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Haven't noticed this question yet.
Do RB's or any ball carrier for that matter still lean and and go into the trucking animation multiple times soon as a defender is still around? I've noticed it in the demo and it still looks dumb as ever. Without replay its hard to explain but I know people know what I'm talking about.
In NCAA 2011 the computer always seemed to have a woody for calling a timeout with 2:01 on the clock (usually in the 2nd and 4th quarters) if you haven't really seen that yet I'm pleased.
How effective is the juke?
It seems really weak in the demo ... I hope EA can tune this because I hate using the spin. In real life, ball carriers rarely spin in the open field -- they usually spin off contact.
So I want to see the juke become more valuable, because in the demo it feels almost useless.
yeah you rarely see a spin in real life that isnt off contact.
I totally agree. They have neutered all the special RB moves we used to have and the only one left is the unrealistic spin move. You can voice your concerns about this issue specifically in this thread: http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...utering-the-RB .Quote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
Are user-controlled celebrations still in the game? I haven't been able to do open-field celebrations (like high-stepping into the end zone by pressing B when I'm in the clear) or team-specific TD celebrations (like the tomahawk chop) in the demo.
I've seen TD celebrations -- including the tomahawk chop and the hook 'em thing -- but I have no control over them.
Would sure be a bummer if they took those out. If anything, I was hoping for more user-controlled celebrations and showboating -- even if they came at the cost of a penalty.
The showboating in the open field seems to be removed... not sure if intentional or not but it seems to be whenever I hold down the :ps3cir: button, it slows the player down like it did before, but he doesn't do any showboating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
As for TD celebrations, yes, those are all CPU controlled. They removed them because it looked really awkward seeing players running around in the endzone aimlessly after a touchdown or running all the way across the field to celebrate with the mascot.
That's too bad. And weird -- why take control out of the player's hands? Isn't user control what video games are all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by gschwendt
I don't care if they want to flag me for it, but I should at least have the option to celebrate after big plays or in the open field -- just like in NCAA 06. If it's in the game ...
Hmmm hard to say, I think it has to do more with the defense he was calling and the tackles he was missing. The only way to truly judge it would be to have 2 cpu controlled option teams playing against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deuce
Without the suction, I think more tackles will be over run and missed which will probably help the option game.
Not really. CPU has no problem making tackles in the backfield. And users who are good at tackling will have no problems with tackling either. I for one had no problems making tackles in the backfield on option runs or read runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by fincane
The only thing no suction does is make it way easier to run past blocks on defense and made it way easier to run up the middle on offense.
And another thing no suction really helped out on was on blitzes by the Defensive backs and linebackers. Looping blitzes work very well this year and almost a guranteed sack if you have a fast defense because your defenders don't get sucked in by the pass block coming up the middle.
You haven't played triple option teams yet. The spread option doesn't work against anybody. At least Oregon's doesn't work. Might have to tweak all teams that run it I just remember last year after tweaking option teams ratings for QBs ,RBs and O-linemen that the suction helped in containing them. Just being close to them while playing the QB and the pitch man with one player made it easier to make a play.
they took the showboating out because it is now a penalty in real life
Yeah I'm sure the NCAA had a little say into that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pig Bomb
How is the "short snap" formation? And if possible, can you show off some plays in it?
In coach mode game play can you use the normal camera angles as well or is the broadcast cam the only option?
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Originally Posted by JBHuskers
its a video game let me showboat while running to endzone if I want...what the hell would the NCAA care about a video game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pig Bomb
Because it bares their name and license on it. Companies and organizations do care about their name and image of what they are associated with.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
Definitely disagree that running backs are now "neutered." I've been able to take advantage of the spin move in the demo, using the appropriate player and in the appropriate situation (generally, when you're in open field moving more left/right than north/south, and a defender is overpursuing). Other than that, the spin move is not as effective, and it shouldn't be. In '11, it was flat out ridiculous how over-used the spin move was, to the point where guys were running directly north-south and spinning to magically clear out any defenders in a 10 yard radius. Very rarely does a real life running back ever execute a complete spin when running directly north-south.
For the jukes, they're toned down so that they're as pressure sensitive. In '11, it was too easy to trigger a big juke, which was an exaggerated sidestep that would sometimes work in the open field, but in any other situation it would pretty much suck your back right into a tackle. Now, it's easier to do a more subtle juke, which is what backs do when they get through a hole and want to shift their way around linebackers to get past the second level.
