Super Bowl XLVI Discussion - NY Giants vs. NE Patriots

[ram29jackson]

In the regular season, both passing defenses were in the bottom five of the league. The Giants have somewhat woken up and have only given up 200 yards per game in the postseason and 4 TD's. They faced a shaky Falcons team, a distracted Packers team, and a horrible offense in the Niners. The Pats have two weeks to get ready. They have two weeks to see what all of a sudden has been working for the Giants. And the Evil Genius and Tom Brady sure don't want to be second fiddle to Eli again. All this leads to me picking this to end up a 3-score game.

the Giants recovered from injuries as the season progressed, they are pretty much taking the same route the Pack did last year. Everyone is healthy now and they started to gell.

The Giants already beat evil genius earlier in the season.
as good as the QB and coach have been together, the Pats are the weaker one dimensional team going into this game/match up......the Pats lost 3 games this year,its not like they cant be beat LOL

why isnt Coughlin an evil Genius? he's beaten two teams in the playofs/Super Bowl who beat his team in the regular season.

[psusnoop]

Without going into a huge discussion, Pats -31
Giants- 17

[ram29jackson]

fascinating....people seem to think the Pats will come out like gangbusters in this.....?

[psuexv]

fascinating....people seem to think the Pats will come out like gangbusters in this.....?

Yeah apparently we don't know anything about football

[JBHuskers]

the Giants recovered from injuries as the season progressed, they are pretty much taking the same route the Pack did last year. Everyone is healthy now and they started to gell.

The Giants already beat evil genius earlier in the season.
as good as the QB and coach have been together, the Pats are the weaker one dimensional team going into this game/match up......the Pats lost 3 games this year,its not like they cant be beat LOL

why isnt Coughlin an evil Genius? he's beaten two teams in the playofs/Super Bowl who beat his team in the regular season.

Playing the Patriots the second time around in 2012:

Jets - L 37-16
Miami - L 27-24
Buffalo - L 49-21
Denver - L 45-10

That's 158-71.

Week 9 was a LOOOOONG time ago.

You talk that the Patriots are one dimensional? In the playoffs, they're basically equal with the Giants defense. New England did have the worst pass D in the league this year, but in the playoffs, they're giving up less than 200 yards per game.

[steelerfan]

Ram, same path as the Pack because they are getting healthy? The Packers had 15 players on IR last year, they were never healthy.

JB, sorry bro, that list of 2nd time opponents doesn't include a team with a winning record.

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[morsdraconis]

JB, sorry bro, that list of 2nd time opponents doesn't include a team with a winning record.

Kinda hard to do when the Pats only played two teams the entire season with a winning record...

[ram29jackson]

Playing the Patriots the second time around in 2012:

Jets - L 37-16
Miami - L 27-24
Buffalo - L 49-21
Denver - L 45-10

That's 158-71.

Week 9 was a LOOOOONG time ago.

You talk that the Patriots are one dimensional? In the playoffs, they're basically equal with the Giants defense. New England did have the worst pass D in the league this year, but in the playoffs, they're giving up less than 200 yards per game.

dude, I'm talking about playing Coughlin in a major game after he barely loses the first game. He did it to the Pats in the SB year and he did it to the Pack this year. Coughlin seems to have Belichicks number in this one. And he adjusts very well after losses.

[ram29jackson]

Ram, same path as the Pack because they are getting healthy? The Packers had 15 players on IR last year, they were never healthy.

JB, sorry bro, that list of 2nd time opponents doesn't include a team with a winning record.

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my understanding is, key players were injured at beginning of season and came back later.
If its a bad/wrong example i dont really give a damn LOL. They beat your Steelers and thats all i care about LOL j/k.

regardless how it gets analyzed, i dont see how the Pats can be perceived as a favorite in this game no matter how you try to bend it. And 3 guys saying that they think the Pats Defense can hold Eli to 17 points seems ridiculous to me at the moment.

[SmoothPancakes]

dude, I'm talking about playing Coughlin in a major game after he barely loses the first game. He did it to the Pats in the SB year and he did it to the Pack this year. Coughlin seems to have Belichicks number in this one. And he adjusts very well after losses.

First, the first Super Bowl doesn't matter. That was 2007-08. This is 2012. Only 7 current Patriots and 15 current Giants were even on the teams in that Super Bowl. So that game has absolutely no matter or effect on this game.

Second, Tom Brady is going to be fired up for this one, just like he was for their game against Denver. All week long, it was Tebow this, Tebow that, Brady and the Patriots were an afterthought, and Brady came out and manraped the Broncos. Now it's Eli this, Giants that, rematch from previous Super Bowl (that Giants won, ruining Patriots perfect season) that, so Tom Brady and the Pats will again have plenty to use to get them fired up and ready to come out and bitchslap the Giants.

Congrats, Coughlin has beaten teams a couple times when playing those same teams a second time in that season, so has almost every other head coach in the NFL.

[JBHuskers]

Ram, same path as the Pack because they are getting healthy? The Packers had 15 players on IR last year, they were never healthy.

JB, sorry bro, that list of 2nd time opponents doesn't include a team with a winning record.

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Well....

A) The Giants were barely a .500 team in the regular season.

B) Beating those teams by more tgan double proves more of a point than you think.

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[ram29jackson]

First, the first Super Bowl doesn't matter. That was 2007-08. This is 2012. Only 7 current Patriots and 15 current Giants were even on the teams in that Super Bowl. So that game has absolutely no matter or effect on this game.

Second, Tom Brady is going to be fired up for this one, just like he was for their game against Denver. All week long, it was Tebow this, Tebow that, Brady and the Patriots were an afterthought, and Brady came out and manraped the Broncos. Now it's Eli this, Giants that, rematch from previous Super Bowl (that Giants won, ruining Patriots perfect season) that, so Tom Brady and the Pats will again have plenty to use to get them fired up and ready to come out and bitchslap the Giants.

Congrats, Coughlin has beaten teams a couple times when playing those same teams a second time in that season, so has almost every other head coach in the NFL.

15 to 7 another advantage for the Giants LOL

every player is fired up for this, so what else is new?

do you really think using the Broncos as an example is worth anything ? LOL

[steelerfan]

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No.

Also, I like how you say that the Giants win over New England in week 9 means nothing because it was "soooooooo long ago", yet you purport that New England's week 10 win over the Jets is meaningful.

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[steelerfan]

Kinda hard to do when the Pats only played two teams the entire season with a winning record...

During the regular season, yes.

And they lost to both of them.

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[JBHuskers]

No.

Also, I like how you say that the Giants win over New England in week 9 means nothing because it was "soooooooo long ago", yet you purport that New England's week 10 win over the Jets is meaningful.

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I just said look at the results the 2nd time around. I don't think I ever typed the word meaningful anywhere.

[steelerfan]

I just said look at the results the 2nd time around. I don't think I ever typed the word meaningful anywhere.

[ram29jackson]

the previous meeting is for sure meaningful to both teams. Being in the same season does have some significance.

in an interview with Peyton, they asked about him possibly helping his brother against the Pats D or brady or what ever. He said,they already played each other and Eli knows what he prepared for etc.. But he added they talked some about it. Point being; a same season match up must surely matter to these teams.

every player must get someone at this time to take care of all the extra tickets crap details so they can focus on the game.
Its kind of funny and cool that Peyton is taking care of all of Eli's details for him. No pride,no jealousy..just, he's my brother and i'm taking care of business for him.

[ram29jackson]

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[steelerfan]

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[morsdraconis]

Poor Peyton. Just come to Washington. The Shanahans will make the pain go away.