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    Now there's a new rumor out of WMKG TV in Orlando:

    Next expansion targets are Memphis and UCF to the Big East.


    When is all this going to end? I can't keep up.
    Last edited by HWill; 06-16-2010 at 11:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HWill View Post
    Now there's a new rumor out of WMKG TV in Orlando:

    Next expansion targets are Memphis and UCF to the Big East.


    When is all this going to end? I can't keep up.
    FedEx CEO Fred Smith offered $100 Million over 10 years to any BCS conference that would take Memphis
    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...y-into-the-bcs

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    FedEx CEO Fred Smith offered $100 Million over 10 years to any BCS conference that would take Memphis
    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...y-into-the-bcs
    I heard that on the radio last night very weird. I've always thought all along Memphis to the Big East would be a great fit, especially for basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    And their other weakness (season ending 'early,' no CCG) is also gone now - and depending on schedule, the Big 12 may have that issue as well.
    Bingo. Other than UT and OU, I don't see how the Big12 is better off.

    The B10 is for national recognition, but I think Big12 isn't.

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    Big XII is going to have the same thing happen that the Big 10 had for years....if they have a national title contender, they're going to sit damn near 60 days before playing their championship or BCS bowl game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    FedEx CEO Fred Smith offered $100 Million over 10 years to any BCS conference that would take Memphis
    http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...y-into-the-bcs
    COME ON DOWN Memphis, YOU'RE IN THE BIG EAST!

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    Pretty good post from a Penn Stater about the whole situation:

    Thank you for declining any overtures by the BigTen to join its conference. Thank you for deciding that joining the BigTen wasn’t in your best interests. Because it wasn’t until recently that I, a fan of Penn State and the BigTen, only recently realized that your joining probably wasn’t in OUR best interests. You’ve got a great intercollegiate athletics program, that’s for sure. And your academics are certainly on par with the best public colleges in the country. You enjoy a large in-state population and a large and devoted fan base. Many conferences would line up to sign up the Longhorns. The Pac10 did and was willing to also take your unremarkable in-state siblings to secure your allegiance. The BigTen considered a lesser conference schedule for you to facilitate retaining your traditional rivalry games. You certain are the belle of the ball. But as is often the case, the belle of the ball - - the pretty girl who has the world at her feet - - is also a conniving, self-centered, high-maintenance bitch.

    These are not the words of a jilted courter of your affections. These are the words of someone who has come to understand the meaning of the word conference. An organization of EQUALS with common interests and whose decisions are guided to benefitting the value of the conference brand over the individual member brand. Conference members work together and share equally that which is produced by the group. To you, a conference is merely a recurring set of athletics opponents that can be exploited to serve your interests over that of the collective group. Your interest in preserving the BigXII was hardly a heroic or magnanimous gesture to save those less prestigious programs that would suddenly find themselves without a home. No, your interests in saving the conference were to leverage your marquee value to grab an even larger slice of the conference revenue pie.

    You are King of the BigXII conference and you sit in a higher, padded chair at the head of a long conference table while your subjects sit on foot stools at the far end. The BigTen conference table is a round table, with neither a head nor foot and all chairs are of equal height and comfort. You would have found it uncomfortable at our table even as you elbowed for more space or a better view. And we would have found your company unbearable once we saw past your fair looks. A sincere “thank you” is owed to you and a word of caution is offered. Don’t be surprised if one day, your subjects storm the castle with torches and barbeque spits - - as slaughtered Longhorn would make a fine feast.

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    Zing.

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    Well now the Utes are the 12th team in the Pac-10.

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    I wonder if Boise St is pissed about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    I wonder if Boise St is pissed about that.
    I can't imagine they're too upset, for two reasons: 1) they had to know Utah to the Pac-10 was Plan B if Texas fell through, and 2) even without Utah, the Mountain West is still a huge upgrade over the WAC.

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    2) even without Utah, the Mountain West is still a huge upgrade over the WAC.
    Thing being is they needed Utah in the Mountain West to further the case for an automatic BCS bid, which is one reason to bolt from the WAC to the MWC. With Utah in it, the MWC would have had 4 teams that all have had strong, consistent seasons for the past few years. Easier to get that bid with 4 strong teams rather than 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    Thing being is they needed Utah in the Mountain West to further the case for an automatic BCS bid, which is one reason to bolt from the WAC to the MWC. With Utah in it, the MWC would have had 4 teams that all have had strong, consistent seasons for the past few years. Easier to get that bid with 4 strong teams rather than 3.
    Oh definitely. The chances of the MWC getting an auto BCS bid just went down dramatically. I'm just guessing that Boise State feels like they've upgraded conferences either way.

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    I didn't know this, so I must share. Regarding the Big Ten:
    The conference’s official name throughout this period remained the Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives. It did not formally adopt the name Big Ten until 1987, when it was incorporated as a not-for-profit corporation. In 1990, the Big Ten universities voted to expand the conference to 11 teams, and extended an invitation to Penn State, which it accepted. When Penn State joined in 1990, it was decided that the conference would continue to be called the Big Ten, but its logo was modified to reflect the change; the number 11 is disguised in the white areas of the traditionally blue "Big Ten" lettering.
    We were known by practically everyone as the Big Ten, but not officially called that until 1987. Wow.
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    That is weird. It's going to be hard to hide the number 12 in the conference logo though.

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    Yeah, I'm pretty much hoping against hope that we change our name this time around. If the Big Ten and Big Twelve keep their names, I may go insane.
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    Hopefully they don't flip their names either, that will confuse me forever.

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    I don't think they will, specifically for that reason. Nobody in the Big XII would want their trademark confused, by anyone, with the Big Ten. And vice versa.

    I would expect that you will see both of them change to non-numeric names. With all the uncertainty, it's silly to call yourself the Big Ten or Big Twelve now. SEC, ACC, Big East have it easy comparatively.
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    Some guy was speculating that Arkansas (due to Jerry Jones) will push to join the Big 12 (-2) along with possibly Houston. Many have said that Arkansas wouldn't leave the SEC due to the amount of money it receives ($17 million per year) but they miss not having a rival since their move to the SEC. The same guy then felt WVU would be a perfect replacement for Arkansas.

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