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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    And regardless of what your reasoning was, my point still stands. After you calling me and Austin childish and accusing us of "looking for dumb reasons to troll people", like I said, I'm not feeling the least bit charitable to edit my quote of your original post. You posted it, I quoted it while responding to your initial post, that's that. I personally have no reason to take the time out of my evening to go back and edit it.
    ie you are childish and damn proud of it.

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    ie you are childish and damn proud of it.
    The ignore feature, you are doing it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdoughty View Post
    The ignore feature, you are doing it wrong.
    This thread has been gold for getting through a blah Weds night business call.

    And the Carlos Hyde situation is ongoing......... http://collegespun.com/big-ten/ohio-...eillance-tape#

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    what the fuck are you even talking about ? I am not hiding anything. I'm not denying anything. I merely decided that if its some sort of security problem for my email that you should change it. And you need to work on how you address me and type your constant facepalm insults. You aren't addressing me in an adult fashion and constantly act like a teenager in your posts. That's how I interpret them and I am a mature intellectually sound adult. 3 years and you still type like an insulting child for a guy in his late 20s. You still think like a child. No, I am not hiding or denying anything. Just pming that you need to change it. It doesn't prove or disprove anything about me or intent. Stop belaboring something that isn't even an issue.

    Now ,do you want to be adult and be helpful or do you need to continue with your childish pseudo intellectual rants ?

    Fine I may have done something not quite right but if you need to insult me like children because of it or aren't intellectually sound enough to understand I cant get jokes like you are just kidding with me from flat words on a screen instead of being kind and helpful...forget it, you're just more dumb middle America childish idiots on a gaming forum. You have no clue who you are addressing yet you continue to do it in a childish fashion

    smooth and Austin are now on iggy
    Hey, this is funny . Smooth kind??? Smooth helpful?? Have you read his coaching thread?? He has no time to be helpful .

    Far as being on Iggy??? I will admit to clicking on a certain English major that i put there awhile back..........sometimes one can't resist

    Oh and.................

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    Let us continue with the emasculation of the American male. We have sissified him everywhere else, why not football. This is also one of many reasons to laugh at the Almost Competitive Conference.

    http://tracking.si.com/2013/07/22/so...y-hit-ejected/

    Big 10/12/14 gets it http://www.freep.com/article/2013072...ney-brady-hoke
    Last edited by SCClassof93; 07-25-2013 at 11:43 AM.

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    Oh give me a fucking break. That hit was clean. Looking at the replays, his head was up, his facemask and the front of his helmet hit in the chest. It may not have been a fundamentally perfect tackle, with the head to the side and the shoulder pads in the chest/gut, but it was still a perfectly legal tackle.

    It was just a very hard hit (Clowney coming at full speed, Smith pretty much in quicksand having just received the handoff), with a possible ricochet of Clowney's helmet bouncing up after planting Smith in the chest, causing Smith's helmet to come off (if it can even be contributed to Clowney's helmet at all). To call that worthy of an ejection, when hits like that have been perfectly legal, and based on the rules, ARE legal, is fucking stupid.

    If hitting in the chest with your facemask/front of your helmet in the middle of all the action of a play is "hitting too high", where the fuck are they supposed to hit? Chest to thighs is fair game when tackling. Just let the fucking kids play. All these fucktards trying to turn this game into fucking patty cake is ruining the sport. I already hardly watch the NFL anymore outside of Broncos games, due to all the goddamn rules and neutering of the sport. College is quickly turning into the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Oh give me a fucking break. That hit was clean. Looking at the replays, his head was up, his facemask and the front of his helmet hit in the chest. It may not have been a fundamentally perfect tackle, with the head to the side and the shoulder pads in the chest/gut, but it was still a perfectly legal tackle.

    It was just a very hard hit (Clowney coming at full speed, Smith pretty much in quicksand having just received the handoff), with a possible ricochet of the helmet bouncing up after planting Smith in the chest, causing Smith's helmet to come off (if it can even be contributed to Clowney's helmet at all. To call that worthy of an ejection, when hits like that have been perfectly legal, and based on the rules, ARE legal, is fucking stupid.
    Yes, but the a she she official thinks it is bad based on the new rule and far too rough for the girly men he officiates over. Anyone with eyes can see the crown is not what JD hit with but alas the new rule will give these clowns so much more power over the game............if it looks bad............it is........

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    The problem of why the hit "looked" bad to the ACC was because Smith, the RB, is only 5'8", so Clowney being 6'5" or whatever he is can only get so low anyway. The hit was legit, Hoke appreciated the hit for what it was, and Smith has said the same. It wasn't cheap, it wasn't blind, it was a solid, clean hit.
    And y'all should recognize how quickly that little RB popped up, because Smith was as tough as they come as he blocked better than guys 100lbs heavier throughout his career.

    Some of the concern with the rules is players going too low now and seeing a rise in leg/knee injuries......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    The problem of why the hit "looked" bad to the ACC was because Smith, the RB, is only 5'8", so Clowney being 6'5" or whatever he is can only get so low anyway. The hit was legit, Hoke appreciated the hit for what it was, and Smith has said the same. It wasn't cheap, it wasn't blind, it was a solid, clean hit.
    And y'all should recognize how quickly that little RB popped up, because Smith was as tough as they come as he blocked better than guys 100lbs heavier throughout his career.

