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Kingpin32
07-24-2013, 06:50 PM
Shadow Complex is my favorite download title ever. I just don't think it's considered indie since it was helped along by Epic, but if we're counting that, then sure. Shadow Complex is just another perfect example. People are way too quick to listen to the BS of just a few angry developers who haven't had a good experience versus the much larger group who has. It's especially funny to me because Xbox Live has WAY more quality indie titles.

I could probably list at least 30 really good indie titles that are only available on Xbox/PC, and are only available on those platforms because Microsoft helped them out.

To play devil's advocate here, how many of those indie games started on PC and then got ported to 360? My main case is Minecraft. By the time Minecraft moved to 360, it seemed to have surpassed the whole "indie" persona.

bdoughty
07-24-2013, 07:04 PM
To play devil's advocate here, how many of those indie games started on PC and then got ported to 360? My main case is Minecraft. By the time Minecraft moved to 360, it seemed to have surpassed the whole "indie" persona.

Does it make the game any less "Indie" because it sells so well? What about Trials HD and Evo? They dabbled with Trials games on the PC and had some success but then turned to MS and the Arcade games and blew up and the games were so well respected Ubisoft purchased their company. Does that make the "Trials HD/Evo games" any less "Indie." It is all about the games to me. I could care less if they are ports, indie games or made by the great Satan that is EA. If they are fun to play I will buy them.

Kingpin32
07-24-2013, 07:10 PM
Does it make the game any less "Indie" because it sells so well? What about Trials HD and Evo? They dabbled with Trials games on the PC and had some success but then turned to MS and the Arcade games and blew up and the games were so well respected Ubisoft purchased their company. Does that make the "Trials HD/Evo games" any less "Indie." It is all about the games to me. I could care less if they are ports, indie games or made by the great Satan that is EA. If they are fun to play I will buy them.
Honestly, I hate the term indie in everything. It shouldn't be label as a genre of game or music. You're right, just because a game is successful doesn't make it any less "indie", but most things that call themselves indies, are self made, self published games. As far as I know, in order to publish a game on 360, you needed to have some type of known publisher.

I OU a Beatn
07-24-2013, 07:13 PM
To play devil's advocate here, how many of those indie games started on PC and then got ported to 360? My main case is Minecraft. By the time Minecraft moved to 360, it seemed to have surpassed the whole "indie" persona.

Most of the ones I listed came to 360 first, then PC. Minecraft being the major exception. However, Microsoft reached out to the Minecraft team and help port it over to the 360 so they should definitely get credit for helping out. Like I said, it just makes no sense to say Microsoft doesn't care about indies when they have shown indies way more support than Sony ever has.

Sony has a couple gems like Journey and Dead Nation, but Xbox Live has way more.

bdoughty
07-24-2013, 07:20 PM
All the games on XBLIG are self published so no that is not correct. To make a game for the Arcade section you do. Those games have limited spots available to begin with. I always saw the Arcade section as more of a "small budget game" developer option.

bdoughty
07-27-2013, 05:38 PM
Well one of those indie developers decided to pack it up all together. Guy is a jackass.

http://i.imgur.com/z6V9or9.png

http://i.imgur.com/zTkMH49.png

http://i.imgur.com/9Nyjtdf.png

I OU a Beatn
07-27-2013, 05:50 PM
Between him and Johnathan Blow, I don't know which one is the bigger dumb ass. Whine around about Microsoft not support indie developers, so Microsoft changes, and they still complain about that. Meanwhile, when someone FINALLY calls them out on their bullshit, the little bitch whines around and cancels his game. Good riddance. Hopefully Blow learns to STFU or follows Fish out the door.

CLW
07-30-2013, 05:20 PM
Smart Match: Microsoft Explains Xbox One's New Matchmaking
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/30/smart-match-microsoft-explains-xbox-ones-new-matchmaking (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/30/smart-match-microsoft-explains-xbox-ones-new-matchmaking)

I OU a Beatn
07-30-2013, 05:33 PM
Cool stuff, but it's probably only if the developers take advantage of it.

