Dynasty & Coaching Carousel

[Treadstone6700]

So I tried the Simulate From Web... it's pretty cool, certainly cool from a technical aspect. I don't think it's anything I would ever use unless there was just no other way I could play the game. It works fairly well, definitely some good functionality to it... for example, if you want to move your starting WR to the slot, you just drag his icon in the formation art to the slot and it swaps receivers. As well, you can substitute players at any time. Overall, certainly cool, but I'd rather have my hands on the joysticks.

One other note, even as the OC for the dynasty I'm running, the Simulate from Web allowed me to call both offense & defense. However, if you want to, you can super-sim to "next possession" just like you can on the console.

Would it work well for say....running dynasty progression and sim tests while @ work? Not that anyone would ever do that...

[Dr Death]

Just to clarify, coordinators do have contract goals for wins. In my Idaho DC test, I have a goal of 4 wins and of 8 wins (failing to reach 8 wins won't hurt me though).

Four wins for Idaho??? I would start working on your resume now.

I was thinking the same thing... is that 8 wins spread over the length of the 3 year contract? I tried playing w/ last year because I love their dome... er, barn... whatever you want to call the Kibbie Dome... but that team was maddening!

[georgiafan]

I went through and did the in season progresson for UGA based off teambuilder and then the freshman video that was posted on here. I did this for 28 guys and I'll go back and get the awr and overall for the other guys if I need to. Most of the guys I did are all from the top end of the returning roster. This was a user controlled team with everything simmed and done by the computer.

Speed = 23 players with +1 & 0 for 2 players
Strength = 7 players with +2, 18 players with 1, 3 players with 0
Agility = 26 players with +1 &1 with 0
Accel = 17 players with +2 = 11 players with +1
Break Tackle - I'll post all the skill guys below

* starter

*QB #11
overall +5
awr +6
brk +1
gained 0 lbs

*SS #18
ovr +5
awr +13
gaines 1 lbs

*HB #3
ovr +4
awr +4
btk +5

*WR #12
ovr +5
awr +6
brk +2
gained 2 lbs

*WR #15 (3rd ranked wr on roster)
ovr +10 (yes 10)
awr +13
brk +3
gained 2 lbs

*TE #7
ovr +4
awr +10
gained 1 lbs
brk +2


*CB #19
ovr +6
awr +17

*MLB #45
ovr + 6
awr +16

*DT#99
ovr +6
awr +14

*WR# 17
ovr +5
awr +8
brk +2

HB #30 (3rd string HB)
ovr +4
awr +3
brk +4


OG #72
ovr +5

OG # 64
ovr +4
awr +4

S #36
ovr +7
awr +18

DE #93
ovr +5
awr +5

LB #83
ovr +4
awr +4
brk +2


HB #27 (isiah crowell, 4th best HB per ratings)
ovr +4
awr +3
brk +4


*CB #1 (3rd ranked cb/nickle)
ovr +6
awr +12
gaines 0 lbs

DE #91
ovr +3
awr +3

OT #74
ovr +5
awr +4
gaines 5 lbs

CB #10 (4th ranked cb)
ovr +6
awr +12

DE #85
ovr +5
awr +4

MLB #9
ovr +4
awr +4

FB #46
ovr +4
awr +4
brk +3


OLB #95
ovr +6
awr +14

OT #73
ovr +4
awr +4

DT#56
ovr +6
awr +5

LB #33
ovr +4
awr +4

LB#53
ovr +5
awr +5

[Daywalker86]

If this has been previously covered my bad, but has anyone been able to gauge how likely as a OD/DC you are to get an offer from your alma mater if you are successful? Is it a noticeable difference?

I guess what I'm asking is, will your alma mater go a little out of their way to offer you as compared to other schools?

[jwallace0317]

The one issue a lot of OD's are looking at is whether the carousel logic for getting offers is reasonable, or if it's too easy to to climb the ranks and so a house rule might be needed. For example, if a year 1 coach starts at a 3 star team and immediately takes that team to the NC, how likely is it that he will he get a HC or OC/DC offer from a 5 star team for year 2?

[Cipher 8]

If this has been previously covered my bad, but has anyone been able to gauge how likely as a OD/DC you are to get an offer from your alma mater if you are successful? Is it a noticeable difference?

I guess what I'm asking is, will your alma mater go a little out of their way to offer you as compared to other schools?

I heard the Alma Mater thing is the biggest influence schools will take into consideration among the other things that go into it like playbook style you run but still it comes down to your coach's prestige. Basically it's good to put the school you want to end up at eventually as your Alma Mater but that alone doesn't guarantee you they will hire you, but it may be the deciding factor between you and another candidate that are neck and neck.

The one issue a lot of OD's are looking at is whether the carousel logic for getting offers is reasonable, or if it's too easy to to climb the ranks and so a house rule might be needed. For example, if a year 1 coach starts at a 3 star team and immediately takes that team to the NC, how likely is it that he will he get a HC or OC/DC offer from a 5 star team for year 2?

Well in our OD we have some house rules. If your going from coordinator to coordinator or head coach to head coach you can only move up + difference from your previous job. If your going up from coordinator to head coach though you can only go up + difference from your previous job. Also the school prestige may change so it always goes by what the school was rated when you got there. And obviously no restrictions for taking a lesser job and moving down.

[steelerfan]

Four wins for Idaho??? I would start working on your resume now.

Nah. They have a SOFT schedule, lol. The goal that will bite me is giving up less than 3600 yards passing. Lol.

