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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Smh. You are have a LOT to learn kiddo. If I am remembering right, you're the kid who is only like 13 years old. Clearly based on your posts here, all you've been taught in life by your parents, your siblings, your peers, your elders, etc, is the ever ongoing oppression of blacks, cops are only out to kill (arrest if you're lucky) blacks, don't trust whitey because whitey will rat you out to the police and/or kill/arrest you, etc. Come back in about 15 years when you actually have hair on your balls and have had some true life experiences outside of whatever neighborhood you live in.

    All of your posts have done nothing but continue the same emotion laced parroted talking points of the pro-Brown crowd, completely ignoring all facts and evidence in the case and keeping your heads ignorantly in your own fantasy world. You have literally ZERO clue about police procedures, police tactics, the justice system, the way courts work, the way police investigations and grand juries work, etc. Go to college and take at the minimum a couple of basic level criminal justice classes, get a clue of what the hell you're talking about, and then come back and we'll have a discussion.

    Otherwise, right now, it's completely pointless trying to have a conversation because all you're doing is completely ignoring the facts and evidence and instead letting your emotions and personal biases control your thoughts and just parroting every single claim and talking point you've heard the protesters and Al Sharpton repeat on TV for three months, no matter how blatantly false those claims are.


    Agreeing with the Darren Wilson doesn't necessarily make you racist(albeit stupid) but a lot of this unnecessary shit these people saying definitely points to a lot of closet racists in this world.

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    why did he have to shoot him?

    are officers not equipped with tasers??

    and why after you shoot him and he's "45 feet away" do you feel the need to confront the situation further instead of waiting for back up?

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    when he's in your car grabbing at your gun, okay maybe pulling the trigger was justified


    but after that point deadly force is not required at all

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    I think we were better off when dhook was just creating Rap threads.

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    Wrong crowd dhook to try and sway.....

    That being said as a black person there is plenty wrong with my own race that hurts our argument instead of helps, but you are correct in the context of white privilege.

    What all of this really boils down to is the view that most blacks especially in the inner city are viewed as threatening even if they aren't showing any threating behavior. We are assumed to be doing something criminal (see any of clw posts where he assumes the cops are correct even before anything else is released ) and unless you are black you don't get that, but it circles back to black people hurting our arguments more than helping it.

    And then people expect us to trust a system where we are guilty until proven otherwise and all the old are stacked against us....

    FYI don't argue with smooth he generally hates everyone so don't take it personal . ....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    Wrong crowd dhook to try and sway.....

    That being said as a black person there is plenty wrong with my own race that hurts our argument instead of helps, but you are correct in the context of white privilege.

    What all of this really boils down to is the view that most blacks especially in the inner city are viewed as threatening even if they aren't showing any threating behavior. We are assumed to be doing something criminal (see any of clw posts where he assumes the cops are correct even before anything else is released ) and unless you are black you don't get that, but it circles back to black people hurting our arguments more than helping it.

    And then people expect us to trust a system where we are guilty until proven otherwise and all the old are stacked against us....

    FYI don't argue with smooth he generally hates everyone so don't take it personal . ....lol
    Solid points from Oweb, I expected no less as I still remember our conversation over race while killing midgets in Borderlands 2. We need to do that again sometime. I can tell you all the stories of my white privilege over the past few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdoughty View Post
    Solid points from Oweb, I expected no less as I still remember our conversation over race while killing midgets in Borderlands 2. We need to do that again sometime. I can tell you all the stories of my white privilege over the past few years.
    The good Ole days of borderlands 2 ...kind sad they didn't bring the new one to next gen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    Wrong crowd dhook to try and sway.....

    That being said as a black person there is plenty wrong with my own race that hurts our argument instead of helps, but you are correct in the context of white privilege.

    What all of this really boils down to is the view that most blacks especially in the inner city are viewed as threatening even if they aren't showing any threating behavior. We are assumed to be doing something criminal (see any of clw posts where he assumes the cops are correct even before anything else is released ) and unless you are black you don't get that, but it circles back to black people hurting our arguments more than helping it.

    And then people expect us to trust a system where we are guilty until proven otherwise and all the old are stacked against us....

    FYI don't argue with smooth he generally hates everyone so don't take it personal . ....lol

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    Hey now, I don't hate everyone. I don't hate you oweb. I don't hate mors. I don't hate Jeff, or G, or CDJ, or JB, or snoop, or Eric, or steeler. I can go on and on.

    Is there profiling against black people by police? Yes. Do black people probably get more basic scrutiny from cops than a random white person will or would? Yes. Is a 6'4", 300 pound black guy going to be viewed as more threatening than a 6'1" 180 pound white guy by a single lone cop? Probably. Will there be biases by cops against blacks? In areas where blacks commit the majority of crimes, of course they are going to be profiled and the police will be more biased against them. Same thing if a largely white area has the majority of crimes committed by whites, guess what? White people will be profiled. It all has to do with demographics of those who live there and those who commit the amount of crimes in that area.