Read a rumor today that Microsoft is planning to announce a $100 price cut at Gamescom next month to bring it's price down to compete with Sony. While that would be absolutely hilarious, I don't see it happening. Personally, I'm fine with the price point on both consoles. Obviously, Sony's is more appealing, but $500 isn't bad for a console plus an expensive ass camera.

CLW
07-30-2013, 05:39 PM
Cool stuff, but it's probably only if the developers take advantage of it.

Read a rumor today that Microsoft is planning to announce a $100 price cut at Gamescom next month to bring it's price down to compete with Sony. While that would be absolutely hilarious, I don't see it happening. Personally, I'm fine with the price point on both consoles. Obviously, Sony's is more appealing, but $500 isn't bad for a console plus an expensive ass camera.

LMAO it's funny but its probably a smart business move. at that point (assuming price drop) + all the other 180s and the two consoles are basically the same so it comes down to a preference of which company's exclusives/controller do you prefer.

I OU a Beatn
07-30-2013, 05:47 PM
LMAO it's funny but its probably a smart business move. at that point (assuming price drop) + all the other 180s and the two consoles are basically the same so it comes down to a preference of which company's exclusives/controller do you prefer.

Yeah, with all the reversals, the differences are disappearing quickly. The only thing preventing them from matching Sony is price is the fact they would probably lose money on their console at $399, where as Sony would be making money on theirs right off the bat. However, Microsoft has a lot more operating income than Sony, so they might be willing to take a loss just to be in a better position to compete with Sony for customers.

I don't know, though, but I know this conference is going to be fun as hell. Sony is focusing on PS4 and Vita with new games, Microsoft has new games and there's all kinds of rumors swirling around both of them. I can't wait.

bdoughty
07-30-2013, 06:14 PM
where as Sony would be making money on theirs right off the bat.

Probably not right off the bat, they just won't be in the same situation as the PS3.

Eurogamer cites Sony CFO Masaru Kato as saying the company is not planning a 'major loss' for the PS4 (http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/09/sony-not-planning-a-major-loss-with-ps4-launch/). Kato elaborated that the development of the PS3 required a lot of investments in R&D. The fact that the PS4 incorporates existing technology means less of an in-house investment this time around.

I OU a Beatn
07-30-2013, 06:18 PM
Ah, thanks for the info. I thought I had read that they were not selling it at a loss, but when I searched for it, I found your quote and a journalist assuming it would be sold at a profit, so I guess that's where I got that from.

I wonder what Microsoft is making/losing when selling at $500. I know the developer who did a AMA on Reddit said that without Kinect, the console would be "way less than $399," so if that's accurate, you almost have to assume the Kinect is almost as much as the console itself. You'd think Microsoft would see the opportunity to lose the Kinect, sell the console at $300 or $350 and undercut Sony.

GatorfanStovy
07-31-2013, 06:54 PM
Lame ass Kinect. again why not just sell it separately like the 360 was doing ugh.

baseballplyrmvp
07-31-2013, 09:35 PM
You'd think Microsoft would see the opportunity to lose the Kinect, sell the console at $300 or $350 and undercut Sony.

SHHHH! thanksgiving day surprise! :D

CLW
08-01-2013, 06:42 AM
Xbox One Reputation System Has Cheats and Jerks in its Sights“If you don’t want to play with cheats or jerks, you shouldn’t have to.”
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/01/xbox-one-reputation-system-has-cheats-and-jerks-in-its-sights

This sounds all well and good but I just don't know how good the system will be since "cheat" / "jerk" are subjective terms and MS will be relying on user feedback which I suspect won't be all that reliable.