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[jwallace0317]

A technical question:

In '11, if your team's prestige level increased based on what you accomplished during the season, it would be immediately reflected once the offseason started. So, for example, when you started offseason recruiting, your team would show as (prestige during the season plus one). Does the coaching carousel step fall under the offseason in the same way, so that changes in team prestige up or down would be reflected at the time schools are filling positions? Ex: Florida is a 6 star school in year one, but say for whatever reason they have a horrible season, fire their coach, and would drop to 5 stars for year 2. If you received an offer from Florida after season 1, would it show Florida as a 6 star school or 5 star school? Hope I'm not being confusing.

[gschwendt]

Made it to page 5 then got tired of looking. Simple question: Has anyone simulated say 6 years into the dynasty and checked ratings of players vs. original roster ratings. Here are the things that EA has never gotten right in the past:
1) Original rosters typically lead to a ton of near 99 talent guys before they leave and then there is a drop off.
2) Original rosters will have the best SOPH talent you are ever going to see in your dynasty.
3) Future rosters tend to mess up ratings due to randomization that makes no sense when compared to original rosters. Meaning, the CPU generated class might have the right OVR average rating for its running backs but some of the key ratings for running backs are too skewed when compared to the original roster. Like ACC might be extremely LOW with running backs, like OT like low which is STUPID.
4) Guys like Denard Robinson are IMPOSSIBLE to recruit. Sure you MIGHT be able to get a 5th year senior in the ball park of his ratings, but to get another QB rated the same as him in his JR year = IMPOSSIBLE
5) Teams are filling out rosters and depth charts properly.
6) Teams are recruiting to their team's philosophies. Option teams are recruiting FAST QBs.

I think that is enough to ask for now. Thanks

Still working through some sims to get a better feel for things. There are a few things I'm not confident in but want to discuss those with the devs. That said, I'll answer what I am confident in.

1) In 2016, there's probably too many 99 players. I don't have a specific count but in the default roster there is one. There were at least 4-5 as I went through them last night. I'm going to keep an eye on it and pass notes onto the devs as necessary.
2) Can't really compare since there isn't a way to sort by year.
3) RBs, WRs, etc. have appropriate ACC & AGI. RBs have potential to have both good ACC & AGI whereas WRs have potential for good ACC but less likely for good AGI. We made sure this was one of the notes we gave the devs at a community event dedicated to Dynasty. It seems considerably better.
4) Not certain on this either way... there are some speed guys with AGI & ACC but not sure if you'll have guys like Robinson early in their career or not.
5) Didn't really look at this one yet
6) I'm still looking at this one... it's a bit harder with Coaching Carousel since their philosophies can change every season.

I'm still doing some sims and plan to update some stuff once I get to 2021 (ten complete seasons). I have some notes that I'll pass along to the devs.

[gschwendt]

A technical question:

In '11, if your team's prestige level increased based on what you accomplished during the season, it would be immediately reflected once the offseason started. So, for example, when you started offseason recruiting, your team would show as (prestige during the season plus one). Does the coaching carousel step fall under the offseason in the same way, so that changes in team prestige up or down would be reflected at the time schools are filling positions? Ex: Florida is a 6 star school in year one, but say for whatever reason they have a horrible season, fire their coach, and would drop to 5 stars for year 2. If you received an offer from Florida after season 1, would it show Florida as a 6 star school or 5 star school? Hope I'm not being confusing.

If I understand what you're asking, Coaching Carousel is the first step of the offseason and takes place after Bowl Games and the season is finalized.

[gschwendt]

First time I went looking for one but... I found a recruit with the last name Gschwend. Just wanted to confirm that yes, those last names submitted a couple of years ago for audio recording are now in the recruit & coach name database.

[jwallace0317]

If I understand what you're asking, Coaching Carousel is the first step of the offseason and takes place after Bowl Games and the season is finalized.

Thanks, a "one star up" rule will be easy to use then. It would seem like such a rule wouldn't even be needed, because a user coach's prestige grade would need at least a couple seasons of improvement to attract a 5 or 6 star HC job, at least I would think.

[JBHuskers]

First time I went looking for one but... I found a recruit with the last name Gschwend. Just wanted to confirm that yes, those last names submitted a couple of years ago for audio recording are now in the recruit & coach name database.

What position was he?

[gschwendt]

What position was he?

WR from Oregon.

[ShowTyme]

Anything on the player transfers in dynasty mode yet?

[mrh61988]

Anything on the player transfers in dynasty mode yet?

I think I read somewhere that player transfers didn't make it into the game.

[ShowTyme]

I read somewhere that player transfers didn't make it into the game.

I highly doubt that. Player transfers have been in NCAA football games since the end of time. That would make absolutely no sense for them to take it out considering they have a CC now. Hopefully someone can clarify that. You have a link to where you read that at?

[412Juice716]

Transfers were in last year, no reason they wouldn't be again this year

[gschwendt]

Anything on the player transfers in dynasty mode yet?

What specifically about player transfers?

I think I read somewhere that player transfers didn't make it into the game.

I highly doubt that. Player transfers have been in NCAA football games since the end of time. That would make absolutely no sense for them to take it out considering they have a CC now. Hopefully someone can clarify that. You have a link to where you read that at?

I think there's confusion here. What mrh61988 is referring to (whether he knows it or not) is Road to Glory. Player transfers are still in dynasty.

[mrh61988]

I think there's confusion here. What mrh61988 is referring to (whether he knows it or not) is Road to Glory. Player transfers are still in dynasty.

Ok yea, I knew I read it somewhere.