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Definitely some problems with alignment when you show blitz out of 4-3 Stack, & any zone coverage with corners. They walk down a bit inside and if they are in a zone, the WR will torch them. I showed blitz and froze my defense on a 3rd & long, everything was covered & then I saw a streaking receiver open for a TD. Turns out that alignment is a problem again. However, the problem goes away a bit if you audible down to 4-3 from Dime, which is a lifesaver.
I got my first kick off returned for touchdown of the year... opening kickoff, usering Ohio State. Last year I had good success if I could get to the outside early but this time I started up the middle of the field then found a crease that my blockers created and cut back into it leaving everyone behind.
What game speed are y'all playing on? I played '13 on very slow and it was fine but the '14 demo was sloooooow on very slow.
I got it on default for now.
The one brief game that I played last night before I quit and moved onto Halo 4 was on slow. Slow with a 30 threshold, same settings as I use in '13. It felt pretty good.
I love playing the demo on Fast. However, normal is best for me.
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I heard they had the retail version at e3... So does that mean this demo is the retail version?
Highly Doubt it. Retail is always at E3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Blue
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Thanks
I played heisman all around and set to fast and felt like it was tougher and moved better myself... also just a heads up in VT pb saw an OZR option... building a playbook will be loads of fun this year... curious to see the multiple 3-4 book and additions made if any... I may do an LG3 if there is enough goodness to be found
edit: load option from the gun doesnt have the hiccup from last year... so it can be a viable threat again
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Playing on normal is pretty good. Playing on fast reminds me of Madden 13, which is probably why I feel more comfortable with it. I'm enjoying the demo, more than any other demo in recent years. There's still some problems no doubt, but I can really feel the difference in the game this time around. Creating a playbook will be crucial for me for Online playing, & OD's.
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Played a game on normal speed and I think that's how I'm gonna roll. Very slow is just that.
Also, I wish we could create playbooks online now. I think the overwhelming majority of people are gonna run spread option attacks.
Anybody else having serious issues picking defensive plays during hurry up? I was kicking A&M's butt with Oregon 28-7 and in 4th Qtr A&M just went hurry up mode and I never had a chance to call a defensive play(forced me into using 2 timeouts). I don't really care for this artificial delay in the no huddle for the defensive playcalling screen. After the play it should immediately show up allowing me time to select a new play and maybe an adjustment or 2 before hiking the ball. I was getting really frustrated with A&M saying hut as soon as my defensive playcall screen popped up.
I've seen this but I've found that if you press X (on PS3), it will bring up the playcall screen much quicker than just waiting it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolverineJay
Ok gschwendt I will try that next time.
I love the zoom on offense not so much for defense.I wish we could camera sets for each side of the ball. that would be awesome. But for know its normal works best. I do really like zoom. Cord cam is just too far off.
This is for those of you that're worried that the CPU option keepers will be too tough to stop. The "option defense" gameplay adjustment works as you'd expect. In '13 it only worked with plays with pitches like speed options. In '14, it also works on plays with a mesh like read options.
I've played a bunch of games with Oregon and the read guy crashed on the HB probably 90+ % of the time and I'm using that as a baseline. I then grabbed 2 controllers, turned the D's option defense to "focus on the QB" and then ran 10 straight options with the offense. 100% of the time the read guy stood up and played the QB. This was with various flavors of read options as well as midline, inverted veer, and shovel options.
Of course if you're playing an Oregon, then you'll have to worry about stopping DAT.
:+1: I'd love for us to be able to set these up online. Especially with so many new formations and option plays, it'd be great to have time to look through them before the game comes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by souljahbill
That is good news. I do wish there was a quicker way to change those options. When playing an option team I feel like ill be changing it a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jello1717
Typed by thumbs.
This is great to hear and should make it easier to defend the option. If we know what the read guy is supposed to do we should be able to user control a LB or S and focus on the other running option.Quote:
Originally Posted by jello1717
jello has a good point. QB Miller of O-lie-o was killing me on option runs, so I switched the defensive adjustment to aggressive for option to focus on the QB and damn if my D didn't start taking him and damn if he didn't read it right and the HB was picking up yards. Pretty slick that it worked both ways but damned if I could shut them down on Heisman, at least for that game.
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Originally Posted by gschwendt
or R or L 3 I believe..?
shouldn't have to resort for gameplan junk for that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinWolv
All - American settings.
I had a couple plays where the/my defense, an LB or DE just runs past the QB like he's the invisible man...just dumb.
players feel/seem more solid, rubbery like madden.
infinity engine on first run play..the RB was on top of defender and took a couple seconds for play to be blown dead.
