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    I was reading some comments on an article and this was posted pretty good ( and very true) read....

    It was created end of October so this could have already been posted.


    Over the weekend, Omaha World-Herald sportswriter Tom Shatel called Nebraska’s loss to Minnesota “unthinkable.”

    Now I get it.

    For years, I’ve been trying to figure out where the sense of entitlement that Nebraska football fans carry around comes from. I thought I had it pinpointed to history and a general ignorant understanding of the same. I guess I was only half right.

    In addition to Nebraska’s winning history creating certain expectations for fans, the people who cover the Cornhuskers are just as much to blame. Maybe they don’t realize they are doing it, but little things like the word Shatel used to describe Nebraska’s loss feed an unreasonable way of thinking that makes losses to programs like Minnesota unthinkable.

    Why is it unthinkable for one college football team to lose to another college football team, especially given the fact that the two have similar geography, a similar recruiting base and the exact same number of scholarships? Why it is unthinkable that programs who turnover 25 percent of their personnel every year might yield different results from year to year. Why is it unthinkable that these programs made up of 18-22 year old kids might perform differently from week to week?

    It’s not unthinkable. And this is why Tom Shatel’s choice of words was ridiculous.

    College football fans have this irrational thought process that says “if it happened before, it should always happen.” Nebraska football fans could be the poster boys for this school of thought. Again, a school of thought fed to them by the media who produces all content not on the actual field of play from which the fans form their opinions.

    On Friday, a local talk radio show was asking callers to call in and give their predictions for the Minnesota game. It was a Husker fan circle-jerk, with high fives all around as caller after caller predicted a double-digit win for Nebraska. Then one caller chimes in with what was apparently an “unthinkable” prediction. He said the Huskers would win by less than a touchdown.

    You know that record-scratching sound in movies where when someone who doesn’t belong in a room or a bar walks in and everything screeches to a halt? That’s pretty much what happened on that radio show. One of the show’s hosts immediately replied “YOU THINK IT’LL BE THAT CLOSE?” I like to picture him almost falling out of his chair in the studio, papers flying everywhere. Imagine if the caller had predicted a Minnesota win. Would the station have spontaneously combusted?

    When the Nebraska media isn’t busy trying to convince the fans what to think, they are busy asking the fans to think about questions that either don’t matter or can’t be answered. Jon Nyatawa, another Omaha World-Herald writer, published a piece after the game asking fans questions like “Nebraska lost the line-of-scrimmage battle to Minnesota. Is the lack of physicality a sign of things to come?” I don’t know Jon, but I know it’s a good indication of how things are right now.

    Nyatawa also asked “How does NU rebound mentally? The road to a potential title game berth gets only more difficult from here.” Win lose or draw, the road to a title game was always going to be tougher after the Minnesota game. Again, the media trying to convince fans just how good Nebraska is or is supposed to be. Rather than look at the loss as a gauge of the team’s shortcomings and overall talent level, the media focuses on it being an unexpected hurdle on the way to a place they are good enough to get to. Maybe they aren’t good enough to get there? Maybe they couldn’t beat a team that Iowa beat a couple of weeks ago on the same field.

    *GASP* MAYBE NEBRASKA IS NOT AS GOOD AS IOWA!

    No, no, no. That just can’t be. This is Nebraska. Nebraska’s standard is national titles in football (five in over 123 years). We are supposed to rise to the top of this Big Ten conference every year, just like we did in the Big Eight and kinda did in the Big 12. We are better than Iowa…because…because…well, we just are.

    Actually, probably not. From what I’ve seen in terms of offense, defense, coaching and just flat out being prepared to compete, Iowa is the better team in 2013. That’ll all sort itself out on the field later.

    What doesn’t appear to be anywhere near sorted out is this illogical belief in a football team — a belief that goes well beyond being die-hard fans, blasts past the realm of being a homer and settles right into borderline religious extremism. This belief is such that a minimal amount of historical championship success has dwarfed and eclipsed what it means to be a winning football program (which Nebraska is). This belief has Nebraska fans ignoring and blowing off nine and ten win seasons because the team hasn’t won a conference title recently. This belief has a current head coach on the hot seat — a coach with a higher winning percentage than the overall winning percentage of the program throughout its history.