With the spin and juke having a reduced effect, you have to focus more on your field vision, following blockers and punching through the right holes, which is much more strategic than "let me speed my guy into open space and spin the defenders into oblivion." To compensate for the toned down spin and juke, dangerous players are just more dangerous in their default movement (i.e., their movement without special moves), which I think is more how it should be.
the fact is you are an intellectual moron if you're worried about a guy holding up a number 1 finger while running to the endzone. Its politically correct pussies always getting in the way of common sense hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Gotmadskillzson
I am ashamed to say that I have now completed 4 full games on AA and haven't beaten the CPU once. In fact I have been blown out twice. I am going to capture my next game and put it up asap. Hopefully it's a win finally! :fp: :D
That's nothing to be ashamed of man. Maybe finally the CPU will put up a fight and win most of the games it should.
I love a challenge and I can't wait.
That's awesome. Best news I've heard. Can you tell me the matchups of those 4 games?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
Edit: and the scores?
Tell me it wasn't against teams like Wyoming, West Kentucky or FAU. Even if it was though, nice to know you get solid competition from the cpu on AA. I will definitely stay offline all season long then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
Yep it's going to be fun to do a carousel OD because it will be a challenge not only to win but to keep your job :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
I don't necessarily agree with that. You're right that the L-stick is effective for moving around (and should be), but the juke should be deadly with the right player -- think of a back like Barry Sanders, who would juke defenders right out of their jockstrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwallace0317
I had three runs today where I was one-on-one with a safety. All three times I did a double juke, and all three times he steamrolled me as if I hadn't made a move at all. He just ran clean through me -- didn't slow down or anything. And this was on Varsity. I mean ... come on.
I'm hoping that tuners/sliders can remedy this.
As for the spin move, I'd almost like to see EA get rid of it altogether (except maybe when trying to spin out of a tackle) and use the B button for a different move. Players don't try to get all ballerina in the open field -- if they did, we'd be seeing a lot more shredded ACLs and concussions.
Then why not keep it in and make it a penalty for anyone dumb enough to do it? Hey, kids playing the game might even learn something about sportsmanship ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pig Bomb
My point is that EA should be neutral; the developer's job is to accurately reflect what happens on the field. Their opinion on showboating isn't relevant.
If it's in the game ...
Dont remember exact scores but:
-Lost close as Oklahoma St vs Oregon
-Lost by about 7 as Nebraska vs Washington
-Lost by 2-3 TDs as Michigan vs Northwestern (lots of turnovers)
-Lost by 2-3 TDs as South Carolina vs Clemson (lots of turnovers)
-Just lost a close one as Texas A&M vs Texas. Great game and I am going to start uploading it to Youtube now.
It would be nice to win one but I have to admit the challenge is fun as hell. I'm struggling on offense really bad right now. I'll post that video as soon as I can.
in the past games, I turned the bad sportsmanship penalty off so I could see the animationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
LOL I'd probably do the same thing. I have no problem with showboating/celebrating so long as it doesn't reach T.O./Ochocinco levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram29jackson
But taking user-controlled celebrations out of the game is like preaching abstinence -- instead of pretending players don't showboat, EA should just make sure it comes with real-life consequences.
Well this is the first time I have agreed with a FSU fan. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
http://imu.uiowa.edu/news/wp-content...1/turrible.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kwizzy
I'll ask again. Do the RBs or ball carriers in general still immediately go into the charging/truck animation multiple times when a defender is around?
Last year they would do that constantly, even when a defender wasn't close to making the tackle.
Yeah, I guess my experience has been different, in that I haven't had a problem using the juke (was mostly playing FSU vs. Bama on AA). It hasn't always been effective (nor should it always be effective with every player, no matter how deadly), but it's been successful enough for me that I'm happy with it. So, either I'm somehow doing something different from you, or I just got lucky many times in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unconquered
I've seen them use the move to duck under a tackle but I haven't seen them get into that annimation and not break out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by skipwondah33
LOL. He's 0-6 now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pig Bomb
I shouldn't laugh. When I got MLB 2K11 I was checking out my VIP file and discovered I was on a similar losing streak. I had played some half games too but all of my full games were losses. Started out 0-9 before I got my first win. I'm sure Kwizzy's feeling the pressure!
Same here... ball carriers, including QBs, seem much more effective at picking up yardage where it exists without unnecessary cuts or covering. Not to say it doesn't happen but it hasn't happened to where I've noticed it which means it hasn't been an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneback
Oh trust me I am. But like I said, it's actually been refreshing to lose! I thought I had the last one and was up 7 with 5 min or so left then they tied it, i kicked a FG & then they drove down and put it in the end zone w/ 48s left. My biggest problem so far has been inopportune turnovers, the zones are still getting me! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Hey Kwizzy got a question for ya.....
Have you had your punt blocked or FG blocked yet ? I think that might be something that needs to be tuned or patch. There should be punt blocks and FG blocks happening in the game for schools who are rated high in special teams. Same thing if a player comes out in a regular punt formation, but the cpu comes out in an all out punt block, the user should be getting his punt blocked 99% of the time for not having enough blockers back to help protect the punt.