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    Here's an article that explains all the politics that led to the DISASTER of a season just had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Here's an article that explains all the politics that led to the DISASTER of a season just had.

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    I'm glad the First Bank of Nebraska was able to help USM pay off Johnson. I realize an extra home game brings in significant money so NU will still make $ on the deal, but basically agreeing to pay off a fired coach for another school for $2.1M? I think USM got the better end of the deal here, though I'm sure some will (rightfully) be upset that they lost a marquee home game.

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    monte kiffin is gone!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp View Post
    monte kiffin is gone!!!!
    You just have to make it through getting embarrassed in a bowl game.

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    Not even 6 months after the NCAA changed the rules regarding 6-7 teams who lose their CCG, Georgia Tech files and gets awarded a waiver by the NCAA. Great. So someone of either probably Western Kentucky, Ohio or Bowling Green are going to get fucked out of a bowl slot all thanks to Georgia Tech getting a waiver to go bowling at 6-7, and the NCAA proves they have no fucking backbone to enforce rules, especially rules that they JUST FUCKING IMPLEMENTED!

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    And the "big boys" get favoritism once again. Gotta love the NCAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    And the "big boys" get favoritism once again. Gotta love the NCAA.
    Yep. And it's not that I think "oh, well Bowling Green or Western Kentucky would just absolutely whoop ass against whoever they would face in Georgia Tech's place", it's simply this. If it was Bowling Green or Ohio that was requesting the waiver instead of Georgia Tech, do you honestly think or believe that the NCAA would actually grant that waiver?

    Especially now that there are over 70 teams that are eligible for a bowl slot, thus making a 6-7 Georgia Tech team not needed or necessary to fill a bowl slot that would otherwise be unable to be filled and by the VERY rules that the NCAA created and amended not even 6 months ago that technically make Georgia Tech inelgible due to there being other teams in front of them that are 6-6 that ARE eligible and could fill those slots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Yep. And it's not that I think "oh, well Bowling Green or Western Kentucky would just absolutely whoop ass against whoever they would face in Georgia Tech's place", it's simply this. If it was Bowling Green or Ohio that was requesting the waiver instead of Georgia Tech, do you honestly think or believe that the NCAA would actually grant that waiver?

    Especially now that there are over 70 teams that are eligible for a bowl slot, thus making a 6-7 Georgia Tech team not needed or necessary to fill a bowl slot that would otherwise be unable to be filled and by the VERY rules that the NCAA created and amended not even 6 months ago that technically make Georgia Tech inelgible due to there being other teams in front of them that are 6-6 that ARE eligible and could fill those slots?
    It's sad, but, that's the bullshit that you get from the Bowl game system instead of a large playoff. Give me a 16 or 24 team playoff and I'll show you some of the best damn football the NCAA has ever seen. Think March Madness is awesome, imagine that with teams like Boise State the past 2 or 3 years, or Hawaii a few years back, or Utah before they were in the Pac-12 several years ago. The cinderella teams would be AMAZING in a large playoff format for college football. But, no, we have to hold onto bowl games that fuck the little guy and make VERY little money (or none) for 80% of the team that go to them (WVU, for example, in the Orange Bowl last year LOST $250,000, even though they won the god damn thing).

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    While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

    If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
    If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

    While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).

    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Hawaii a few years back
    Yes, Hawai'i getting smashed by Georgia would have made a great first round matchup.

    March Madness is a celebration of underdogs that, more often than not, is won by the big schools. The FCS playoffs are the same way. I have no reason to believe that a 16 or 24 team FBS playoff would be any different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

    If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
    If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

    While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).

    Yes, Hawai'i getting smashed by Georgia would have made a great first round matchup.

    March Madness is a celebration of underdogs that, more often than not, is won by the big schools. The FCS playoffs are the same way. I have no reason to believe that a 16 or 24 team FBS playoff would be any different.
    Butler in two straight Championship games would beg to differ. Kentucky and Duke may have won those, but when you have stories like Northern Iowa trouncing Kansas and Duke losing to whoever the hell they lost to as a #2 seed, talk about some seriously exciting and compelling basketball. How is a December 16 team playoff going to be any different?

    You start it the weekend after the conference championships (none of this bullshit of waiting a month to play the final game) with 4 games on Friday (Noon, 3:30pm, 7:00pm, and 10:30pm games) and 4 games on Saturday (same as before). Then, you have the next 4 matchups the following weekend (Friday 7:00pm and 10:30pm games and Saturday 7:00pm and 10:30pm games) followed by the Final Four on the following Saturday (7:00pm and 10:30pm again) with the Championship game two weeks after that in the beginning of January or the second week of January on Saturday again (7:00pm primetime or earlier so as not to interfere with NFL Playoff games).