    That belief is almost the textbook definition of “sense of entitlement.” You want more specific examples? Check out some of these responses to a question asked on Facebook by another local talk radio show. The question was “So what is your immediate reaction to today’s game?” Now, naturally you are going to get some heated, knee-jerk reactions, but some of the responses were very telling of a deeper problem.

    Sara says “All I can say is that I really wanted Bo to succeed and I’ve been supportive of him, but after this I’m done. This isn’t working. Time for a new coaching staff.”

    WOW. What isn’t working? Your team is 5-2. Your current head coach has won 71 percent of the games he’s coached. Tom Osborne won just over 83 percent. Basically, Bo wins seven of every ten. Tom won 8 of every ten. Does every coach need to be Tom Osborne?

    Tom (not Osborne) says “Complete regime change monday morning. Let the world know we do not tolerate this in the land of the husker!”

    Good idea, Tom. Let’s let the world know that we don’t accept coaches who win 70 percent of their games. Let’s let every head coach out there know that if you want this job, 70 percent is not good enough in a place where our team has won…70 percent of its games historically. Wait a second…

    And perhaps my favorite comment, coming from a fellow named Matt. Matt says “Angry, frustrated and depressed. I miss the Nebraska football I grew up watching. I no longer look forward to Saturday’s in the Fall.”

    So hold on there, Matt. I’m gonna assume you grew up watching Nebraska during the 1994, 1995 and 1997 championship run. So basically what you are saying is that if your college football team doesn’t win all of its games and the national title, you want to take your ball and go home because this isn’t fun anymore. Hmm…there is a word for that…hang on, it’ll come to me. Is it ENTITLED???

    What happens now is we sit back and watch a fanbase cannibalize itself in a civil war over what the Nebraska program was, is and shall become. Steven M. Sipple, columnist for the Lincoln Journal Star, seems to have fired the first shot in the latest battle. He wrote an article following the loss to Minnesota with the title “Husker Fans Should Expect More From Pelini’s Program.”

    Of course they should, Steve. Why not. After all, you are telling them they should, right?

    Gimme a break. There are 123 teams in FBS Football. All of them, unless they are on sanctions, have the same scholarship limit. All of them play on TV. All of them are essentially playing for the same prize. It is unreasonable for any fan or group of fans, regardless of the history of a program, to expect their college football team to win ten and eleven games every single year while competing for conference and national titles annually. If and when it happens, GREAT! Enjoy it. But as soon as you make that the standard, you set yourself, your fellow fans and your team up for a huge letdown every time, even if it’s only 3 out of 10, you don’t come out with a win.

    That is where Nebraska football is right now. A group of college kids is expected to perform at the same level that a bunch of guys did years ago, regardless of the fact that the playing field and rules have changed. Those expectations come from an unreasonable and entitled fanbase, fed those ideals over time by an unreasonable and entitled local media.

    I suppose expecting that to change anytime soon would be unthinkable.


    http://www.knowitallfootball.com/201...history-media/

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    Ouch!

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    Folks in Tallahassee hid this for awhile now. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/1...ck-jameis.html
    Hope he did not do this, seems like a good kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCClassof93 View Post
    Folks in Tallahassee hid this for awhile now. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/1...ck-jameis.html
    Hope he did not do this, seems like a good kid.
    he's 6'4"...The guy they are looking for is 5'9" to 11". The police haven't even talked to JW about anything officially speaking

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    Winston is listed as 6-4 and 235 pounds.
    Wow, didn't realize he was that big.

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    Sadly folks were against changing the street name because "it would confuse people"... ignoring the fact that the only reason Jonesboro is something more than another tiny speck in the Delta is because of ASU.


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    The FCS tournament brackets were announced today.

    24 teams, 11 teams earning an automatic bid, top 8 national seeds get a 1st round bye and host a second round game, the remaining teams chosen by selection committee.

