why did he have to shoot him?
are officers not equipped with tasers??
and why after you shoot him and he's "45 feet away" do you feel the need to confront the situation further instead of waiting for back up?
when he's in your car grabbing at your gun, okay maybe pulling the trigger was justified
but after that point deadly force is not required at all
I think we were better off when dhook was just creating Rap threads.
Wrong crowd dhook to try and sway.....
That being said as a black person there is plenty wrong with my own race that hurts our argument instead of helps, but you are correct in the context of white privilege.
What all of this really boils down to is the view that most blacks especially in the inner city are viewed as threatening even if they aren't showing any threating behavior. We are assumed to be doing something criminal (see any of clw posts where he assumes the cops are correct even before anything else is released ) and unless you are black you don't get that, but it circles back to black people hurting our arguments more than helping it.
And then people expect us to trust a system where we are guilty until proven otherwise and all the old are stacked against us....
FYI don't argue with smooth he generally hates everyone so don't take it personal . ....lol
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Hey now, I don't hate everyone.I don't hate you oweb. I don't hate mors. I don't hate Jeff, or G, or CDJ, or JB, or snoop, or Eric, or steeler. I can go on and on.
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Is there profiling against black people by police? Yes. Do black people probably get more basic scrutiny from cops than a random white person will or would? Yes. Is a 6'4", 300 pound black guy going to be viewed as more threatening than a 6'1" 180 pound white guy by a single lone cop? Probably. Will there be biases by cops against blacks? In areas where blacks commit the majority of crimes, of course they are going to be profiled and the police will be more biased against them. Same thing if a largely white area has the majority of crimes committed by whites, guess what? White people will be profiled. It all has to do with demographics of those who live there and those who commit the amount of crimes in that area.
It really all boils down to a couple of basic don'ts. Don't commit crimes. Don't act threateningly or menacingly towards police, don't attack or try to challenge police because you have a "fuck the popo" and black oppression chip on your shoulder. In general, don't act like a lawless douchebag and you won't have any problems with the police.
Last edited by SmoothPancakes; 11-25-2014 at 08:42 PM.
If it was a black police officer that shot a white criminal would you feel the same way you do now?
Most people don't have the courage to answer that honestly.
If you would feel differently than you do now, you are racist no matter what your race.
When I was about 20 I buried a guy who was my age and was shot by police. He was at a party and shit went bad. Someone pulled out a gun and the cops were called out. They made the one guy drop the gun and the other one picked it up so they shot his ass dead. Incidentally, he had AIDS.
At his funeral I remember the family playing, "Wind Beneath My Wings" and all of his friends saying that he was only trying to give the gun to the police (lol, yeah right).
I remember thinking, "Yeah, this fucking loser who had AIDS and was shot by the police is my hero. Give me a god damn break."
He was white and I feel the same way that I do now. If you fuck with the police, you get what you get. You're stupid to do that.
Not many people go to work everyday knowing they could be shot dead by some asshole. Cops get shot all the time. I don't blame them (when threatened) for deciding to kill instead of risking being killed.
I #TrustTheScript
I was trying to pull up names off of the top of my head, just couldn't remember everyone. Hell, I don't even hate CLW, and me and him have gone at it hardcore in the past. I don't hate people. I hate stupidity. And the reactions of the protesters last night when they didn't get what THEY perceived as "justice" is the stupidity that I hate. I don't hate the people protesting, I hate the willful ignorance and stupidity of completely dismissing and ignoring FACTUAL EVIDENCE and just continuing to parrot the same stupid shit of the past three months that has now been emphatically debunked, and the willful ignorance and stupidity of acting out by burning down and destroying your OWN fucking city, which is just about the stupidest possible thing you could do.
No, other people have inferred how I vote. That I can immediately recall, I've never posted here about who I actually voted for in any election.
And yes, plenty of the things said about Ferguson, from both sides, have made the individuals speaking appear to be some combination of uncivilized, inhumane, and whatever the opposite of empathy is.
There is a laundry list of things that have been wrong or embarrassing (to obviously different degrees) with everything that has happened since the initial shooting. But the events of last night are not indicative of Saint Louis, or even the whole of Ferguson. So I took exception to the idea that Saint Louis is an embarrassment, or in any way the sole event making Americans look bad.
I couldn't agree with this more.
Last edited by JeffHCross; 11-25-2014 at 10:54 PM.
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Because the guy rushed him.
Because an average guy can cover 45 feet MUCH faster than you think. Go Google/Youtube videos that prove how a knife attacker can cover that distance before most people can get a gun out.
Because he had already tried to take the officer's gun which is a HUGE red flag in law enforcement training.
Because he was a suspect in a robbery and assault.
Because law enforcement is trained and expected to pursue, not let criminals run off free.
Educate yourself on what law enforcement has to deal with before criticizing.
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