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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    Some guy was speculating that Arkansas (due to Jerry Jones) will push to join the Big 12 (-2) along with possibly Houston. Many have said that Arkansas wouldn't leave the SEC due to the amount of money it receives ($17 million per year) but they miss not having a rival since their move to the SEC. The same guy then felt WVU would be a perfect replacement for Arkansas.
    I would LOVE for WVU to be a part of the SEC. We'd probably get trounced for a few seasons, but we'd show our worth sooner or later.

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    It's a Bleacher Report article (i.e. totally opinion), but here it is: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...neers-big-east
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    All this conference shuffling makes me wish EA would allow us to make truly custom conferences. How cool would it be to have complete control over the number of teams in a conference (or the NCAA for that matter), division configuration, scheduling, postseason affiliations (playoffs, anyone?)?

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    I think Adam Thompson of EA said they are looking into this for next year. He was estimating it would cost about 800 hours to implement full custom conferences. The nightmarish thing would be the scheduling - especially if you want to preserve rivalry games. For comparison sake I thought they estimated formation subs would cost them about 250-300 hours to put in the game which is why they delayed putting them in the game. I'm still waiting for in game saves and multiple camera angles.

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    Not with Bill Stew as coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I think Adam Thompson of EA said they are looking into this for next year. He was estimating it would cost about 800 hours to implement full custom conferences. The nightmarish thing would be the scheduling - especially if you want to preserve rivalry games. For comparison sake I thought they estimated formation subs would cost them about 250-300 hours to put in the game which is why they delayed putting them in the game. I'm still waiting for in game saves and multiple camera angles.
    I guess I won't get my hopes up then. It took what, five years for them to reintroduce formation subs? Does anyone know how big the NCAA dev team is? 800 hours sounds like a lot, but if there were 10 people working on it, that's two weeks. Scheduling would definitely be a challenge, but I can think of a couple ways to handle that. One option would be to have one or more preset scheduling templates for a range of conference sizes. The templates themselves could be modeled after the scheduling logic used by the existing conferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    Not with Bill Stew as coach.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Why?
    What I was alluding to was achieving a high level of success in the SEC. I don't think he's a good coach and thus wouldn't elevate WVU to be a contender now or later in the SEC.
    To play in the SEC, WVU would need to spend money on a coach and be committed to spending big money on recruiting and program upgrades (facilities, etc.).
    http://blog.al.com/press-register-sp...iting_tam.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    What I was alluding to was achieving a high level of success in the SEC. I don't think he's a good coach and thus wouldn't elevate WVU to be a contender now or later in the SEC.
    To play in the SEC, WVU would need to spend money on a coach and be committed to spending big money on recruiting and program upgrades (facilities, etc.).
    http://blog.al.com/press-register-sp...iting_tam.html
    There's no need for upgraded facilities. They are already top 10 or so in facilities after spending more than $85 million over the past 20 years.

    While yes, the money spent on recruiting would probably have to increase, we've done a very good job getting the recruits we like in Florida, Virginia, New York and such with the budget we have.

    As for coaching, that remains to be seen as well. Trying to convert a team that has been spread/zone blocking for so long into a power running pro style offense takes time.

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    Pac-10 Commish was on ESPN Radio today as I was listening on my drive home from work. Couple of interesting things to note.

    • When he listed the reasons for expansion, he said academics first (cuz it's always about the academics).
    • Colorado was in the Pac 10's plans regardless of 12 or 16 teams.
    • Sounds like they are content on staying at 12 and not making the super conference.


    Looks like they were going to go 16 if Texas and their sluts came along...but Baylor would have been left out in the cold along with Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State. He said things are going to slow down now, but with the landscape changing, moving to 12 had to be quick.

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    Suprised he didn't say conference championship game and all the money that brings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    Suprised he didn't say conference championship game and all the money that brings.
    Hah yeah, they're still "formalizing a plan" for that.

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    Conference Championship would be great for the PAC (I think they should just drop the number and call it the PAC). Anyways, at 12 teams, a conference championship is almost a necessity. Just thinking of basketball too, how great a conference tourney has been to the league. A conference title game would be REALLY great for football. Only question? Where would you play it? Would the Rose Bowl add another game? Or would the Coliseum make a better Championship venue? Standford and it's new stadium might be in the running as well. I can't see Berkley, or anything outside of California, based on size and mid location.

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    I think the PAC-10 will go to PAC. I'd also expect the Big Ten and Big XII to create names that don't have numbers in them. At least, that's my hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I think the PAC-10 will go to PAC. I'd also expect the Big Ten and Big XII to create names that don't have numbers in them. At least, that's my hope.
    CDJ said, the (former) Big XII should just go back to the Southwestern Conference. I kinda figured a fitting name for the (former) Big Ten would be the North Central Conference. You have this name brand recognition with Big Ten, but it just sound sillier the more you expand from ten. The North Twelve, maybe? Who knows LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    CDJ said, the (former) Big XII should just go back to the Southwestern Conference. I kinda figured a fitting name for the (former) Big Ten would be the North Central Conference. You have this name brand recognition with Big Ten, but it just sound sillier the more you expand from ten. The North Twelve, maybe? Who knows LOL.
    Hah The North Twelve's initials are TNT

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    The Big 12 should just go to the Longhorn Conf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Pac-10 Commish was on ESPN Radio today as I was listening on my drive home from work. Couple of interesting things to note.

    • When he listed the reasons for expansion, he said academics first (cuz it's always about the academics).
    • Colorado was in the Pac 10's plans regardless of 12 or 16 teams.
    • Sounds like they are content on staying at 12 and not making the super conference.


    Looks like they were going to go 16 if Texas and their sluts came along...but Baylor would have been left out in the cold along with Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State. He said things are going to slow down now, but with the landscape changing, moving to 12 had to be quick.
    I actually am not surprised at the academic part. Since Nebraska joined the Big 10, I never knew how much money in grants some of these schools got. Dang! :eek:
    I'm curious to know how many of the Big 10 teams currently run in the black for their athletic teams?

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    From my understanding today, all of them. I was reading an article that stated that because of the income from the Big Ten Network, the entire conference is actually in the black ... at least so far as football. I can't recall for sure if they were in the black for all sports, or just the moneymaker of football.

    That, of course, is a reference to the fact that some schools actually lose money on football in the long run.
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    What article was that? Sounds like an interesting read.

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