Coaching Carousel: Love It or Hate It?

[jaymo76]

Dumb, dumb, dumb... that's all I can say. I finish my sixth year and win the N.C. for the first time in NCAA 12. This corresponds with the end of my second contract. Here are the facts...

I start as an OC at Syracuse and am rated an A
I go to Cal and am rated an A+
RECORD AT CAL~ 39-4 (42ND MOST WINS IN NCAA AT THIS POINT)
Win 2 PAC 12 championships and one N.C.
meet 14 goals and only fail 1
HAVE 100% APPROVAL RATING
This is CAL's first N.C. since 1937...

... and what type of contract am I awarded with...

A TWO YEAR DEAL (AND BACK TO 57% APPROVAL) with rigorous goals like make it to "a bowl game" and "have a top 75 recruiting class." My expectations should be way higher and my approval should be way higher and most importantly, my contract offer should be way longer. This needs serious tuning for NCAA 13.

[SmoothPancakes]

Agreed. Just like my contract right now at FIU. One of my goals, is 500+ rushing yards each season. The worst rushing team in NCAA last season in real life, Bowling Green, had 754 yards rushing. I would have to average 41 yard rushing per game just to fail that goal. Same thing with the Total Offensive yards. I need to get 2000+ each season. New Mexico had the worst offense last year, and one of the worst teams, and they still managed 3,188 yards of total offense. I had to get 7 passing touchdowns in one season (completed it early in my first season), the lowest ranked team in 2010, was Army with 7 TDs. Same thing with 10+ points per game each season. The worst scoring offense in 2010 was Buffalo with 14.2 PPG.

Overall, they just drastically have to bump up these goals. They are WAY too easy when it comes to stats goals. You have to pretty much intentionally fail them just to fail them. Either that, or put in the option in the coach options menu or somewhere in the dynasty menu. Easy goals, tough (medium) goals, or hard goals. So the people who want extremely easy and guaranteed to pass goals can have them, those of us who want challenging goals that we'll have a hard time and a greater risk of failing can have them.

They also need to start tailoring goals to each team, like you said, based on the results of say the last 2-3 seasons, and what was done, you approval rating, etc. If you just won the national championship, your new contract should be winning the conference championship at least one year, making at least a BCS bowl game at least one year, having a top 10 or 25 recruiting class, finish each season in the BCS top 25 (or 35 or 50), finish 3rd or better in the conference each season, stuff like that. If you win the national championship, your new contract should have very to extremely high expectations.

And I agree with the approval ratings. Christ Peterson is 100% approval rating right now at Boise State. No way in hell should he drop below 100% after the end of next season when his 3 year contract expires. I don't care if he's getting a new contract, whatever your approval rating is at the completion of a contract, it should stay there if you sign a new contract with that same team. No coach is going to have his approval rating in real life drop from 100% to 50-something% just because he signed a new contract. It's ludicrous.

Granted, this is the first year of coaching carousel, so I am optimistic that they are going to add even more potential goals to appear on contracts, as well as toughen up goals and make them harder, for NCAA 13. This year was a great start, it just needs some work to make it even better.

[kywildcat]

The only thing about CC that I'm confused about is the Carousel at the end of the year. Is there a way to see all of your offers before you decline to renew with your current school. I was head coach at 1* Iowa State (i think it was 2013 or 2014 because ISU doesn't start with 1*) and had a decent year like 7-5 or 8-4 I finished almost all my goals I think the only one i missed was finish top 3 in the conference but it only had 1< so it didn't hurt me at all. ISU offered to renew my contract but I like to play with different teams so I wanted to see who else would offer me a HC contract and after declining to renew I was only offered OC/DC jobs. Is there any way to see teams interested in me before I decline because the unexpected job offers didn't have any until I declined to renew.

[oweb26]

Once they offer you an extension there should be an option that says view other contracts and from there you should be able to see other offers before accepting any new ones.

[jaymo76]

Well, that confirms it... second season in a row and the schedule is created based on GEOGRAPHY. (Eg at week 2. vs Oregon week 3 at Oregon St. week 4 at Washington week 5 vs Washington St. This seems minor but the non-random aspect of the scedule takes a lot of fun out of this game.

[JeffHCross]

Well, that confirms it... second season in a row and the schedule is created based on GEOGRAPHY. (Eg at week 2. vs Oregon week 3 at Oregon St. week 4 at Washington week 5 vs Washington St.

I actually think that might be a straight fluke. I went into Years 3 and 4 in a Pac-12 schedule and didn't notice any kind of pattern like that. Though I may have overlooked it.

[jaymo76]

I actually think that might be a straight fluke. I went into Years 3 and 4 in a Pac-12 schedule and didn't notice any kind of pattern like that. Though I may have overlooked it.

Just an update but as I start my fourth year in the PAC 12, every division game has been based on GEOGRAPHY.

THE PATTERN PRETTY MUCH PLAYS OUT THE SAME EACH YEAR with regards to ARIZONA TEAMS, OREGON TEAMS, and WASHINGTON TEAMS. The only thing that really changes is the location.

at ASU
vs Arizona
at Oregon
vs Oregon State
at Washington State
vs Washington

I am playing as CAL and I have not heard this reported by anyone else so maybe it's just my copy. However, I really hope this issue will not effect NCAA 13.

[Blackman]

How about better offers. I spent 15 years as an offensive coordinator for penn state (I only simulate games) and entered the coaching carousel every year. my best offers if i can recall for head coach were rutgers, army, syracuse, and thats it. every other team that offered me sucks. I would have stayed at penn state, but Tom Bradley wouldn't retire, (until i left lol). I had no major offers after i went to the carousel and had to settle with san jose state, who to my luck had a 93 overall HB in which we went 10-3 betting 4 ranked teams including Penn State who was number 1. (miracle). Even after that i didn't have a single good offer beside offensive coordinator jobs. Now I won 4 national championships 2 rose bowls an orange bowl and 5 other bowl games as well as 5 conference championships in big 10 and 1 in the wac as a head coach, maintaining a A+ coaching prestige. So why do I get passed up on all these jobs? it angers me greatly seeing I have to either take a job at ECU or go back to San Jose State!!! I think I deserve a chance to coach at least a boston college or virginia.

[sl8b]

Agreed. Just like my contract right now at FIU. One of my goals, is 500+ rushing yards each season. The worst rushing team in NCAA last season in real life, Bowling Green, had 754 yards rushing. I would have to average 41 yard rushing per game just to fail that goal. Same thing with the Total Offensive yards. I need to get 2000+ each season. New Mexico had the worst offense last year, and one of the worst teams, and they still managed 3,188 yards of total offense. I had to get 7 passing touchdowns in one season (completed it early in my first season), the lowest ranked team in 2010, was Army with 7 TDs. Same thing with 10+ points per game each season. The worst scoring offense in 2010 was Buffalo with 14.2 PPG.

I just figured it was based on EA assuming everyone plays 5 (or less) minute quarters. IMO, those types of goals should be based on how many minutes the games are whenever it "makes the decision" for goals.

[illwill10]

I like it
BUT, I think there are way too many A prestige coaches. I want to see the Grades spread out more. Especially at the non-AQ. I dont see them coaches leaving because the bigger schools keep their coaches