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Steeler has it right in essence a lawyer could easily argue EA is putting out another way to have players' "likeness" to be used without their permission. Moreover, I suspect the settlement language states that EA agrees to no longer engage in behavior stealing athletes' likeness without their permission.
Interesting to see some liberals attack their own base (plaintiff's trial lawyers). Me like. :nod:
I'm no lawyer, but this doesn't seem like front page news. I mentioned or asked a while back, why on earth would XBOX1 or EA want to go through this again? Why would they touch this with a 10' pole?
There's too much legal baggage, the only way I can see them entertaining the idea is if the game was re-released as some sort of special edition and EA would make enough money on that "new edition" to pay off the ensuing law suits.
It's all fine and dandy that we "vote" on what the BC games will be, but when it comes down to video game companies losing money...they could give a shit about what we want or vote for...they aren't in business to get sued and lose profits. The bottom line rules the day, if they are going to lose money (by possible law suits) why on earth would they agree to that upfront?
If they did, I would be convinced 100% without a doubt they are complete idiots.
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Originally Posted by gigemaggs99
True but if you are going to include the game on the list to be voted for and if the game is in the top five pages and has one of the highest comment counts... you better be prepared to state WHY the game is not going to be backwards compatible. Simple solution... don't let people vote on it. Not all xbox games were listed.
Exactly. If EA isn't even going to entertain the thought of enabling it to be BC on the One, then come out right now and say so so we can move on from this bullshit.
And the whole "violating the settlement" claim is bullshit. There is not a single settlement agreement or nondisclosure clause that would keep EA from simply releasing a statement saying they will not be allowing NCAA to be backwards compatible on Xbox One.
If they weren't going to do it solely because of the previous agreement and terms, fine. But they don't even have to give a reason why not. All they have to do is say they won't be supporting NCAA as a backwards compatible title on Xbox One and leave it at that. At least then we'll fucking know whether or not this is all a waste of time.
To say they can't even just say "Sorry, we will not be supporting NCAA 14 as a BC title on Xbox One" and literally nothing else because of some obscure nondisclosure clause in a settlement from years ago is nothing but bullshit.
Just my 2 cents, but it seems like a lost cause.
It probably is, but it can all be settled by EA saying yes or no. Will it ever be backwards compatible. Yes or no. They don't even have to expand beyond that. Just say, yes or no.
They could so easily bring this game back. All they'd have to do is randomize the rosters.
Hell, they could take a step back. Instead of rating every player, focus on position groups. Rate each position group 1-10 and that'll determine where the randomization occurs. ( Alabama's rbs would be ranked as a 10. All of their rbs would be randomly ranked between 75-99, for example)
It's such an easy decision to make and the game would make a profit if continued.
I still think there could be an issue with licensing. Normally sports licenses are yearly deals. EA couldn't reproduce the game right now imo without NCAA permission. Not 100% sure on that but it seems it would probably be an issue.
That's another excellent point. If memory serves EA's contract with the CLC has expired and/or was terminated when the lawsuit was ongoing. I doubt EA is paying for a license it can no longer use in a video game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Therefore, the NCAA/CLC could sue EA and MS for using their logos without their permission.
Its just a can of worms that someone at MS didn't think through and I suspect MS and/or EA suits have quietly put the axe on this one ever coming to XB1.
You guys need to root for 1 of 2 things: #1 NCAA collapses and the colleges allow payers to be paid; #2 NCAA changes its rules and allows compensation for the use of athletes' likeness.
I think Rudy/CLW is on point in regards to the CLC license.
The list itself is pretty telling. 104 games and only 4 sports/racing titles that have professional licensing involved. Also a lot of mediocre games thrown in to fluff that total. No Red Dead Redemption or GTA 4? That is a bigger oversight than NCAA 14.
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Backwards compatibility is a loser for sport game publishers. They want you playing the latest and greatest with all that fresh DLC to devour. Even though NCAA is no longer being made, they would rather you play Madden 16 so you can play MUT and buy DLC.
You can always look at it as a cup half full. Maybe NCAA 14 is not BC and EA is silent because they are working on renewing licenses so they can make NCAA 2017.
I'm still waiting for NCAA Baseball to be backwards compatible!
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As soon as a football team or basketball team refuses to play a game, especially in a big spotlight like a bowl or Final Four, over the issue of getting paid.......they'll get paid. Would not be surprised if it happens in the next 10 years. The money is too big for the NCAA and universities to not get whacked and make changes if that happens. Just ask Missouri.Quote:
#2 NCAA changes its rules and allows compensation for the use of athletes' likeness.
What about the NFL 2k game that everyone raves about? Was it ever on XBOX360?
That won't happen either - #1 2K no longer has an NFL license and #2 EA/MS/NFL have some sort of pact with the Devil to love each other for all eternity.Quote:
Originally Posted by gigemaggs99
I disagree. If I had a 360 I could BUY it right now on Marketplace. The game is STILL for sale for 360 online. The game is NOT being made for xbox1 it is simply being allowed to be played on an xbox1. Heck, you cannot even buy 360 games on the 1. You have to buy them online from the xbox marketplace. If the game was no longer for sale on marketplace then I would say you are probably correct but I am looking at the website and I can buy and download NCAA 14 right now for $19.99... of I had a 360. Now something like NCAA BBALL 10 is no longer for sale so I can see what that would not be backwards compatible. Personally I think this is just EA trying to keep a low profile AND have people continue to buy Madden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
I thought I read somewhere here that the clc license didn't even cover every school. That some of the bigger schools had a separate deal and didn't want the clc to represent them?Quote:
Originally Posted by CLW
https://www.clc.com/Clients.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by baseballplyrmvp
Ohio St, Kentucky and Georgia, to name a few.