    North Dakota State is trying to become the first team since Appalachian State (2005-07) and only the second team in FCS history, to win three straight national championships.

    On a general note, 15 FCS teams have beaten a FBS team (12 non-reclassifying) this year. Notable wins included: Towson over UConn, North Dakota State over Kansas State, Eastern Washington over #25 Oregon State, McNeese State over USF, Northern Iowa over Iowa State and Georgia Southern over Florida.


    Top 8 seeds:

    (1) North Dakota State (11-0, two time defending champions)
    (2) Eastern Illinois (11-1)
    (3) Eastern Washington (10-2, 2010 FCS champion)
    (4) SE Louisiana (10-2, first FCS playoff appearance)
    (5) Maine (10-2)
    (6) McNeese State (10-2)
    (7) Towson (10-2)
    (8) Montana (10-2, won FCS titles in 1995 and 2001)


    First Round - Saturday, November 30th

    South Carolina State vs. Furman (Southern Conference champs) - 1pm ET (winner plays #1 North Dakota State on 12/7)

    Coastal Carolina (Big South champs) vs. Bethune-Cookman (MEAC champs) - 1pm ET (winner plays #8 Montana on 12/7) - This is a first round rematch from last year's playoffs

    New Hampshire vs. Lafayette (Patriot League champs, 5-6, first team to ever make field with a losing record) - 12pm ET (winner plays #5 Maine on 12/7)

    Sam Houston State (has lost national title game previous two seasons to NDSU) vs. Southern Utah (making first ever FCS playoff appearance) - 3pm ET (winner plays #4 SE Louisiana on 12/7)

    Northern Arizona vs. South Dakota State - 8pm ET (winner plays #3 Eastern Washington on 12/7)

    Jacksonville State vs. Samford - 8pm ET (winner plays #6 McNeese State on 12/7)

    Fordham vs. Sacred Heart (Northeast Conference champs, making first ever FCS appearance - 1pm ET (winner plays #7 Towson on 12/7)

    Butler (Pioneer League champs, PL's first year with automatic bid) vs. Tennessee State - 1pm ET (winner plays #2 Eastern Illinois on 12/7)


    Conferences with multiple bids:

    Big Sky - 4 (AQ - Eastern Washington)
    Colonial - 3 (AQ - Maine)
    Ohio Valley - 3 (AQ - Eastern Illinois)
    Southland - 3 (AQ - SE Louisiana)
    MEAC - 2 (AQ - Bethune-Cookman
    Missouri Valley - 2 (AQ - North Dakota State)
    Patriot - 2 (AQ - Lafayette)
    Southern - 2 (AQ - Furman)


    Last Four In:

    Sam Houston State
    Samford
    Jacksonville State
    South Carolina State


    First Three Out:

    Chattanooga
    William & Mary
    Lehigh
    Last edited by SmoothPancakes; 11-24-2013 at 08:31 PM.

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    Here's a story for Bill. Just heard that the Southern Miss coach bought all of his seniors suits to help them be more prepared for job interviews after college. Very cool gesture.
    The dude abides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Here's a story for Bill. Just heard that the Southern Miss coach bought all of his seniors suits to help them be more prepared for job interviews after college. Very cool gesture.
    Nice!

    NCAA Sanctions coming. Re: Illegal Benefits.

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    Random College Football Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Here's a story for Bill. Just heard that the Southern Miss coach bought all of his seniors suits to help them be more prepared for job interviews after college. Very cool gesture.
    I've known for a few days but I'm glad the story has finally reached the mainstream.

    There's a reason alum hated last year's coach and love this one, despite not being too successful himself. The last coach was a dick who couldn't lead, motivate, coach, and was a finger pointer. Coach Monken is accountable, responsible, is a positive leader, and shows character. People quit on coach Ellis. People will run through walls for coach Monken.
    Last edited by souljahbill; 12-11-2013 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    Nice!

    NCAA Sanctions coming. Re: Illegal Benefits.
    They've already exhausted their eligibility, so no sanctions
    The dude abides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    They've already exhausted their eligibility, so no sanctions
    I understand.

