Madden, FIFA, and NBA Live are all launch titles I believe.
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Madden, FIFA, and NBA Live are all launch titles I believe.
According to Wikipedia's list of PS4 games, they will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
wow that seems a little scary to me. watered down versions again? granted there is still 5 months left but that seems like a rush to me especially with very little detail given about features/gameplay on any of those titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
There's a good chance that they've been in development longer than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Pretty sure Cam Weber went on record as saying that Madden will be full-featured... that probably means the same exact franchise mode as current gen but it will have those features available.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I assume they have been working on them for years now. IMHO 14/25 for PS3 isn't much more than a roster update and a few small tweaks giving NCAA Madden's last year's physics so they have to be doing something over there. They also aren't hyping them at all leaving me to believe there will be a BIG PR push this fall for everyone to go pick up PS4/XB1 titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Well that would be good to know. I had already planned on picking up PS4 Madden but only if there was at least the same franchise/owner mode as PS3 (and assuming no BS DRM). :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
Yea that would be an issue in the night time . But maybe it an be turned off. We will have to wait and see. I'm super excited to get the ps4. I've been a long time PlayStation owner since the Ps1. I just can't pass the upgrade with it only 399$Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
Here you go...Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...o06o0Ls#t=475s
Hmmm, may have to get Madden for ps4 :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
It doesn't seem as bright as the 360 light. Seems pretty dull with the cover on it. The 360 drove me nuts when the battery would be at half and that thing would constantly cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy
lol exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
it's "funny" and "sad" all at the same time. my newphew likes video games but at 11 obviously doesn't follow it all that closely. he just likes the show; ncaa and nascar and few other games as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
i could easily see him not bringing it up as a want item for christmas until the last minute. he didn't even have a christmas list thanksgiving until i finally lawyered it out of him. :nod:
parents will then scramble fights will ensue. i really don't want my mother getting mugged over a ps4 or out driving around all over earth trying to find one so i wanted to make sure she got it ordered and can avoid the chaos that is undoubtedly going to ensue.
Yeah it really is
Talking to my friends online, they think they will just be able to casually stroll in to buy one like they said they did for PS3. Well the PS3 was going for $600-$699. Alot of people were paying that, buit alot weren't. $399 people will definitely shell out for it
You should tell your friends they are wrong. The impression the local Gamestop gave her was that they are basically going to be sold out for them at launch and don't know when/if/how many they are going to get after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
I suppose it all depends on how well production is going.
You're reading way too much into what Sony is saying about how their system is built. Let me ask you a question, if you're so convinced publishers wont be "allowed" to implement a serial code to lock the whole game and can't require at least an online check at the beginning of the game, why wont EA come right out and say no DRM? Online passes are gone, so why wont they say it?Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I don't know how many different ways I can say this. Quit listening to Sony. When they speak about this stuff, they are ONLY talking about how they designed their console (no restrictions but open to publishers to decide) and how they will work with their first party studios (no online passes - but never mentioned anything else).
If publishers want to block offline play, they still can. I think you're putting all your eggs into the PR babble Sony is saying and ignoring the blatantly obvious facts that what they say isn't the entire story.
Absolutely ANYTHING they say about 3rd party publishers is horseshit because they've already said they're not going to dictate how they design their game.
Based on this post and what others mentioned I'm good.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdj
That is my thinking. And they never can produce enough for the demand that it has. They make 1 million, demand will be for 3 million, etcQuote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I can understand wanting or needing to hold off. But if you plan on getting one and don't think you have to pre-order. In the words of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo
Well this gets back to that whole disagreement you have about supply v. demand. I don't think a publisher is dumb enough to try what you are saying. The absolute reaction on the net has been positive to Sony's ("Just like PS3" policy). EA (some other publisher) does something like you are suggesting there will be an absolute shit storm on the net and sales will plummet on PS4.Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
I mean you have seen the reaction pro PS4 and anti XB1 since the policy was announced? Just imagine what happens when a publisher says nope you cannot trade this PS4 game in or play it used. People will freak the F out (unless the game is a "legit" online only type game - MMO).