    It really all boils down to a couple of basic don'ts. Don't commit crimes. Don't act threateningly or menacingly towards police, don't attack or try to challenge police because you have a "fuck the popo" and black oppression chip on your shoulder. In general, don't act like a lawless douchebag and you won't have any problems with the police.
    Last edited by SmoothPancakes; 11-25-2014 at 08:42 PM.

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    If it was a black police officer that shot a white criminal would you feel the same way you do now?

    Most people don't have the courage to answer that honestly.

    If you would feel differently than you do now, you are racist no matter what your race.

    When I was about 20 I buried a guy who was my age and was shot by police. He was at a party and shit went bad. Someone pulled out a gun and the cops were called out. They made the one guy drop the gun and the other one picked it up so they shot his ass dead. Incidentally, he had AIDS.

    At his funeral I remember the family playing, "Wind Beneath My Wings" and all of his friends saying that he was only trying to give the gun to the police (lol, yeah right).

    I remember thinking, "Yeah, this fucking loser who had AIDS and was shot by the police is my hero. Give me a god damn break."

    He was white and I feel the same way that I do now. If you fuck with the police, you get what you get. You're stupid to do that.

    Not many people go to work everyday knowing they could be shot dead by some asshole. Cops get shot all the time. I don't blame them (when threatened) for deciding to kill instead of risking being killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Hey now, I don't hate everyone. I don't hate you oweb. I don't hate mors. I don't hate Jeff, or G, or CDJ, or JB, or snoop, or Eric, or steeler. I can go on and on.

    Is there profiling against black people by police? Yes. Do black people probably get more basic scrutiny from cops than a random white person will or would? Yes. Is a 6'4", 300 pound black guy going to be viewed as more threatening than a 6'1" 180 pound white guy by a single lone cop? Probably. Will there be biases by cops against blacks? In areas where blacks commit the majority of crimes, of course they are going to be profiled and the police will be more biased against them. Same thing if a largely white area has the majority of crimes committed by whites, guess what? White people will be profiled. It all has to do with demographics of those who live there and those who commit the amount of crimes in that area.

    It really all boils down to a couple of basic don'ts. Don't commit crimes. Don't act threateningly or menacingly towards police, don't attack or try to challenge police because you have a "fuck the popo" and black oppression chip on your shoulder. In general, don't act like a lawless douchebag and you won't have any problems with the police.
    Feeling hated now......sadness

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCClassof93 View Post
    Feeling hated now......sadness
    I was trying to pull up names off of the top of my head, just couldn't remember everyone. Hell, I don't even hate CLW, and me and him have gone at it hardcore in the past. I don't hate people. I hate stupidity. And the reactions of the protesters last night when they didn't get what THEY perceived as "justice" is the stupidity that I hate. I don't hate the people protesting, I hate the willful ignorance and stupidity of completely dismissing and ignoring FACTUAL EVIDENCE and just continuing to parrot the same stupid shit of the past three months that has now been emphatically debunked, and the willful ignorance and stupidity of acting out by burning down and destroying your OWN fucking city, which is just about the stupidest possible thing you could do.

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    I hate ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    I hate ram.

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    Ok, Ram might by the ONE exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post


    Ok, Ram might by the ONE exception.

    You take this internet shit too serious b. Fucking lame lmaooo

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    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCClassof93 View Post
    You have made it well known here how you vote. While the term "equivalent" was not used in your post you are the one the drew in internet posts (in comparison it appears) to the actual riots as to making Americans seem "uncivilized". If I have misinterpreted your post please clarify how words compare to actions on the "civility" spectrum.
    No, other people have inferred how I vote. That I can immediately recall, I've never posted here about who I actually voted for in any election.

    And yes, plenty of the things said about Ferguson, from both sides, have made the individuals speaking appear to be some combination of uncivilized, inhumane, and whatever the opposite of empathy is.

    There is a laundry list of things that have been wrong or embarrassing (to obviously different degrees) with everything that has happened since the initial shooting. But the events of last night are not indicative of Saint Louis, or even the whole of Ferguson. So I took exception to the idea that Saint Louis is an embarrassment, or in any way the sole event making Americans look bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    the willful ignorance and stupidity of acting out by burning down and destroying your OWN fucking city, which is just about the stupidest possible thing you could do.
    I couldn't agree with this more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhook27 View Post
    why did he have to shoot him?

    are officers not equipped with tasers??

    and why after you shoot him and he's "45 feet away" do you feel the need to confront the situation further instead of waiting for back up?
    Because the guy rushed him.

    Because an average guy can cover 45 feet MUCH faster than you think. Go Google/Youtube videos that prove how a knife attacker can cover that distance before most people can get a gun out.

    Because he had already tried to take the officer's gun which is a HUGE red flag in law enforcement training.

    Because he was a suspect in a robbery and assault.

    Because law enforcement is trained and expected to pursue, not let criminals run off free.

    Educate yourself on what law enforcement has to deal with before criticizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhook27 View Post
    So many struggle excuses being made lmao
    Witness #10 fully corroborated the officer's version of the story.

    Rudy Giuliani's interview today as a guest on some news show blew dhook's every statement in this thread out of the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhook27 View Post
    If u honestly believe he doesn't deserve jail time you are a complete dumbass sorry man lmao
    Wow. You are entirely blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
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