Bump cover on left side works now.
me/Mich. QB 13 for 15 for 195 yrds and one TD, 44 yrds rushing
the 4-4 defense wasn't in the Michigan playbook
Really enjoying the option blocking, and the assortment of plays we have now. Ran a Midline out of Shotgun Normal, & DAT ran untouched up the middle for a 90 yard touchdown. At times on NCAA 13 & sometimes Madden, 95+ speed didn't translate in the open field. If the demo is a representative of the game in that regard, speed will really kill. Finally.
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people will abuse people online with -hurry-up- if defense doesn't get to pick their plays faster then how it works in the demo. It just hand cuffs you and the offense can just start a play too soon
What I do counter the online no hurry up is go 4 DB man to man. That tends to stop people easily. depending on formation.
regardless of your play pick it still takes too long to set up. While hurry up is stupid AI abuse from stupid people at least in 13 you can quickly navigate menu. Unless this is just a demo thing, it takes too long now and kind of sticksQuote:
Originally Posted by GatorfanStovy
at least now you can re-blitz a defensive lineman without him going offsides.
AI QBs still throw balls out of bounds/over a receivers head for no reason on All-American
There is a reason. It is that no QB in the history of football is that accurate. They do throw the ball out of bounds and they do under/overthrow receivers, even when someone is wide open.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Sim +1
Ram -1
Yep, watch a game sometime. College or pros, QBs overthrow all the time. Hell, playing my Tulsa dynasty, I have completely fuckered passes to WIDE OPEN receivers because I led them too much or put too much air on it, causing it to go way wide of where the WR is, or overthrow them. Basically the same with the CPU. Some of their passes are going to be off-target, overthrown or just bad passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
Okay just got to play the demo:
--I think I am going to hate this game. There is simply too much sweet option stuff I don't know how I am going to streamline it into a usable playbook :)
--found one glitch. Playing Oregon against TAMU and they were still calling the cadence after the play was already being run
--did a squib kick and it bounced off the middle man on the front line. Worked like a surprise onside
--graphics are cool. The in between play scenes are great. More coach action.
--no sideline reporter
Only thing I don't like about 100% of the time is that kind of "Cheats" the system the other way. If you're able to play the option to perfection every time, that defeats the purpose of the cpu running it and being "effective" in their reads. I don't mind the "focus on", but I do not like 100%, unless of course your read guy has 99 awareness and play recognition skills. Wasn't that the complaint about CPU running the option... that they weren't effective? Now we are finding ways to neutralize it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jello1717
did anyone notice that the cpu never changes their coverage when you run no huddle...they stay with whatever play they picked the 1st time
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Originally Posted by bdoughty
seriously guys? do you need to nag that much? real world comparisons have nothing to do with low grade video game AI.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
the game threw 2 over throws in like 4 plays so I thought i'd mention it. Its a video game, your real world critiques are pointless. Ultimately the AI isn't all its cracked up to be from the others reviews of the demo I've read so i'm mentioning my critique.
Streaks aren't the guarantee they use to be it seems, which is good. And the demo froze at the end of the Alabama-Virginia game :mad: had to restart my ps3
I half agree, half disagree. As coach that's what GP is all about. I just wish you had to set it before the game and maybe had to call a timeout to change it during. I know there are in-game adjustments IRL but it seems a bit cheesy on the game if your dudes do it 100% of the time and can change plans on command.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
I wish the game had more underthrows and wide throws. Basically the game for CPU has 1 bad throw for every situation and generally it's when the pocket is closing or CPU qb goes to move and throw at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
I think you missed the last line of my post. This doesn't neutralize the option. It just forces a decision. You still have to stop the back. I played nothing but defense against Oregon while playing the QB and both DAT and his backup completely gashed my D. They both averaged double digit yards per carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayrah
The gameplan setting just lets you decide who'll do the gashing.
I hear you, I've never liked those adjustments being in the game. Not a fan of cheap power-ups for a sports game.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
That's for sure, CPU runs it damn well on Heisman.Quote:
The gameplan setting just lets you decide who'll do the gashing.
I -QB Spy- my defensive end on right side. the qb fakes hand off to RB on that side and keeps ball and runs to right side. My QB spying DE just runs after the RB Ignoring the qb.
maybe qb spy shouldn't need to work unless the QB is passing but why would my DE ignore the command I gave him unless the outcome of the option play is predetermined ? or it just roles the numbers dice as to when it works ?