IF you are right and EA does it with NCAA saying you have to be "always online" (by either eliminating all offline modes) or some dumb bs code blocking used games they lose me as a customer. I'll play other games and I'll enjoy the PR nightmare they will have inflicted upon themselves.
I'm not saying they WILL. I'm saying they CAN. I think you're assuming that because they can, I think they will, and that's not the case. I do not know whether publishers will do this or not. I do, however, know that they have full capability to do so if they want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
But, it's clear that EA at the very least, is looking over their options. Wasn't that the assumption you reached whenever you read that interview I posted? He absolutely would not come out and say anything about it, so you know it's definitely being considered.
I've seen the reaction on the internet, yes. I've also seen the Xbox One completely sell out in under 24 hours, so that tells me the people bitching are such a small portion of the potential consumer base that they should be ignored, quite frankly.
Now, will people freak out? Yes, but it still wont affect sales. People freaked out about the online pass and that didn't affect sales, either.
I doubt many games will go to the constantly required to connect thing, because that just seems dumb (and even Xbox One isn't doing that). However, I could see a one time use code that blocks the entire game until entered. It would work like the online pass now, only when you get to the main menu of the game, if you don't have the pass downloaded, you don't play at all. They truly wouldn't even need to do anything special, because it could be implemented just like an online pass. I'd say that's the most likely scenario IF they do it.
And honestly, CLW, I don't blame you for getting confused on it because Sony is being a bunch of douche rags with how they're stating things. This interview is the perfect example:
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We've already come right out and said we're not going to allow online pass. And the word "allow" is key there. Specifically with online, with PS+ requiring a charge to play online, we would not want any publisher [to charge.]
In general, we're all businesses. Sony or Microsoft is never going to be able to tell EA or Activision exactly what they can do. What we like to say at PlayStation is that we set the precedent. The way we are approaching this is that we want this to be extremely consumer-friendly, extremely retailer-friendly, and extremely publisher-friendly. My personal opinion is that it's hard for me to believe that any major publisher is going to put an extra set of used DRM onto game titles because that wouldn't put them in a good spot, right?
The bold part clearly says they're not going to allow any online passes (which is a joke because they have no control over it). Then, the very next words out of his mouth are "Sony will never be able to tell publishers like EA what to do." Uh, what the hell? Didn't he JUST say they weren't allowing online passes from anyone? But they also can't control publishers?
Absolutely the dumbest shit I've ever read in my life, and everyone at Sony that speaks about this does the same thing. It's really fucking annoying, to be honest.
The facts are this:
*Sony does not require a game to be registered on their system.
*Sony's first party studios will reportedly not use an online pass or anything similar.
*3rd Party publishers are allowed to implement online passes, full game passes, and if they so choose, are allowed to implement any other form of DRM that they want, whether that be online check at the start of the game, required online throughout the game, or whatever else.
Those are all 100% confirmed facts without the Sony PR babble.
Would you both drop this or at least stop talking past each other :deadhorse:
This is basically my thoughts. Yes you are right. Theoretically, EA could come out and make me run a mile in under 5 minutes bench press 700 pounds enter in a 1 billion digit code that if not entered within 2 minutes self-destructs before allowing me to play Madden.Quote:
My personal opinion is that it's hard for me to believe that any major publisher is going to put an extra set of used DRM onto game titles because that wouldn't put them in a good spot, right?
However, Sony's made it clear that DRM is wrong and they do not encourage it or support it through its hardware. IF EA (some other publisher) goes with the 5/700/1,000,000,000 challenge (or some other ridiculous DRM that isn't justified) I'm out and I'll laugh and post all the hilarious stuff on the net that bashes EA's reputation.