SCClassof93
08-01-2013, 08:48 AM
Xbox One Reputation System Has Cheats and Jerks in its Sights“If you don’t want to play with cheats or jerks, you shouldn’t have to.”
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/01/xbox-one-reputation-system-has-cheats-and-jerks-in-its-sights

This sounds all well and good but I just don't know how good the system will be since "cheat" / "jerk" are subjective terms and MS will be relying on user feedback which I suspect won't be all that reliable.

Jerk is subjective, cheat however is objective.......you either did it or you did not. Lawyers:fp:

I OU a Beatn
08-01-2013, 11:19 AM
Xbox One Reputation System Has Cheats and Jerks in its Sights“If you don’t want to play with cheats or jerks, you shouldn’t have to.”
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/01/xbox-one-reputation-system-has-cheats-and-jerks-in-its-sights

This sounds all well and good but I just don't know how good the system will be since "cheat" / "jerk" are subjective terms and MS will be relying on user feedback which I suspect won't be all that reliable.


System will never work. They have feedback currently on Xbox Live, and I'm currently sitting at 75% bad feedback. I play sim in the football games I play online, never quit any games, and I'm never running my mouth. Basically, people get mad at losing or getting killed by you and give you bad feedback. I don't see why that would change on Xbox One, so I don't see how it would work any differently.

CLW
08-01-2013, 02:28 PM
Jerk is subjective, cheat however is objective.......you either did it or you did not. Lawyers:fp:


System will never work. They have feedback currently on Xbox Live, and I'm currently sitting at 75% bad feedback. I play sim in the football games I play online, never quit any games, and I'm never running my mouth. Basically, people get mad at losing or getting killed by you and give you bad feedback. I don't see why that would change on Xbox One, so I don't see how it would work any differently.

See above. People will just give - Rep every time they lose so I can easily see a world were nearly all XB1ers are red with the exception of guys who only play true friends or really game the system with cliques, multiple accounts, etc...

CLW
08-01-2013, 05:23 PM
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I OU a Beatn
08-01-2013, 05:29 PM
Gaming wise it's stupid. The only benefits I see are things like voice control to navigate menus, Skype, redeeming codes without having to type junk in, and the whole jazz of recognizing which user is holding the controller and adjusting the settings accordingly. Gaming wise, Microsoft and Sony both can shove their motion control garbage up their ass. I hate it, I've always hated it, and I will continue to always hate it. As I said around the time Move and Kinect released, the day I have to use something stupid like that to control a game is the day I find a new hobby.

CLW
08-02-2013, 03:49 PM
IF Specs are "meaningless" why do this:

Microsoft Confirms Xbox One GPU BoostClock speed increased from 800 MHz to 853.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/02/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-gpu-boost

I OU a Beatn
08-02-2013, 03:59 PM
Do what? They didn't add anything or change components. The boost was done by optimizing the GPU and the drivers for the chip. Regardless, the boost is minuscule at best and wont have some profound impact on the game performance.

That brings it up to 1.84 Teraflops for the PS4 versus around 1.3 Teraflops for the One now, which means the PS4 is still around 40% more powerful theoretically.

Like I said before, this is going to be a carbon copy of this generation. Games on both consoles will look virtually identical, while Sony's exclusives will look a bit better than anything else (but there wont be some profound difference there, either).

I think Mors said it, but we've reached a point where graphics look about as good as they can. This upcoming generation is going to stick to that, but it's going to be more known for more shit on the screen, no loading screens, and better effects.

CLW
08-02-2013, 04:06 PM
Do what? They didn't add anything or change components. The boost was done by optimizing the GPU and the drivers for the chip. Regardless, the boost is minuscule at best and wont have some profound impact on the game performance.

That brings it up to 1.84 Teraflops for the PS4 versus around 1.3 Teraflops for the One now, which means the PS4 is still around 40% more powerful theoretically.

Like I said before, this is going to be a carbon copy of this generation. Games on both consoles will look virtually identical, while Sony's exclusives will look a bit better than anything else (but there wont be some profound difference there, either).