    Some of the concern with the rules is players going too low now and seeing a rise in leg/knee injuries......
    Pretty soon it'll be illegal to tackle at all, we'll be watching them play two-hand tap. Defensive players now risk ejection if they tackle too high in the chest and the crew thinks it was an illegal hit. If you go too low, the injury risk in the legs and knees increases, so it'll only be a matter of time before you can't tackle below the thigh. Then they'll find some other reason why tackling in the gut, waist or thigh should be forbidden.

    Like I said, I already can barely watch NFL anymore, other than only Broncos games, because of how much they've neutered the sport left and right with rules. Other than Denver's regular season games and their one game in the playoffs, the only NFL action I watched last year was the Super Bowl, that was it. Never watched any Sunday/Monday Night Football games, didn't watch any of the CBS/Fox games during Sunday afternoons, I just didn't care.

    Unfortunately, it looks like college football is going the same way. I wonder how many mores years I'll get before I lose the enjoyment of the sport and the desire to watch it due to all the neutering.

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    That kid for Michigan popped right back up, no doubt. Football has ALWAYS been a contact sport with the risk of being SERIOUSLY hurt. Don't want to take the risk? Do something else, easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Pretty soon it'll be illegal to tackle at all, we'll be watching them play two-hand tap. Defensive players now risk ejection if they tackle too high in the chest and the crew thinks it was an illegal hit. If you go too low, the injury risk in the legs and knees increases, so it'll only be a matter of time before you can't tackle below the thigh. Then they'll find some other reason why tackling in the gut, waist or thigh should be forbidden.

    Like I said, I already can barely watch NFL anymore, other than only Broncos games, because of how much they've neutered the sport left and right with rules. Other than Denver's regular season games and their one game in the playoffs, the only NFL action I watched last year was the Super Bowl, that was it. Never watched any Sunday/Monday Night Football games, didn't watch any of the CBS/Fox games during Sunday afternoons, I just didn't care.

    Unfortunately, it looks like college football is going the same way. I wonder how many mores years I'll get before I lose the enjoyment of the sport and the desire to watch it due to all the neutering.
    Not me, I will be done watching. Been done with the NFL for years (for other reasons) and will be done with college if this crap gets out of hand.

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    Two points that I thought were fun to talk through about the contact rules stuff going on:

    1. Both Hines Ward and JoePa that said if you want to fix the helmet-to-helmet hits and other cheapshots, take the facemasks off and/or resort to old-school helmets, like the old days.

    2. A former Longhorn DB that does radio now was ranting that football in 20 years will literally be flag football, since they are marketing offense and QBs these days anyway.

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    Look it's coming folks brace for it. Football is not going to be Football in about 5-10 years. Honestly I wouldn't be surprise if it basically became flag and/or two hand touch at some point. The concussion lawsuits are going to kill this game that everyone loves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Look it's coming folks brace for it. Football is not going to be Football in about 5-10 years. Honestly I wouldn't be surprise if it basically became flag and/or two hand touch at some point. The concussion lawsuits are going to kill this game that everyone loves.
    Thankfully I still have golf, hiking, snow shoeing and boating

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCClassof93 View Post
    Thankfully I still have golf, hiking, snow shoeing and boating
    Nah liberals are gonna ban that too. All those cause global warming, harm endangered animals or some other cause du jour of which I'm not aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Nah liberals are gonna ban that too. All those cause global warming, harm endangered animals or some other cause du jour of which I'm not aware.
    Yeah, golf and boating maybe.........but they love some hiking and snow shoeing.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Look it's coming folks brace for it. Football is not going to be Football in about 5-10 years. Honestly I wouldn't be surprise if it basically became flag and/or two hand touch at some point. The concussion lawsuits are going to kill this game that everyone loves.
    I'll have a man cave with authentic football helmets displayed like gladiator armor at a museum if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCClassof93 View Post
    That kid for Michigan popped right back up, no doubt. Football has ALWAYS been a contact sport with the risk of being SERIOUSLY hurt. Don't want to take the risk? Do something else, easy.
    A LOT of players share the same sentiment. They don't really want the sport pussified (except Tom Brady), they know what they're getting into. They know what they signed up for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    A LOT of players share the same sentiment. They don't really want the sport pussified (except Tom Brady), they know what they're getting into. They know what they signed up for.
    ?

    You talking about this?
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...eeds-to-change

    Lobbying for calls.......so does that make Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James wusses too? What about all the RBs tugging on their facemasks asking for calls?

    Or perhaps Ed Reed is a little girl for whining?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUGW1Myk0Jk

    Gamesmanship seems to me, which is different than asking for the game to be pussified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    ?

    You talking about this?
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...eeds-to-change

    Lobbying for calls.......so does that make Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and Lebron James wusses too? What about all the RBs tugging on their facemasks asking for calls?

    Or perhaps Ed Reed is a little girl for whining?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUGW1Myk0Jk

    Gamesmanship seems to me, which is different than asking for the game to be pussified.
    Should be obvious..........if they were not they would be on the gridiron

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