Ahh. Didn't know that.Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn
Ahh. Didn't know that.
So I could technically get at least 3 of my PS4 games before I have a physical system. Hmm.
It's possible. Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed 4, Call of Duty Ghosts, and Watch Dogs are the most likely to have that happen.
Just got another "thank you for pre-ordering" email today from Best Buy Canada. That now makes four updates and again it says November 30th. Come on already and formally announce the date... I need to know I have the pennies in my account.
I think I'll be sad if it's November 30th. But it does give me more time to pay off my games from Gamestop, and maybe even add another one.Just got another "thank you for pre-ordering" email today from Best Buy Canada. That now makes four updates and again it says November 30th. Come on already and formally announce the date... I need to know I have the pennies in my account.
Zero chance of it being that late. There's absolutely no way either one of them miss Black Friday. The fact Amazon says they're going to release games first basically confirms no later than the 2nd week of November. Who's going to buy a game and then wait a month to play it?
I agree with you on the whole they wouldn't want to miss Black Friday, but the gist of Black Friday is getting things at extremely cheap prices. The PS4 and XB1 won't be discounted, so there's not necessarily going to be a bigger rush of people going out solely to get next gen systems. And you gotta remember, it's a worldwide release, so Black Friday would be null in places like Europe and Japan.Zero chance of it being that late. There's absolutely no way either one of them miss Black Friday. The fact Amazon says they're going to release games first basically confirms no later than the 2nd week of November. Who's going to buy a game and then wait a month to play it?
The people who are currently buying games and waiting 4 months to play them, perhaps?Who's going to buy a game and then wait a month to play it?
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
Black Friday is only a US thing but it is becoming an impromptu holiday up here in Canada. I suspect they will have staggered starts all over the world (North America, Europe, Asia, Oceana, etc.). I'm sure Sony is sweating over the amount of pre-orders they have to fill and a staggered stat will greatly help that out. I'm honestly okay with a later date closer to Christmas... it would encourage the wife to pick up Madden and FIFA.
That's different!The people who are currently buying games and waiting 4 months to play them, perhaps?
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
GuiltyThe people who are currently buying games and waiting 4 months to play them, perhaps?
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
Shiiiiiiit.Guilty
You WISH you were only THAT bad. I bet you have games you bought years ago in cellophane.
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
Guilty
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 4 Beta
The dude abides.
I, atleast, PLAY the games I buy (for a few seconds to a few hours) before never touching them again.
Have you taken a look at his trophy list??? You could finish this
before you got to the end of his mostly 0-1% list. Talk about OCD and lack of commitment
I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.
Hell MS is putting trophies on TV shows for the XB1, they might as well do so with books too!
Yeah, I thought the whole 1GB of memory for the OS seemed a little low:
3.5GB of RAM Reserved for OS - 4.5GB available to Game Developers
PlayStation 4 reserves 3.5GB of its 8GB GDDR5 memory for the operating system, leaving 4.5GB of space for game code, according to current PlayStation 4 documentation shown to Digital Foundry by a well-placed development source. However, further sources suggest that an additional 1GB of "flexible memory" may be reclaimed from the OS reservation, based on availability.
Sony's internal docs say that 4.5GB is the baseline amount of guaranteed memory available for game-makers (note the memory usage of the Killzone: Shadow Fall demo) and most likely what the lion's share of launch titles will be using. However, other sources close to Sony indicate that developers can request up to an additional gigabyte of "flexible memory", and use it to boost elements of the game - but only if the background OS can spare it. We're told that incorporating this isn't trivial, and it may well be that to begin with only first-party developers target its usage.
Current PlayStation 4 dev kits have a "Game Memory Budget Mode" in the debug settings featuring two options: normal and large. The normal mode setting confirms that 4.5GB of memory is usable for game applications. The large mode increases this considerably to 5.25GB, but the docs are clear that the extra RAM here is only available for application development, presumably in order to house debugging data. From what we understand, the extra gig of flexible memory appears to work in addition to these allowances.
The news that the PS4's OS reservation is in the same ballpark as Xbox One's equivalent 3GB allocation is sure to surprise many, especially bearing in mind that previously leaked Sony docs have only spoken of a 512MB allocation for the system software - though this information hails from the era where the new PlayStation was slated to ship with only 4GB of memory.
"Current Sony SDK docs say that 4.5GB is the baseline amount of guaranteed memory available for game makers - and most likely what the lion's share of launch titles will be using."
There are many parallels with the Xbox One. Both consoles allocate two Jaguar CPU cores to the operating system, and what sounds like a disproportionately higher level of RAM than one might expect - especially in comparison to PC, where Windows operates perfectly well with less than a gig of memory at its disposal. However, in a world where even the Wii U reserves 50 per cent of its onboard RAM for the operating system, the big bump in PS4's OS allocation is perhaps not completely surprising. The console's leap from 4GB to 8GB has seemingly opened the door for Sony to be much more ambitious about what tasks the PlayStation 4 performs in the background and in parallel with gameplay.
Microsoft has already showcased Xbox One's abilities in this regard, but our sources say that PlayStation 4 is also capable of similar feats, perhaps in a manner more closely resembling that of PS Vita - the game is paused, apps are switched over seamlessly and, once exited, gameplay continues without having to restart the code. The convenience and functionality is undeniable, but it comes at a cost to memory consumption.
As it stands, both next-gen consoles will launch with 8GB of unified memory, but with a significantly diminished amount actually available to games developers. However, a big area of difference between Sony and Microsoft's approaches to OS allocation could come in their future plans for the reserved RAM. A Microsoft insider tells us that the engineers behind the Xbox One specifically chose 3GB in order to allow the background platform to evolve over a ten-year life-cycle - it's very hard to add features if the pool of available RAM is reduced from its initial level. The reserved RAM allocation there is set in stone, and is unlikely to change.
However, sources close to Sony suggest that the PS4 approach is perhaps more flexible - the current allocation in terms of both CPU cores and memory could be reduced once the operating system is complete and then streamlined. In short, while there is no guarantee of change in the future, Sony is at least leaving the door open to the opportunity and the R&D team has experience in reducing the OS footprint - just as it did on PlayStation 3.
In the here and now, the template is now set for the next-gen launch period, and the focus from both platform holders is that while games command the majority of system resources, supplementary services and apps are clearly very important indeed. Microsoft has already set out its stall in this regard - now it remains to be seen what additional features PlayStation 4 brings to the table above and beyond its core gaming functions.
That is just dumb why even botherreally dumb.
PS4 RAM available for games
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/26/35gb-of-playstation-4-ram-reportedly-reserved-for-os
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