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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Frank Martin to Miami rumors keep swirling. I guess he's going to lose his best player to graduation, and he's from the Miami area. Probably more mob ties down there than in Manhattan
    Mizzou people are ticked about getting the former Canes coach too. Apparently, the people of Columbia think they can get Brad Stevens or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    I would agree with mors, UConn isn't the superior team but they do have the superior player. Kemba Walker has been unbelievable since the start of the Big East tourney and nobody has been able to find a way to shut him down. I think the game will come down to him. If Butler can find a way to put the clamps on him they win.
    Truthfully, I don't think they have to put the clamps on Kemba, just make him a one man game (like he LOVES to do). WVU "shut" him down by forcing him to be their primary scorer and held him to 35% from the field (he still made 4/7 from three though) and basically forcing him to create off the dribble without anywhere to pass the ball and coming in late to help (neutralizing his pass option or helping off of Oriakhi, Okwandu, and Napier only and forcing them to beat us, which, in the end, worked wonderfully).

    Why teams have been helping off of Lamb so much just boggles my mind. You'd think they'd learn or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Mizzou people are ticked about getting the former Canes coach too. Apparently, the people of Columbia think they can get Brad Stevens or something.
    The people of Coloumbia think they're on a higher pedestal than they actually are. A couple of blowout wins in the Brad Smith days, and they think they've owned us for four decades, oh wait....we've owned them for four decades

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    From Gregg Doyel @ CBS, Shaka Smart is staying at VCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    From Gregg Doyel @ CBS, Shaka Smart is staying at VCU.
    Now that is SURPRISING.

    Face it. VCU is a bad Div 1 coaching job. I would have thought Mizzou; NC State; etc... were/are all better jobs that he could build off of.

    Brad Stevens has a great setup and I could only see him leaving for one of the Blue Blood positions: UCLA; Kansas; Duke; UNC; Kentucky; Indiana.

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    I'm actually not very surprised. Shaka seems like a guy who enjoys where he is with VCU and enjoys his players that he has now. Instead of becoming one of these coaches that jumps ship every 2-3 years for the next best job that comes calling to them, he's showing and proving his loyalty that he has to VCU and his team by staying with them even though he could jump ship to NC State or somewhere else. Some people may think he is an idiot for not taking the cash and "upgrade", but to him, VCU is home. It's where he wants to be and stay and I respect him even more for that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Now that is SURPRISING.

    Face it. VCU is a bad Div 1 coaching job. I would have thought Mizzou; NC State; etc... were/are all better jobs that he could build off of.

    Brad Stevens has a great setup and I could only see him leaving for one of the Blue Blood positions: UCLA; Kansas; Duke; UNC; Kentucky; Indiana.
    I could see him being the successor to Coach K, then I would hate Duke less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    I'm actually not very surprised. Shaka seems like a guy who enjoys where he is with VCU and enjoys his players that he has now. Instead of becoming one of these coaches that jumps ship every 2-3 years for the next best job that comes calling to them, he's showing and proving his loyalty that he has to VCU and his team by staying with them even though he could jump ship to NC State or somewhere else. Some people may think he is an idiot for not taking the cash and "upgrade", but to him, VCU is home. It's where he wants to be and stay and I respect him even more for that decision.

    I'm all for loyalty and it absolutely is his choice to make. I just don't think there is anyway possible for Smart to turn VCU into a national power in basketball.


    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    I could see him being the successor to Coach K, then I would hate Duke less.

    There seem to be two "factions" of the Duke fanbase: (1) K's replacement "must"/will come from inside the Duke family; (2) Duke should hire the best Coach they can find.


    Most seem to believe #1 is most likely. From what I have read/heard unless Dawkins really turns Stanford around the likely replacement for K will be Collins or Wojo (most likely Collins).

    I happen to be in the #2 Camp. I'm also a HUGE fan of Brad Stevens. However, I'm not even sure Stevens would be interested in the Duke job. Stevens may have dreams of turning Butler into the next Duke/Kansas/UCLA/Kentucky/Indiana. Indiana is a basketball crazed state; they have great facilities at Butler and are located in a major metropolitan area. The pieces are there to turn Butler into a great basketball program. They simply need to keep winning and probably leave the Horizon league to get into a better/more competitive conference. I could easily see them slide into the Big 10 or the Big East (of the Missippi) Conference.

    Moreover, if Stevens is going to make Duke "cool" perhaps I should reconsider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    I'm all for loyalty and it absolutely is his choice to make. I just don't think there is anyway possible for Smart to turn VCU into a national power in basketball.





