Shotgun HB Counter?

[JeffHCross]

I was just about to come on here and declare this "FIXED", because I was using a Spread PB and having no issues with running counters.

Then I jumped in Practice Mode a second time to confirm, and had nothing but.

EDIT: And, apparently, I'm back on a horse that we thought we'd already

So I just played a Play Now game with Mississippi State (using team-specific Spread playbook), and ran as many counters as I could, including different formations and some formations that I had seen blown dead just minutes before in practice mode. Not a single one was blown dead.

So, experiment time. I'll run the HB Counter plays from four formations Practice Mode, each out of Mississippi State's playbook:

• Y-Trips
• Y-Trips HB Wk
• Normal Flex Wing
• 4WR Trio Str

Each play will be run against a 4-3 2-Man Under, to reduce the possible variables. I'll be using Florida State for my test, as it was their team that inspired this test.

In the following table, each HB on FSU will run each HB Counter play three times. The data in the table represents the number of successful runs (in other words, not blown dead).

Number	Height	Y-Trips	Y-Trips HB Wk	Normal Flex Wing	4WR Trio Str
FSU #4	5'8	0/3	0/3	0/3	0/3
FSU #8	5'8	0/3	0/3	0/3	0/3
FSU #32	6'2	3/3	3/3	3/3	3/3
FSU #21	6'0	3/3	3/3	3/3	3/3
FSU #28	5'8	0/3	0/3	0/3	0/3
Edited #4	5'9	3/3	3/3	3/3	3/3
Edited #32	5'7	0/3	0/3	0/3	0/3

In short: 5'8 or shorter: BAD. 5'9 or taller: GOOD. (Note that when I edited a player that was being blown dead to 5'9, he suddenly worked, and a player that had been working did not at 5'7).

These results were repeatable across playbook styles, including Multiple and Air Raid.






LMAO, it wasn't until after I posted this that I went back to the previous page and was reminded of this conversation:

I read on OS that they believe it has something to do with the height of the HB that determines if it'll be blown dead or not.

Here's a link
http://www.operationsports.com/forum...quick-fix.html

Yep. I tested it also and it was blown dead every time for me. Same team, same play, same player. Blown dead for me and steeler, not blown dead for snoop. Your guess is as good as mine.

Simple. Snoop is the dirty little liar I've always believed him to be