    However, it's a slippery slope. Why not buy every outgoing player a car to drive to their job interview? Wonder if that would help recruiting.

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    Only if the car is under the cash value limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    I've known for a few days but I'm glad the story has finally reached the mainstream.

    There's a reason alum hated last year's coach and love this one, despite not being too successful himself. The last coach was a dick who couldn't lead, motivate, coach, and was a finger pointer. Coach Monken is accountable, responsible, is a positive leader, and shows character. People quit on coach Ellis. People will run through walls for coach Monken.
    another year like this one and he'll have to be loved at another school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    another year like this one and he'll have to be loved at another school.
    We'll be better next year. I'm not even concerned about it.

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    Jameis haters need to change their secret ballots now !


    http://www.stiffarmtrophy.com/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/jamei...dslide-2013-12

    We've now tracked down 112 ballots, featuring a total of 274 votes.


    We're now ready to make the formal call -- the Trophy is going to Jameis Winston.


    OK, OK, we're the very last ones to the party. But we've got our mathematical process, and we're going to stick with it. (That's what you pay us for, right? Oh wait...) This is the fewest number of ballots that we've ever had before making our call on the winner.

    Winston is going to get approximately 87% of the maximum possible points. (That's lower than our numbers suggest, but our numbers typically overstate the winner's count by 3-5%.) That'll place him in the top echelon of biggest winners of all time -- behind Reggie Bush at 91.77% and Troy Smith at 91.63%, but ahead of Ricky Williams at 85.23%. (No, my friends, OJ Simpson is not the biggest winner ever -- there were just 1200 voters that year.)

    We are not, however, prepared to make any sort of formal call as to the order of finish of the rest of the finalists. They are very tightly clustered together. Not much change from yesterday: Tre Mason is in second, Jordan Lynch and AJ McCarron are tied up for third. Andre Williams has slipped a bit into a solid fourth and Johnny Manziel has edged up slightly.

    Ballots are coming in very slowly, given the pressure from the Heisman Trust on the voters.


    We'll continue to track votes - and hope to get closer to 150 by week's end. Keep those tips rolling in!

    For the twelfth year in a row, we're going to attempt to project the outcome of the greatest individual award in sports, the Heisman Trophy. So far, we've been right eleven out of eleven years.

    But to do this, we need your help. If you read/see/hear someone identify themselves as an official voter (with or without their vote), post a comment on our voter tips line or send us a note on Twitter (@stiffarmtrophy). If possible, provide a link (or at least tell us where you saw/heard/read it.)

    Our latest projection

    Last updated: 12/12/2013 5:52 a.m. Pacific. 112 ballots, 274 votes.

    name first second third ballots points Projected Proj%
    J Winston 83 5 1 89 260 2570 92.3%
    T Mason 7 18 14 39 71 627 22.5%
    J Lynch 5 11 15 31 52 470 16.9%
    AJ McCarron 4 14 11 29 51 457 16.4%
    A Williams 3 11 10 24 41 383 13.8%
    J Manziel 0 8 10 18 26 219 7.9%



    B Petty 0 4 6 10 14 133 4.8%
    D Carr 1 3 3 7 12 127 4.6%
    K Carey 0 1 3 4 5 57 2.0%
    B Miller 0 1 4 5 6 48 1.7%
    T Bridgewater 0 0 5 5 5 46 1.7%
    M Mariota 0 1 1 2 3 27 1.0%
    B Sankey 0 1 0 1 2 24 0.9%
    C Hyde 0 1 0 1 2 19 0.7%
    S Skov 0 0 2 2 2 18 0.6%
    A Donald 0 0 2 2 2 16 0.6%
    K Burke 0 1 0 1 2 14 0.5%
    N Marshall 0 1 0 1 2 14 0.5%
    R Hageman 0 0 1 1 1 10 0.4%
    J Matthews 0 0 1 1 1 9 0.3%
    A Robinson 0 0 1 1 1 7 0.3%




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    Fucking cheese man real world football is not madden lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy View Post
    Fucking cheese man real world football is not madden lol.
    works for Baylor apparently

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