USED games bye bye? F-U microsoft. PS better not go this route...this could be a big f-up by Mike.
USED games bye bye? F-U microsoft. PS better not go this route...this could be a big f-up by Mike.
As much as I hate Gamestop, I do like having a physical disc. That said, Steam's success has shown there are plenty of people around who could care less about having a disc.
Yeah, I generally do like having a physical disc, but I have grown out of that as far as computer games. I have 50 games on my computer and it's so much easier just being able to fire any of them up within seconds through Steam than have to go pull out the disc(s) from wherever they may end up stored at over time. So I can definitely see myself becoming used to having no discs for Xbox.Originally Posted by bdoughty
Here's a thought. If these rumors turn out to be true, would games potentially be cheaper on Xbox? You won't have to deal with the costs of making and shipping physical discs and cases. It'd just be a matter of uploading the game on to MS' servers and the Xbox Live marketplace.
If they are cheaper, they won't be by much. It's total bullshit that games on consoles are $60 when I can get the exact same game, brand new, for the PC for $40. Makes absolutely no sense at all.
with new consoles..they should also design them for easier hook up..not having to worry about this wire or that wire or in/out what ever into the tv
Huh?
My PS3 has a power cord and an HDMI cable. How much simpler do you want it?
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Exactly. My 360, a power cord going to the surge bar and an HDMI cable going to the TV. What else is there worry about or deal with?
Should they be? Yes. Will they? Doubtful.
I still think there is a huge market out there who want that physical disc to justify the $60 purchase. (Think parents, older gamers, people who play on multiple consoles, people with no/slow net, those who recoup cost by trading game in, etc.) For a while we will get games both digitally and physical, but I don't think companies are going to undercut brick & mortar retailers by selling them for less online. The middleman and physical packaging costs are gone, but they still have to pay something to MS & Sony to put them in the store - and they also get a commission/cut for each sale. Total digital distribution falls under the category of a 'perfect world' item. On paper it sounds perfect, but in reality there are still a ton of hurdles to overcome.
My best bet is that Microsoft and/or Sony make a push so that all games are available digitally on their next console at launch, however they will still have physical media also available as an option. If they're smart, they'll offer the digital version either a few days earlier or make it $10-$20 less than the physical copy.
Yeah, if the digital version was even $10 less than the physical copy, hell, I may like having an actual case and disc on my hands, but I'm fine with no disc or case for $40 or $50.
Big companies never think, "hey, let's pass the savings on to the consumer."
Full versions of games are downloadable now for $59.99. I'll believe that they'll be cheaper when I see it. If anything, my guess is that games jump to $69.99 on the next generation of consoles.
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And if games get to that point, it could just end up being the point that puts me right out of gaming. Paying $300+ for a console is bad enough, but paying nearly $100 just for a game is getting fucking ridiculous. I've made due with $60 for this generation, but if it gets to $70, then either I'm retiring from console gaming and going solely PC gaming, or I'm going to become ultra anal conservative with my game buying and only get the games I absolutely 100% know I will play regularly, which means new series and games will never have a chance with me.
You guys are missing the #1 reason that the pricing will stay EXACTLY the same no matter how the software is handled. The new technology makes games more expensive to make. I am just waiting for Activision's CEO to come out and discuss a $69.99 retail price. Remember they were the ones that made the push for $59.99 this generation. They will add that ad revenue is not bringing in as much as expected, etc,etc, etc.
Well, like I said, if shit hits $70 and higher, new games and companies are going to get almost NO support from me. I'm going to stick to what I know and enjoy at that point, and am going to transition to almost exclusively PC gaming. I have 50-60 games or so sitting on my entertainment shelf for 360. I have 50 games installed on my laptop right now. That will easily grow to over 100 in the future if prices keep going up. There are easily hundreds of computer games I could get and would probably enjoy that I can get all for $40 or less. Add in Steam sales with shit priced in half or games under $10 or $5, hell yeah, so long Sony and MS.
Here is example #1 of why I may start steering more towards PC gaming if game prices increase with the next-gen consoles. MLB 2K12, just came out last Tuesday, $59.99 for PS3/360, $29.99 for PC on Steam. Highest priced PC game I've seen on Steam is $49.99. If console prices reach $70 or higher in the future, console gaming for me will be all but dead except for the very few handful of games that would be meet my levels of expectations and have sky high replay values, and it'll be almost nothing but PC from then on.
PC, in the long run, is definitely the cheapest option with Steam and Amazon sells frequently DESTROYING the prices of these games normal retail wise.
Yeah, I've made a couple of game buys that I had never given any thought of buying or had even noticed existed until after seeing them on sale for insanely cheap on Steam and Amazon. A sale for PS3 or 360 is considered good or great if it makes it down to $35 or $40. A PC sale, shit, that stuff can reach down to $10 or $20, and lower for some of the slightly older games. PC definitely wins out and is cheaper. Only thing keeping me on consoles is I'm so used to playing games with a controller and would never be able to play another shooter, fighting/adventure or sports game as I just can't do it well at all with mouse and keyboard.
And just looking through my wishlist on Steam, yeah, completely blows consoles out of the water. I have 16 games in my wishlist that I plan to buy for PC. Total prices (at this moment, will most likely drop more as prices on various games continue dropping over time) would be $329.44 for all of them. Comes out to $20.58 per game. Buying $60 games for consoles, I'd get 5 games total. I'd get 6 games for games priced $50. 8 games for games priced $40. PC just destroys the consoles in prices. And if the consoles go up to $70 or higher, PC is going to start getting more of that money that consoles currently get.
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See, I'm the exact opposite. I HATE playing anything that's not a fighting/adventure/sports game with a controller. I can't stand playing shooters with a controller. It's the most imprecise thing I've ever experienced.
But, for those like you that can't stand to play them with keyboard and mouse, most all PC ports of these shooters supports using a controller and if you have a wired Xbox 360 controller, it's plug and play with those games.
The ONLY issue is game companies fucking PC players by not supporting their PC ports of games as well as their console ports (I'm looking at you motherfuckin' 2kgames) or just not getting the game until much later on the PC. Doesn't happen often, but it's a real bitch when it happens with a game that you are enjoying/looking forward to.
Yeah, I've only got wireless controllers, but I'll have to look into getting a wired one solely for PC. It's not so much that I hate using the mouse and keyboard, it's just that I suck ass at remembering which letter does what and hitting the right letters and buttons and right mouse movements in the heat of the moment, especially some of these games with half the keyboard assigned to commands in the game. Like hell I'm gonna be able to remember every individual command tied to a letter.
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