Hell I'm getting a free smart blu ray player for my 10th anniversary with Allstate
Hell I'm getting a free smart blu ray player for my 10th anniversary with Allstate
Sony lost so much this past generation because no one bought it for several months before they finally dropped it to a reasonable price. I mean, you're going to launch at $600 when the competitor launched a year ago and is selling for $400?
I realize Sony has the lead over Microsoft world wide, but Microsoft just completely dominates them in America. If Sony wants to buck that trend, they need to price it right, launch first, and have a really nice selection of launch games. They also better beef up their online, because, in case they haven't noticed, Americans love features like Cross Game Chat and Parties so that they can talk to their friends easily.
I think it'll be between $350 and $450 personally. Knowing Sony, you'll get a system with fairly low storage capacity and it'll be $400.
I know nothing yet re: HDD sizes but any guesses as to whether the PS4 HDD will be the same as the PS3 so that if you want to take a larger HDD from your PS3 it will easily convert over to the PS4?
I could really see it going either way. On one hand, you have to know that everyone loved the ability to upgrade hard drives, however Sony may also look over and see how much MS made directly on first-party peripherals and want a chunk of that for themselves. If I had to guess though, I'd bet we'd be able to upgrade our HDDs with off-the-shelf hardware.Originally Posted by CLW
I'd imagine so. I don't see why they would change it around. It just uses a 2.5" laptop hard drive, right? Being able to use any hard drive was probably well received among PS3 owners, so I'd like to think they're smart enough to keep that ability around.
HOWEVER, they pulled the same shit with the Vita that Microsoft did with the 360 hard drives. Instead of just using a standard SD cards, Sony made their own memory tech and charged an arm and a leg for it. The largest size is 32GB and that retails for $100. ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS for 32GB! A quick google search and I can get a regular 32GB SD card from Newegg for $21. Microsoft did the same thing with the 360 hard drive. You can only use their model, and they currently charge $130 for 320GB. By comparison, you can easily get a 1TB drive for that price.
Read that earlier and almost threw up. Microsoft, no offense, but that interface only works for touchscreen. Having to maneuver through that thing with a mouse or a controller is not too great, not to mention it's a massive eyesore. So ugly.
Yeah it's 50/50 in my mind right now. There is extra $ to be made for sure for those that want/need to upgrade their PS4 later down the line. On the other hand, the convenience factor is also nice for the consumer. Given that Sony most recently did with the Vita we may be SOL. I'll miss you 1TB HDD.
Interesting discussion re: the whole online only "issue"
On the topic of the harddrive sizes, it's entirely determined by the manufacture costs. If they have a large amount of those already in stock or still have access to them cheaply, then they most definitely will keep the same size. If there is any reason for them to change the size of the harddrives in the consoles, it'll be to cut down on the costs of the system.
As for the video above, I completely agree. If it doesn't happen this time, it will with the next consoles. It's the perfect DRM because it's unhackable. It's intelligent to do online only because it pushes the market to have competitive pricing for games to help fill the void of used games.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/07/game...re-restricted/
LOL, Gamestop amuses me. Console Makers might lose some customers but the only think diminished would be Gamestop.
No more annoying Sales Associates telling you that have it used when you walk up with a new game.
No more opened copies of new games as they would have to fear an employee taking it home playing it and making it unsellable. (I hate when I get a new game that has been opened)
Yeah Gamestop is basically the walking dead. They either die in 2013 or they die in approx. 2020 when the next-next gen goes to complete digital.
I'm not worried about my Internet going out for minutes, hours, or days ... I'm worried about the occasional burp or flicker (which seems to happen nightly in my current living conditions) that would do more than just kill a multi-player session, it would kill my entire console usage.
If Sony went to an always-online DRM (doesn't affect me at all if M$ does it), then I'd be strongly tempted to build the best computer I could afford and just play EVE Online day in and day out. Though I have plenty of PS3 games to finish too.
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Microsoft’s next-gen Xbox to reportedly include Siri-like voice controls
Xbox 360 video game and home entertainment console already supports voice commands thanks to the Kinect controller, but it looks like we may see the company’s next-generation console ship with dramatically improved voice support. The Verge reported on Thursday that Microsoft’s upcoming Xbox refresh will support “wake on voice, natural language controls, and speech-to-text,” citing claims from multiple unnamed sources when reporting the details.
