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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    This. There is NO WAY in hell I would touch NCAA or Madden in the first release (even second release, maybe longer) on the PS4/720, after the crap that was the first couple games this generation. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
    Well considering the architecture of the PS4 is a lot easier to work with, we may be surprised with how the product turns out. Not holding my breath after the first titles of Gen3, but not going to completely write it off either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Well considering the architecture of the PS4 is a lot easier to work with, we may be surprised with how the product turns out. Not holding my breath after the first titles of Gen3, but not going to completely write it off either.
    The 360 was praised for it's ease of development, didn't seem to help NCAA or Madden. Honestly, my expectations are at an all time low, so it's not going to bum me out if it's bad. If you ask me what my biggest disappointment was the generation, it's easily football games. I didn't have a single damn one that I can say I actually enjoyed.

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    That will ease the fears of those jumping all over the $99 placeholder
    It shouldn't have even been needed. Amazon came right out and said "Your first #PS4 title is now up for pre-order. #Watch_Dogs. Pricing & release date are placeholders. More info soon."

    I hope they release this thing right around Black Friday. I absolutely CAN NOT WAIT for the fighting videos on YT. I'll order mine on Amazon the second it goes up...no way in hell I'm going anywhere in public to pick it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    This. There is NO WAY in hell I would touch NCAA or Madden in the first release (even second release, maybe longer) on the PS4/720, after the crap that was the first couple games this generation. And I'm sure I'm not the only one.
    1000% agree. EA has generally been horrible in their transition to new consoles and their football games this gen take the cake. They ruined the NBA Live series when they transitioned to the PS2 and Live never recovered until 2K stole the market. I remember how bad NHL was in its first year on the PS2. Madden/NCAA was actually pretty decent on the PS2 right away but terrible on the PS3 conversion.

    I hope they learned their lesson and don't come out with feature-less games on the PS4 that are nothing more than eye candy with lousy gameplay. I will not trust EA to get it right at the beginning.

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    lmfao I really do NOT get why the big deal is being made about what the console looks like:

    the company was more concerned with what comes out of the box, not what it looks like. I can promise you that it will be plastic, it won't be triangle shaped or round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    lmfao I really do NOT get why the big deal is being made about what the console looks like:
    I think that was more MS fanboys looking for some point to stick to and rail the presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    I think that was more MS fanboys looking for some point to stick to and rail the presentation.
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    I'm more excited about the ps4 after watching 50% of the video or so. It should be a fun great system. i just hope that the football games really improve next year. MLB the show will be awesome next season too. I just better start saving my pennies for this bad boy of the ps4 now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    I think that was more MS fanboys looking for some point to stick to and rail the presentation.
    Fan boys of anything console are just annoying as hell to me. I can't even read the comments section on sites like N4G anymore.

    I personally was a little peeved they didn't show the thing, but it's certainly not a major deal. The last I checked, you buy a console to play games, not to have a nice looking box displayed beneath your TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    Fan boys of anything console are just annoying as hell to me. I can't even read the comments section on sites like N4G anymore.

    I personally was a little peeved they didn't show the thing, but it's certainly not a major deal. The last I checked, you buy a console to play games, not to have a nice looking box displayed beneath your TV.

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    I fully expect that we won't see EA Sports titles until the year 2014, maybe 15, so NCAA 15/16, Madden 15/16, FIFA 15/16 etc. & I'm just fine with that actually. Madden 06, Madden 07, NCAA 07/08 were the worst versions of those titles I've ever played. Graphically, gameplay wise, adjustment features etc., I don't understand how anybody enjoyed those games. To me, it all depends if devs will start from scratch again, or will they port the game over, then make changes graphically, and engine wise. If they do that, then there's a chance the games will be fairly decent initially. I have more faith that FIFA 15 on the PS4 will be good over Madden & NCAA being good.

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    I bet like the 360 launch, you'll see a Madden 14 but not NCAA14. That said, I imagine they learned from their lesson on the last console transition so rather than start from scratch, they'll go the route that 2K & The Show went... the first version won't be astronomically better but it will be better than it's previous-gen counterpart. Then they'll continue to improve from year to year.

    So for NCAA15, not all of the stadiums will be improved but the player models will be improved, sidelines will be interactive (or at least improved), rosters expanded, etc. That's 100% a guess.

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    The key thing is the graphics are not a gigantic overhaul, but the amount you can do is what has astronomically increased. To me, that seems like good news when moving over to the PS4 and the next XBOX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    The key thing is the graphics are not a gigantic overhaul, but the amount you can do is what has astronomically increased. To me, that seems like good news when moving over to the PS4 and the next XBOX.
    Well, depending on the graphics card that they go with in the PS4, it could be either a HUGE leap in graphical ability or it could be a semi-large leap in graphical ability. Along with 8 gigs of RAM, it's a pretty big jump in technological horsepower compared to the PS3's generation leading tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    I bet like the 360 launch, you'll see a Madden 14 but not NCAA14. That said, I imagine they learned from their lesson on the last console transition so rather than start from scratch, they'll go the route that 2K & The Show went... the first version won't be astronomically better but it will be better than it's previous-gen counterpart. Then they'll continue to improve from year to year.

    So for NCAA15, not all of the stadiums will be improved but the player models will be improved, sidelines will be interactive (or at least improved), rosters expanded, etc. That's 100% a guess.
    And if we are really lucky, by NCAA 18 they will have the chain gang in. Someone at EA needs to hire the guy who was in charge of interactive sidelines for APF 2k8.

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    The PS4 will have more horsepower but what will EA do with it? They had plenty of horsepower in the current gen and yet the DL play is still worse than 2K4 on the PS2. Truly EA's football games problems are 95% programmer issues and not hardware problems. They don't know how to code things to work right. The cpu QB AI is still terrible. CPU offenses are dumb in both games, especially NCAA where they do a very poor job of running the non pro-style offenses. This past Madden game saw some atrocious late game AI management I have ever seen, probably worse than any football game produced on a PS2. That has NOTHING to do with hardware and horsepower.

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    The PS4 was listed as available briefly on Amazon earlier tonight - for $1000 with a release date of March 31, 2020, clearly placeholder info.

    pastapadre (lucky bastard!) was among those able to add it to his cart and last I saw on Twitter, it was still in his account history.

    Remember, with Amazon they will give you the lowest price so if his order is good (and not wiped out due to the listing being a 'bug') he would receive it at the MSRP/lowest Amazon price (whatever that ends up being). Anyone interested may want to bookmark the link above and keep checking periodically.

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    Yeah, I missed it by about 2 minutes. It'll be back up, so it's not the end of the world. You can set Amazon to alert you via email when it comes in stock, but they take forever, so it's probably best to just refresh that page like you said.

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    PS4 could allow multiple subscription levels

    The PlayStation 4 could offer gamers multiple subscription levels, Sony president of Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida told The Guardian. The executive said that because services and content have become available digitally, Sony is in a position to act like a traditional cable TV company and offer multiple membership tiers.

    "As more and more services and contents become available digitally, we'll have more of an option to create attractive packages. So hypothetically we can look at different models--like a cable TV company," Yoshida said.

    "We could have gold, silver or platinum levels of membership, something like that. We can do subscription services when we have more content--especially now that we have the Gaikai technology available," he added. "With one subscription you have access to thousands of games--that's our dream.

    "We're shifting our platform more and more to the digital side--PS4 will be similar to PS Vita in that every game will be available as a digital download, and some will also be available as a disc," he said. "The Witness will be a digital release and because of the flexibility of the digital distribution scheme, we can have more small games that might be free or available for a couple of dollars, or different services like free-to-play or subscription models."

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