I think Mors said it, but we've reached a point where graphics look about as good as they can. This upcoming generation is going to stick to that, but it's going to be more known for more shit on the screen, no loading screens, and better effects.

"Whitten also confirmed that Xbox One’s graphics driver has been changed"

SCClassof93
08-02-2013, 04:09 PM
All of this back and forth........is this really important???? Not like the titanic importance of who wins the next countdown game:nod::D

I OU a Beatn
08-02-2013, 04:19 PM
"Whitten also confirmed that Xbox One’s graphics driver has been changed"

It's a driver. Ever have your graphics chip get an update on your PC? That's a driver update. It's not changed in the sense of "we ripped this component out and swapped it with another," it's simply being updated and optimized for better performance, which is why they were able to get the extra 6% of performance for the chip. All the components are the same as they were before.


All of this back and forth........is this really important???? Not like the titanic importance of who wins the next countdown game:nod::D

I'm not going back and forth. He's just misinformed so I have to correct him. :D

bdoughty
08-02-2013, 04:32 PM
I'm not going back and forth. He's just misinformed so I have to correct him. :D

:D I am buying a Xbox One just to spite him, might vote Democrat too.

No way in hell am I voting for a Democrat.

CLW
08-02-2013, 05:11 PM
:D I am buying a Xbox One just to spite him, might vote Democrat too.

No way in hell am I voting for a Democrat.

Me too. :nod:

CLW
08-02-2013, 05:32 PM
More people are picking up on the "rumor" of a price drop pre-launch:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Atw3PWkslo

GatorfanStovy
08-04-2013, 01:19 AM
if they cut the price hell yea!

I OU a Beatn
08-08-2013, 12:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUGe1KRq-5k

Unboxing video that confirms every Xbox One console comes bundled with a headset. Good news, I guess, if only so I don't have to read the Sony loyalists around the web use it as if it's some advantage that one consoles comes with a cheap $3 headset and the other doesn't. Now they both do!

Still not using either one. :D

GatorfanStovy
08-08-2013, 02:10 PM
Pretty sweet I can't wait! come on November baby!

CLW
08-08-2013, 03:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUGe1KRq-5k

Unboxing video that confirms every Xbox One console comes bundled with a headset. Good news, I guess, if only so I don't have to read the Sony loyalists around the web use it as if it's some advantage that one consoles comes with a cheap $3 headset and the other doesn't. Now they both do!

Still not using either one. :D

That is the UGGLIEST box/uboxing EVA! :nod:

JBHuskers
08-08-2013, 03:27 PM
:troll:

oweb26
08-08-2013, 07:56 PM
:troll:

I had never really understand the dynamic of a troll until CLW started with this thread.

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I OU a Beatn
08-08-2013, 08:17 PM
I had never really understand the dynamic of a troll until CLW started with this thread.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

He's mostly just messing around, though. There's people out there that act exactly like he does (mostly worse), and they're dead fucking serious. It's truly sad as hell.

bdoughty
08-08-2013, 09:17 PM
He's mostly just messing around, though. There's people out there that act exactly like he does (mostly worse), and they're dead fucking serious. It's truly sad as hell.

If it was an attempt to be messing around there would be signs of humor, unfortunately with each post CLW makes, Dane Cook is just another step further away from being the most unfunny person on the planet. Imagine if you dare an unprotected orgy consisting of Kevin Butler (Sony Ad), Saul Goodman (Breaking Bad), Archie Bunker, Ann Coulter and Michelle Bachmann. That is the mental vision I get with each post he makes.

CLW
08-09-2013, 07:22 AM
I had never really understand the dynamic of a troll until CLW started with this thread.

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He's mostly just messing around, though. There's people out there that act exactly like he does (mostly worse), and they're dead fucking serious. It's truly sad as hell.