The enhanced voice support will supposedly allow users to speak commands naturally as they do with Siri on Apple (AAPL) devices. Microsoft’s next Xbox is expected to launch ahead of the holidays this year featuring a 1.6GHz eight-core AMD CPU, D3D11.x 800MHz graphics and 8GB of RAM.
http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-next...WxhdGVk;_ylv=3
As Sony Computer Entertainment warms up its blue lighting and double-checks its playlist for February 20th, one unnamed SCE official says that the PlayStation 4 will act as more of a home entertainment hub than what we've seen in the past. They added, according to the Nikkei, that the main selling point won't be the rumored eight-core AMD64 CPU or other hardware specs, but how it opens up new styles of play -- something Nintendo is also focusing on. Sony is going to push the new console as a home entertainment "nerve center," with a focus on the hardware's ability to connect and share to mobile devices -- the rival that's pulling gamers away from traditional consoles. Edge had previously mentioned the possibility of a dedicated share button on the next-gen controller, though that remains a product of the rumor mill at the moment. No discussion on any Gaikai-powered cloud gaming just yet, but following its unveiling later this month, the report states that the new PlayStation should launch before the end of the year. A bit of a shame, then, that it's still only February.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/08/s...lshare_twitter
Microsoft and Sony both need to pull their heads of their asses and realize they're developing GAME consoles, not entertainment hubs.
Looks like the story of this current gen is going to continue onto the next. Nintendo does something that really catches on, Microsoft copies it and gets on the success to a degree, and then Sony copies them both and ends up losing a ton of money because the fad has passed. Well, I don't see the Wii U catching on at all, but it's still the same general idea.
I disagree. Yes while most here are more "hardcore" MS and Sony are both looking to grab that "casual" gamer and bring him/her in. I also like some of the aspects of the "entertainment" aspects of my PS3 (being able to play/rent/buy movies; use it to play songs on it; etc...). If they "beef" that up while still making a quality gaming console I won't complain.
Look at Kinect. It started amazingly well. What's it doing now? Jack squat(which I called as soon as it came out by the way
The Vita is another example. That was Sony's way of trying to get people that game on their phones to buy into their product. I don't think I have to speak on how just bad sales for the Vita have been so far, but when virtually no 3rd party publisher is willing to put their game on your device, you've got trouble.
As for the entertainment hub aspect, that's fine. The only problem is, from what I've seen, once they start going down that avenue, that becomes the focus. Do more people watch movies or play games? Do more people like TV shows or games? How many people like music compared to games? The answer is overwhelmingly in favor of the entertainment aspects, so the allure is to put all your eggs into that basket and focus on that. Microsoft has started doing that the past 2 or 3 years. They've realized that they can rely on 3rd party support, release one major exclusive, and then rely on Live subscriptions that are required to access all the content to bring in the revenue.
It's a strategy that works, but quite frankly stinks for the people that just want the thing to play high quality games.
Dude, you need to realize that, for most people, they use their consoles to watch things on their TVs more than they do to play games. For either console to actually be successful, they MUST continue to integrate those things into the consoles.
The days of video game consoles being just about video games is over. Cellphones, tablets, and iPads are cutting into that market QUITE a bit more than most video game companies are willing to admit (just listen to or read anything reporting about it from a business perspective - for instance, Sony MUST make a BIG splash with this coming console or you could actually see them having to pull out of the console market after the upcoming console generation; yes, their revenue stream from the PS3 and Vita is THAT bad).
There's a reason why this last console generation lasted so long (2004 to 2013 - and, no, I don't count the Wii or WiiU in this; they aren't generation gap consoles) compared to older generational gaps (5 years (2000 to 2005) for PS2 to 360 - 5 years (1995 to 2000) for PS1 to PS2) - 6 years (1989 to 1995) for Genesis to PS1 - and 4 years (1985 to 1989) for NES to Genesis). They had to try to get as big of an install base as possible to recoup the initial losses from their respective consoles for this generation (Microsoft lost something like $1 billion for their Xbox 360 heat fuck up and Sony didn't make money off of the PS3 until something in the neighborhood of 2 or 3 years after the launch of the system (Q3 of 2008 if I'm not mistaken)).
I agree with this only the game publishers care about what the hardcore gamer wants and even they only care to an extent, MS and Sony already have your business they want that casual person who will only buy it if it does something else and that something else is an "entertainment" hub.
Hardcore gamers bitch and complain but you know 90% still buy the stuff they are complaining about game after game. Don't let the internet fool you IOU with people saying they are not buying certain items, these people (developers and Console makers (except Sony apparently)) make money and they are pretty damn good at it.
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