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    MTSU to CUSA confirmed... press conference tomorrow morning.

    Personally I don't see where the benefit is unless maybe more money from a TV contract or something.

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    So wil the Sun Belt entertain the thought of Idaho and New Mexico State, even if they are much farther west than North Texas is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    So wil the Sun Belt entertain the thought of Idaho and New Mexico State, even if they are much farther west than North Texas is?
    Speculation that CUSA wants NMSU though apparently UTEP doesn't want NMSU (they're just across the border from each other). I think if we add anyone it will be either App State or NMSU... personally though I'd rather neither but that's just me. Speculation as well that FAU is next to head to CUSA and possibly WKU. I wouldn't mind giving up FAU, though having Florida for recruiting never hurts.

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    All but confirmed... FAU to CUSA. Would rather give up them than give up WKU.

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    Wow. The dominoes are falling into place. Interesting that Louisville gave up on their oral fixation of going to the Big 12.

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    Now WKU???? Starting to sound like it.

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    Ignore that... someone posting a tweet from an hour ago before FAU dropped.

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    Mountain West=New WAC. ACC=New Big East. Big East=New CUSA. CUSA=New Sunbelt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    MTSU to CUSA confirmed... press conference tomorrow morning.

    Personally I don't see where the benefit is unless maybe more money from a TV contract or something.
    Going after whatever little market share they have in Nashville,

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    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    Going after whatever little market share they have in Nashville,
    What I don't get is, don't these conferences or TV deal makers (ESPN?) realize that these schools have little to no market presence? I mean sure, MTSU is 30 minutes from Nashville, but anyone in Nashville pays attention to Tennessee or Vanderbilt. Same with Tulane to Big East... everyone in New Orleans pays attention to LSU. It's actually quite pitiful watching these programs in major markets that have horrible attendance... just look at FIU, FAU, MTSU & UNT. I guarantee their actual attendance draw is under 15k (FIU is probably closer to under 5k) each whereas Arkansas State is will average 25k with a 22k+ crowd this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    What I don't get is, don't these conferences or TV deal makers (ESPN?) realize that these schools have little to no market presence? I mean sure, MTSU is 30 minutes from Nashville, but anyone in Nashville pays attention to Tennessee or Vanderbilt. Same with Tulane to Big East... everyone in New Orleans pays attention to LSU. It's actually quite pitiful watching these programs in major markets that have horrible attendance... just look at FIU, FAU, MTSU & UNT. I guarantee their actual attendance draw is under 15k (FIU is probably closer to under 5k) each whereas Arkansas State is will average 25k with a 22k+ crowd this weekend.
    Yeah. Just take a look at the Superdome in a Tulane game.


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    Look its pretty clear we are headed for 4 "Super" Conferences. To me it's just a question of whether the "Big XII" or the "ACC" survives to go along with the B1G, Pac and SEC. The funny thing about all this to me is that when football is banned (my estimation is 10-20 years) and everyone gets their "tv" from the net all of this will be for not and we will probably do this all over again.

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    WKU & NMSU supposedly up next for CUSA

    That leaves the Sun Belt with (football):
    Arkansas State
    UL Lafayette
    UL Monroe
    Troy
    South Alabama
    Texas State
    Georgia State


    My bet, we look to Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Sam Houston State as replacements. In an ideal world, we'd look at USM or the like but they won't be defecting from CUSA anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    WKU & NMSU supposedly up next for CUSA

    That leaves the Sun Belt with (football):
    Arkansas State
    UL Lafayette
    UL Monroe
    Troy
    South Alabama
    Texas State
    Georgia State


    My bet, we look to Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Sam Houston State as replacements. In an ideal world, we'd look at USM or the like but they won't be defecting from CUSA anytime soon.
    We suck so hard, we're relegated to Sun Belt status......and we're so bad, we'd probably be just the 4th best team. Before his disaster of a season, a bad season was a mediocre one. Now everything about our program has changed.

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    why the hell are there still conferences at this point? i'm surprised more schools havent tried to go in notre dame's direction and get their own private network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Look its pretty clear we are headed for 4 "Super" Conferences.
    I would agree with that, except that a 14-team conference is a scheduling nightmare. A 16-team conference is a scheduling armageddon. That's the only thing I see stopping the 4 16-team conference idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp View Post
    i'm surprised more schools havent tried to go in notre dame's direction and get their own private network.
    Notre Dame doesn't have a private network, they have an exclusive contract. Because of the other deals in place, I don't think there are any entities out there that could offer an Ohio State or Alabama the deal that Notre Dame has. Look at BYU's comparatively pathetic deal with ESPN. Granted, BYU is not a school, but they are the only real major other independent out there.

    Look at the Longhorn Network if you want an example of why following Notre Dame's path will not be an immediate success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I would agree with that, except that a 14-team conference is a scheduling nightmare. A 16-team conference is a scheduling armageddon. That's the only thing I see stopping the 4 16-team conference idea.

    Notre Dame doesn't have a private network, they have an exclusive contract. Because of the other deals in place, I don't think there are any entities out there that could offer an Ohio State or Alabama the deal that Notre Dame has. Look at BYU's comparatively pathetic deal with ESPN. Granted, BYU is not a school, but they are the only real major other independent out there.

    Look at the Longhorn Network if you want an example of why following Notre Dame's path will not be an immediate success.
    Also, how truly viable would those networks be? Either you're going to just have the network in your home area, where you're really not reaching any new screens. So you'd have to expand out. If it was "a la cart" with team networks, I would never pick up the Hoosier Network, or Ball State Network or whatever. Even Toledo and Bowling Green, as much as I enjoy watching them play, I doubt I'd be willing to pay extra to have their networks. Same if they were to try and force it onto standard cable packages, I'm not gonna just sit quietly by while my cable bill goes up because Indiana wants to force their private network on cable companies here in NW Ohio. Even Toledo and Bowling Green I'd be against, at least in terms for forcing their way on the lineups and raising bills.

    Then you face the recruiting issue. Why the major schools already have a recruiting advantage, that gap in advantage would widen even more. The major schools would have a greater chance of forcing their way onto a channel lineup or better chance of being willingly subscribed to by people vs. that of Ball State or Eastern Michigan. Just look at NW Ohio. Who would be the most popular teams when it comes to channel subscriptions? Ohio State. Michigan. Michigan State. Indiana (maybe). Notre Dame. Good luck to the smaller schools around here getting on TV (or national TV for that matter) and possibly having any chance of swaying or stealing a top player in the nation.

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    Handy page for tracking changes and when they'll be happening...
    http://www.athlonsports.com/college-...ng-all-changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I would agree with that, except that a 14-team conference is a scheduling nightmare. A 16-team conference is a scheduling armageddon. That's the only thing I see stopping the 4 16-team conference idea.
    Actually its EASY. Two 8 Team divisions. In football you play ONLY the 7 teams in your division (no cross division games). Top team from each division meet in Conference Championship. Each team is free to schedule their own 5 game non-conference schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Actually its EASY. Two 8 Team divisions. In football you play ONLY the 7 teams in your division (no cross division games). Top team from each division meet in Conference Championship. Each team is free to schedule their own 5 game non-conference schedule.


    no. 2 divisions of 8 need to have 7 interdivision games AND 2 cross division games. otherwise, you'll see every sec team's ooc schedule be like idaho, north texas, wku, south alabama, and some fcs team. that right there, means they only need 1 conference win to be bowl eligible. every team in that conference could go to a bowl then.

    a 16 team conference needs a 9 game conference schedule.

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