    The amount of money that would be generated would be ASTRONOMICAL and, with four big conferences, they could work out a revenue sharing setup so that each conference that has a team make the playoffs gets a certain share of the money with the conferences making the final four and championship game getting a larger share (gotta have some bullshit in there for the SEC snobs to take advantage of).

    It boggles my mind sometimes that something like this hasn't happened yet, but then I remember how the Bowl Games are just a giant money grab by a select few (the ones that run the fuckin' things that have NO NCAA police on how they're done) while the teams are the ones that actually lose the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    While I understand the "THAT'S BULLSHIT" response ... consider ...

    If North Carolina was eligible for the postseason, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.
    If Miami had not self-punished and given itself a dumbass bowl ban, Georgia Tech would not be playing in the CCG. Georgia Tech would be eligible for a bowl at 6-6.

    While I agree with Smooth that the NCAA is showing no backbone in this circumstance, I also think it's bull that GT finds itself in this position in the first place. So I'm okay with a waiver. In fact, I think all CCG losers should be considered at 6-7 as if they were 6-6 (or, if there's a 6-6 team in the CCG, maybe we should just hand the title to the deserving champion of the other division and not even play it).
    I agree with you there, that yes, there are some special circumstances here with North Carolina being ineligible and and Miami making themselves ineligible, so that put Georgia Tech in an unusual position and they would have been fine at 6-6 otherwise. For me, it's not so much Georgia Tech that I have a problem with, but more the NCAA, which it appears we at least on a base level agree.

    After a bunch of stuff last year with UCLA getting in at 6-7, and then the NCAA going and specifically changing the rules and changing order of eligiblity for bowl games just 6 months ago, the NCAA is basically already turning it's back on it's own newly changed rules and essentially showing that they don't have the backbone to stand up and say "no" to a power conference school in something like this.

    And again, just on a personal opinion and neutral viewpoint, I truly honestly do not believe the NCAA would have granted such a waiver for someone like Ohio or Bowling Green, or whoever from the MAC, had they been in a similar position. I suppose we'll never truly know until someone from the MAC or C-USA end up in a similar position, but, maybe it's because I've become so jaded over the years from the NCAA's decisions, I just feel that a MAC or C-USA team would not get the waiver granted where as someone from the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 or SEC will each time it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Butler in two straight Championship games would beg to differ. Kentucky and Duke may have won those, but when you have stories like Northern Iowa trouncing Kansas and Duke losing to whoever the hell they lost to as a #2 seed, talk about some seriously exciting and compelling basketball. How is a December 16 team playoff going to be any different?
    If you look over the long haul, across the board, those kinds of upsets are rare and infrequent. That was my main point. Plus, in a 16-team tournament, that level of "upset" doesn't even exist. Sure, the #15 ranked school beating the #2 ranked school (in this case, Oregon State beating Alabama) would be a shock, but not a Butler level shock, agreed?


    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    I truly honestly do not believe the NCAA would have granted such a waiver for someone like Ohio or Bowling Green, or whoever from the MAC, had they been in a similar position. I suppose we'll never truly know until someone from the MAC or C-USA end up in a similar position, but, maybe it's because I've become so jaded over the years from the NCAA's decisions, I just feel that a MAC or C-USA team would not get the waiver granted where as someone from the ACC, Big Ten, Pac-12 or SEC will each time it happens.
    I would like to think that a MAC or CUSA team would have been granted a waiver in the exact same circumstances. But you're right that we'll never know.
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    I think the "system" is just plain broken, it's funny that each year there is a National Champion but almost all could have a footnote.

    Each year some team is ban for some reason or another, and they go undefeated or have a really good year, if they weren't banned they would change the entire make-up of the bowls.

    I.E. this year it would be Notre Dame vs Ohio St...but NOT!

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    Ooops

    From Bleacher Report:

    5-Star LB recruit Reuben Foster, who got an Auburn tattoo over the summer, has decommitted from Auburn.


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    Idiot. That's why tattoos are dumb (unless they're on hot chicks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigemaggs99 View Post
    I think the "system" is just plain broken, it's funny that each year there is a National Champion but almost all could have a footnote.

    Each year some team is ban for some reason or another, and they go undefeated or have a really good year, if they weren't banned they would change the entire make-up of the bowls.
    Very, very rarely has there been a team on probation that would have significantly affected the National Title game.

    And of course it's broken, that's why we have a playoff coming.
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    Mike Vrabel is more badass (or just dumber) than your assistants!

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    Pretty cool story (especially when most of the stories about players are bad):

    Virginia Tech's Antone Exum gave 3 kids he met at Best Buy a shopping spree instead of spending the Russell Athletic Bowl swag on himself.

    Details: http://ble.ac/WRAYnv

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Pretty cool story (especially when most of the stories about players are bad):

    Virginia Tech's Antone Exum gave 3 kids he met at Best Buy a shopping spree instead of spending the Russell Athletic Bowl swag on himself.

    Details: http://ble.ac/WRAYnv
    Great story!

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