ball, but it's an equally huge flaw in both games and it needs to be addressed in both games.

    Running the stretch play isn't pointless. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It depends on the defense being used. Neither of the teams in the demo are good running teams, so it's hard to judge from that aspect. Regardless, I'd much rather have it that way as opposed to NCAA where stretch and toss plays are usually huge gains because the defense doesn't pursue correctly. The ball trajectory is definitely better. It isn't even close. I've had one instance where a ball was tipped that I thought shouldn't be. Compare that to an issue on NCAA that I can replicate any time I want. The ball trajectory on Madden is dead on.

    Zone blocking, meh, didn't try it. Never use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Sure, play Madden if you want to see totally bullshit rocket catches all the fuckin' time.

    I just fuckin' did it with Donald Driver and I've never been able to get a rocket catch to work before and I just did it for the hell of it to see if it would work and lo and behold, it works the first time I try it.

    You people are nuts if you think this game is better than NCAA. Running the stretch play is pointless (unlike NCAA). The trajectory on the ball is not different at all (same throw that gets swatted in NCAA just got swatted in demo). Zone blocking utterly atrocious. All of this on default All-American.
    I only play in leagues in another community I am involved in that has rules regarding rocket catches or any other glitches, which we also only play on All-Madden. I don't play lobby games or against anyone else that I don't know. So I'm not worried about things of that nature. To be honest I'm not even sure what rocket catching is as I've never been into finding or performing glitches.

    But comparing certain gameplay aspects to certain gameplay aspects in both games, I prefer Madden better

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