    There seem to be two "factions" of the Duke fanbase: (1) K's replacement "must"/will come from inside the Duke family; (2) Duke should hire the best Coach they can find.


    Most seem to believe #1 is most likely. From what I have read/heard unless Dawkins really turns Stanford around the likely replacement for K will be Collins or Wojo (most likely Collins).

    I happen to be in the #2 Camp. I'm also a HUGE fan of Brad Stevens. However, I'm not even sure Stevens would be interested in the Duke job. Stevens may have dreams of turning Butler into the next Duke/Kansas/UCLA/Kentucky/Indiana. Indiana is a basketball crazed state; they have great facilities at Butler and are located in a major metropolitan area. The pieces are there to turn Butler into a great basketball program. They simply need to keep winning and probably leave the Horizon league to get into a better/more competitive conference. I could easily see them slide into the Big 10 or the Big East (of the Missippi) Conference.

    Moreover, if Stevens is going to make Duke "cool" perhaps I should reconsider.
    What about Capel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    What about Capel?
    by w/in the Duke "family" I guess I should have defined it as having been a player for K AND an Assistant for K. I like Jeff but I don't recall Capel being on the Duke staff.

    I also don't think Quinn Snyder is on the "short list" either.

    The names I typically see from the "family" argument are: (1) Collins; (2) Wojo; (3) Dawkins; (4) Amaker. Although Amaker has sort of fallen off a bit in terms of the Duke fanbase perception recently. My guess is that its probably Collins' job to lose. From what I read/hear he has a pretty big plate in terms of responsibility for an Assistant Coach. But who knows. I do believe K will likely hand pick his successor and want to leave that person in great shape for the next 3-4 years. My gut tells me K has another 6-8 years left in the tank.

    Ironically, Shaka has Jeff's old gig at VCU.

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    What in the world is Quinn Snyder doing now a days?

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    What in the world is Quinn Snyder doing now a days?
    I think he's an assistant coach in the NBA...At least that's what I heard someone say on the radio awhile back.

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    Go Butler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Now that is SURPRISING.

    Face it. VCU is a bad Div 1 coaching job. I would have thought Mizzou; NC State; etc... were/are all better jobs that he could build off of.

    Brad Stevens has a great setup and I could only see him leaving for one of the Blue Blood positions: UCLA; Kansas; Duke; UNC; Kentucky; Indiana.
    I don't think VCU is a BAD coaching position. I think that VCU is a quality programme stuck in a BAD Div 1 conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    I think that VCU is a quality programme stuck in a BAD Div 1 conference.
    A conference with ODU, George Mason, and VCU sure looks decent to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    I'm all for loyalty and it absolutely is his choice to make. I just don't think there is anyway possible for Smart to turn VCU into a national power in basketball.
    Right ... which only matters if that's what he wants to do. I don't think anybody would harbor the thought that VCU could turn into a national power, nor is that the primary goal of every coach.

    I'm not surprised that Smart decided to stay. He doesn't seem the type to cut and run. However, the length of the deal was slightly surprising. An eight-year commitment is a long time.
    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    I could easily see them slide into the Big 10 or the Big East (of the Missippi) Conference.
    TCU's not east of the Mississippi
    And no way in hell Re: Big Ten. No football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    And no way in hell Re: Big Ten. No football.
    This. The Big Ten will never turn into the Big East and such with adding schools for only basketball.

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    You don't have to be a "national power" to have a chance to be great in college basketball. That's what's truly beautiful about the NCAA Tournament. Be great enough to make it in there, and then be great enough to do something with that birth. VCU did that, and, that, along with how incredibly passionate for the game Shaka Smart looks, will do leaps and bounds for their recruiting. This will definitely not be the last time we see VCU deep in the tournament.

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    And down goes Butler in the championship game for a second straight year, one of the worst games I have ever sat through in my life.

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    one of the worst games I have ever sat through in my life.
    THIS.
    Last edited by HWill; 04-04-2011 at 10:35 PM.

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    I'm not going to lie, I barely watched any of it. Butler's games are never pretty, just like WVU's games are never pretty. I didn't have a horse in the race (aka WVU wasn't there) so I decided not to watch. I knew it was going to be a low scoring affair where whoever could get a lead would end up winning it all and, low-and-behold, Connecticut pulled out in front with about 10-12 minutes left and Butler couldn't do anything about it.

    Will be interesting to see if Brad Stevens stays at Butler or moves on to another school in one of the "big boy" leagues.



    In other news, fuck every conference that isn't the Big East (who is still the best conference)!

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