EDIT:That's all I wanted. IF EA someone else institutes something I don't agree with I won't purchase their product but will have the ability to purchase products whose policies I agree with or at least accept.Quote:
"it's just like PS3."
that's interesting that (if you believe this) "just like PS3" was their plan and then MS' debacle turned it into a selling feature.Quote:
"That's just something that we've always wanted to do," says Rohde. "It's not a plan that changed based on what Microsoft has been saying over the past month or two. It's just, 'Oh, I guess we should emphasize this now,' because it's a serious point of advantage for us. So let's have a little fun with it, basically."
Agreed on all counts. Just because they can, doesn't mean they should. That's up to them to decide. I've never let that stuff bother me, so I'd buy it anyway if it was any good.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I was kind of holding out hope that publishers wouldn't do it, but after reading that Peter Moore interview yesterday, I know they're at least considering it. It'll be kind of funny to see if publishers are willing to try it and if so, which publisher shoots first.
Oh its CLEAR AS DAY to me EA was NOT happy with Sony's conference. They have PR problems as it is and Sony sticking up for its consumers is just going to DESTROY EA's reputation with allot of gamers when they go back on their no more online pass promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
I'll be clear I will still buy the games if they are EXACTLY the same DRM wise as before (online pass). But EA puts the entire game behind a wall or some other tech crap and I'm out.
I don't think we are disagreeing on the actual facts right now re: PS4. I think the disagreement comes on how likely EA is to try to "pull something" DRM wise on PS4.
I think you are pretty convinced they probably will. I'm pretty convinced they won't or at least can't w/o suffering a huge blowback from some consumers. EA has to make a choice and its a choice they wanted someone else to make for them.
Meh I enjoy disagreeing/debating w/o being disagreeable. IOU and I haven't called each other a [CENSORED] or used any other profanities 18 times per post during our "debate".Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
I think its actually going to be interesting to see b/c IOU and I have been debating this issue pretty regularly re: whether a publisher can or cannot do this and not see a drop in sales. I wanted the opportunity to see a result and we might just get to see who was actually correct if EA has the guts to do what they wanted all along.
I don't think our DRM talk is welcomed anymore, CLW. :D
:smh: I'm still trying to figure out how to share PS4 games though this instructional video is really difficult to follow. :nod:Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA
Maybe you can explain it to me. :nod:
Look you have been in agreement for days. MS has not forbade used games but has made them a pain in the butt. PS4 won't forbade used games but nowhere has said third parties will have to agree. As I see it MS has stepped into the role of "dick" by protecting the "dicks", something PS did not do. I agree with the Sony model of business, give me choices and let businesses compete for my $$$. Sadly imho many will so have to play a game they will jump through all sorts of hoops to do so. This will aid in "dickish" business practices. None of us know the future but I do hope there are enough that will push back even to the point of not playing (go outside, read, anything) video games. If they all go this route that MS has set forth, I am out. I do have hope in the free market however to make informed choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
I remember divx, brought to you by "dickish" and deceased Circuit City.
Nah, just Gators ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...aAAz9zCSZHQy6sQuote:
Originally Posted by CLW
Pure gold!Quote:
Originally Posted by SCClassof93
Typed by thumbs.
For whatever it is worth PS4 "launch" edition remains #1 and "standard" edition is #3
XB1 "Day 1" is #2 and "standard" is #5.
So at least on Amazon Sony is out to some form of a lead in the US.
Interesting the PS4 games are also selling better than XB1 games
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-v...6427871011_2#1
So when does everybody think the "Holiday Season" start? I think they might reveal a set date at TGS.
I'm thinking late October, early November. I'll almost guarantee its out before Black Friday.
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Originally Posted by Kingpin32
This. Late October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneback
Yep, last 2 weeks of October or first 2 weeks of November. Somewhere in between there probably.
This is what I've been thinking. Their previous systems always came out right around the November month if I recall correctly. I think they're gonna want to give consumers time to get it before ChristmasQuote:
Originally Posted by Oneback