All Pro Football 2K8 was on the 360. Not licensed by the NFL and only had legends plus fictional players.Quote:
Originally Posted by gigemaggs99
Well we're not getting NCAA now so it's time to just focus on what we will have.
I want to replay Gears 1, never finished the story and only played online for 2, 3, and Judgement I got cheap but never touched :D
There are a couple of the XBLA games that will be cool to play on the 1 here and there as well. I will have to agree, there was quite a bit of fluff to get the total to 104.
Big day tomorrow. The New Xbox Experience goes public! It seems to be ready. There has been daily updates every single night for the past 8 or 9 days for us in the preview program as they work out the last kinks and issues. The Known Issues list has been getting smaller and smaller with each update.
Most of the highest in demand games were not on the list. Civ Revolution is one of the only games I play on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I was in the preview program. Not sure what happened.
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Yeah, I thought I remembered you being in it before.
so far the list is very slim for my enjoyment gears , cod bo1 and south park stick of truth that about it for me. Very boring list. Microsoft gotta do better.
Found this article which seems to infer that backwards compatibility requires games be re-licensed. Probably since they are being used on a console that was not in the original licensing contract.
http://www.vg247.com/2015/11/12/xbox...ad-redemption/
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According to Microsoft’s Group Program Manager Richard Irving, publishers have “cut very specific deals” on content, and this is where licensing comes into play.
“As you can imagine, publishers have cut very specific deals on some of that content.
“For example Madden – you can imagine how many licenses go into a game with the players, the NFL, sponsors and so on. And there’s over 1000 games at this point on Xbox 360.
“It didn’t seem fair to ask our partners to go off and find licenses for all this Xbox 360 content so what we opted to do instead was to give fans the opportunity to prioritize which games they want
Makes sense but they didn't really let us prioritize because most of the top 100 games voted upon are not on the list. Seems like a mixed message IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
An XBOX website calling out Microsoft for trying to take a jab at Sony as lame :D
Microsoft Takes Swing At Sony With New Backwards Compatibility Advert, Hits Nothing But Air
Xbox Live Black Friday Sale is now live for Gold members.
http://majornelson.com/2015/11/20/bl...al-game-deals/
http://www.purexbox.com/news/2015/11...k_friday_deals
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I already jumped on Shadow of Mordor Game of the Year Edition for $20 and have it downloading at home right now. An amazing game and all the DLC for only $20, when the physical and PS4 digital GOTY edition is still going for $35-$40.
I bought Shadow of Mordor for full price back in the Spring or early summer on PS4 and loved it. I'd been tempted to get it for Xbox One as well back in September and October since it was down to around $30. Now for $20, I'm game!
Wish Burnout Paradise was in the sale. I was at the mall doing Christmas shopping and briefly jumped into a Gamestop, they wanted $20 for it :D :D :D
December Gold!
http://news.xbox.com/2015/11/24/clos...medium=twitter
XB1:
The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing ($14.99 ERP): Available from December 1-31 on Xbox One
Thief ($29.99 ERP): Available from December 16-January 15 on Xbox One
360:
CastleStorm ($9.99 ERP): Available from December 1-15 on Xbox 360
Sacred 3 ($19.99 ERP): Available from December 16-31 on Xbox 360
Bonus: Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising ($9.99 ERP): Available from December 16-31 on Xbox 360
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Originally Posted by bdoughty
Nice! Looking forward to Thief playing. I almost picked this game up a half dozen times.
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Originally Posted by jaymo76
It's decent. Had an exciting storyline to it but there's no reason to keep playing after its done, IMO.
I'm digging the backwards compatible games.
Just picked up Supreme Commander 2, and both Rainbow 6 games, it was a buy 2 get 1 free sale at a local video game exchange store. I bought all 3 games for $24. :))
My Fallout 4 came with a code for FALLOUT 3. I punched in my code on my xbox1 and it said there was a problem downloading. Do I need to put the code into the xbox marketplace and then retrieve from there or should it work by putting the code into the xbox1?Quote:
Originally Posted by gigemaggs99
jaymo, I'm betting you should do it through the marketplace or on your 360 (if you had one), then the license will be tied to your account. From there, the XB1 will then recognize it off your account and it will show up in the "ready to install" section of the My Games app on XB1.
Just a guess though.
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"Through 8 February 2016, purchase Fallout 4 and receive Fallout 3 on Xbox 360. The code for Fallout 3 will be delivered to your Xbox message center in 7-10 days. Redeem your code on Xbox One or Xbox.com. Fallout 3 will be backward compatible, so you can play it on Xbox One starting 12 November."
Someone has a fever and the only prescription is more Fallout. :P
Actually I saw a few video clips for New Vegas and that looks old yet fantastic... especially the strip. Sadly though it's not backwards compatible.Quote:
Originally Posted by bdoughty
3 and New Vegas ultimate editions are worth playing.Quote:
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New Vegas is my favorite of the Fallout series. It has the most actual RPG elements whereas 3 & (even more so) 4 just basically take you on for the ride.