Yeah, I've known that about the SG run game so this season I've added a fair amount of under center stuff and even that doesn't get me anywhere. Toussaint had 32 carries for 79 yards against Michigan State and most of that was from under center formations, single back formations.Originally Posted by Oneback
LOL, I was just looking at my stats and MSU actually shut me down running too. 17 for 46 yards.
Other CPU games
23 for 113
21 for 86
35 for 105
Here's my RB stats for this season:
Opponent Car Yds Avg Ole Miss 21 65 3.10 Notre Dame 16 18 1.13 Akron 30 103 3.43 USC 32 97 3.03 Oregon St. 38 203 5.34 Michigan St. 36 85 2.36 Total 173 571 3.30
For ND & Akron, Toussaint was out.
You just have to stick with the running game. If you run it right and vary your playcalling, you will have a variety of backs with carries and stats. If you look at teams stats in real life there isn't just a main back with the majority of the carries in spread SG running system. It relies on keeping the defense spread out and tired and taking advantage of your athletes/speed advantage.
Going back to where I started my offense, look at WVU stats with Pat White, Steve Slaton, and Noel Devine (or other RB they had). The majority of the games slaton would have 15 carries, White around 15 carries, and the other RB about 10. Same thing with Oregon, the carries would be split between LaMichael James, Kenjon Barner, and last year De'Anthony Thomas. You will rarely see one sole RB carry the ball 25-30 times a game consistently.
Sometimes it will be a slow start until the defense wears out in the 2nd half. I noticed that in my games this year, they play out like Oregon's 2 seasons before. Slow starts then in the 2nd half my offense takes off. I didn't change anything the plays just seem to work better, may be defensive fatigue. But if you don't have any big plays you will struggle. This offense kind of relies on big plays. You can sustain drives with mid yardage runs, but unless you have the big plays your RB won't get his yards. It will be hard to run a spread running game with a RB with less than 90 SPD or ACC unless you are a power dive type of team. 90 is actually low for this type of offense. You will have to work to get consistent yards with a RB that slow. The majority of the games I have played even when my run game has struggled, my RB's and QB's average around 5 YPC.
Variety is also your friend. All of the plays look the same, but only you know what play you are running. I can run 5-7 plays from one formation and all of them have the same look the first 2-3 steps until the play develops...you have to keep the defense off balance.
Look at Shotgun 4WR Trio for example. HB Off Tackle, Read Option, QB Wrap, and PA QB Read all look exactly the same to the defense.
Don't know how to make a table so I attached my rushing stats for the year. This is considered a bad year rushing for me. Check out 321BCS to look at my TCU team's rushing stats. That's how my offense looks once I get it setup to my liking.
I'm gonna have to set myself to Auto-pilot for the time being. Our internet is off at home and we don't really have a time table for when it will return. I'll be able to recruit though from the hotspot at Starbucks.
This could possibly be my last season.
Lol you lose one game
Why is that?
If your worried that your losing users to play against over there I'll figure out how to switch up teams or maybe Oneback can just move Oregon and Oregon State over.
It has nothing to do with losing a game. I never expected to not lose in this dynasty. If that was the case, you guys would not let me back in!I just do not enjoy playing the cpu right now. I play the game to relax with the very limited time I have, and it is hard to relax when I find myself yelling at the TV because my guys cannot block or tackle. It feels more and more each week like the ratings are not mattering. This last game just finally got me to the breaking point.
I do not expect OB to change setting just for one person, so instead of me bitching and complaining each week it would be best just to drop. I love playing with this group of guys but like I said, if it is not enjoyable anymore and more frustrating than fun, why play? It felt like I was going against the Giants D-line and the 49er's LB's when I played Tenn as nearly every play someone was coming free while my guys were getting stoned at the line. If I brought less then 6 guys on a blitz, he had at least 5 seconds to throw the ball.
I will make a decision here soon so you can find a replacement if need. Sorry for the issues guys, my frustrations are just finally outweighing the enjoyment.
I'm still making slight tweaks to the sliders weekly based on the stats I'm seeing from our games, input from everyone/anyone is welcome as well. We'll get to the point where its balanced/I'm hoping to be there some point soon.It has nothing to do with losing a game. I never expected to not lose in this dynasty. If that was the case, you guys would not let me back in!
I do not expect OB to change setting just for one person, so instead of me bitching and complaining each week it would be best just to drop. I love playing with this group of guys but like I said, if it is not enjoyable anymore and more frustrating than fun, why play? It felt like I was going against the Giants D-line and the 49er's LB's when I played Tenn as nearly every play someone was coming free while my guys were getting stoned at the line. If I brought less then 6 guys on a blitz, he had at least 5 seconds to throw the ball.
I will make a decision here soon so you can find a replacement if need. Sorry for the issues guys, my frustrations are just finally outweighing the enjoyment.
I think the two slider tweaks I would like to see is player speed differential (can't remember the exact name) and CPU run defense. Right now the differential is 60 and I end up getting run down by players that have 5-7 points speed lower. Speed should be more important than it current is.
That and with the run defense at 70, the CPU just instantly jumps anything that is a run. I understand trying to make the CPU competitive but when it's twice as easy to complete short passes as it is for a running team to pick up yards, you limit the playcalling quite a bit.
Agree with the run comment as it seems that you cant get a good push from the oline to run from the gun and when running the read it seems as if the QB keep is always the read. I know this has all been said in a earlier thread but I feel the same.
I found out after my game last night that I have forced just 1 fumble all season, and that was against kingpin on a sack by my corner. I have to set "big hit" and "strip" to conservative and it still does not work as I get tackles broken constantly and I get zero fumbles also. I am to the point know I just despise playing defense and that has always been my favorite part of actually playing the game. I feel like it does not matter who I recruit, because they play like crap regardless of their ratings.
I know you have been working on it OB, and I really do not like complaining about it so that is why I posted what I did. To G's point, I almost feel I would be better going to the Air Raid on offense with how bad the running game has gotten. Hopefully we can find a good balance.
I've felt the same way guys about the running game. Just little tweaks to the CPU run defense would go a long way.
Also agree with Tommy and the speed. Like to be able to pull away from that lineman a little more then I'm currently able to but I will add these two things have really made the CPU competitive
It's not complaining if you're giving constructive feedback on how you are seeing the game being played. I've only been making minor tweaks every so often as I don't want to make it completely unbalanced the other way so I've only been making 5 point changes. If you're seeing something let it be known and if others feel the same I'll make the appropriate changes. Everyone here has a hand in how we do things and if you're not having fun in one aspect of the game its time to look at making bigger changes to the way the game is playing out.
But I had been the only one posting anything(Eric made a few comments about it) so I thought I was the only one having problems!
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