If it was an attempt to be messing around there would be signs of humor, unfortunately with each post CLW makes, Dane Cook is just another step further away from being the most unfunny person on the planet. Imagine if you dare an unprotected orgy consisting of Kevin Butler (Sony Ad), Saul Goodman (Breaking Bad), Archie Bunker, Ann Coulter and Michelle Bachmann. That is the mental vision I get with each post he makes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5dP_83O7o

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 10:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SYaTLCWL0

I can't wait to get my paws on this controller. Hopefully it works on PC, too.

CLW
08-12-2013, 11:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SYaTLCWL0

I can't wait to get my paws on this controller. Hopefully it works on PC, too.

Looks like my PS3 controller after I throw it down on the floor and pieces go flying everywhere. :nod:

GatorfanStovy
08-12-2013, 12:02 PM
I'm excited for the new controller looks pretty legit. Come on November!

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 12:58 PM
Microsoft has spent more than $100 million on designing the Xbox One controller. It sounds like an extraordinary sum, but that includes the design of hundreds of pad prototypes, thousands of hours of user research studies, and creating new tooling and construction facilities. The project dragged on for two-and-a-half years.

Holy hell. :D

morsdraconis
08-12-2013, 01:46 PM
Sounds like a GINORMOUS waste of money to me.

bdoughty
08-12-2013, 02:40 PM
Sounds like a GINORMOUS waste of money to me.

Agreed, the current controller is just fine and really only needed a better D-Pad. Why spend all that money on what is the best console controller on the market.

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 04:06 PM
Since Kinect must be plugged in for the Xbox One to function, what happens if your Kinect breaks? Like if it falls off the top of your TV onto a hardwood floor or something? Will the console cease to function?

WHITTEN: Xbox One is designed to work with Kinect plugged in. It makes gaming better in many ways – from the ability to say “Xbox On” and get right to your personalized homescreen, to the ability to control your TV through voice, Smartglass and more. Kinect allows you to search for your content, instantly move between games and your personalized dash and more with just your voice. Kinect helps you pick up and play by automatically knowing which controller you have in your hands. No more need to interrupt your friends game or navigate through multiple UI screens to sign in and tell the system which controller you are holding. It will even bind the controller to the console if its currently unbound – no searching for special buttons! Of course – these are just a few of the system wide benefits of having Kinect. Games use Kinect in a variety of amazing ways from adding voice to control your squad mates to adding lean and other simple controls beyond the controller to full immersive gameplay. That said, like online, the console will still function if Kinect isn’t plugged in, although you won’t be able to use any feature or experience that explicitly uses the sensor.

Kinect NOT required for console to function after all. Now I wont have to listen to any of the asinine "someone is spying on me" BS anymore. :D

JBHuskers
08-12-2013, 04:14 PM
More backpedalling :D

:bp:

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 04:21 PM
More backpedalling :D

:bp:

It was never confirmed one way or another. People just assumed because of the way Microsoft worded it in their infamous after conference interviews. I've always assumed that it's going to be bundled with every console but it wouldn't actually be required to be used, which is what it appears to be. Same thing with the indie stuff. The only things that were ever announced and later reversed were the online check, installing of every game + family share (both awesome features), and that they're bundling some cheap headset.

Some believe this means a $400 model is coming without the Kinect, but I don't think that's the case. It's great that it's not required, but I think they're still going to bundle it because they've already said that they promised developers it would be included with every console so they take advantage of it.

JBHuskers
08-12-2013, 04:25 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night :nod: ;)

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 04:28 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night :nod: ;)

It wont. I'm still bitter they removed the family share and installing of every game and not needing the disc. If they change that back to how it originally was, I'll sleep great. :nod:

CLW
08-12-2013, 04:51 PM
More backpedalling :D

:bp:


Whatever helps you sleep at night :nod: ;)

Yep next week they will just announce XB1 is just a FAT 360. No new features or games. Just a complete TAP OUT. :nod:

JBHuskers
08-12-2013, 04:56 PM
Yep next week they will just announce XB1 is just a FAT 360. No new features or games. Just a complete TAP OUT. :nod:

Was wondering where you were so I had to pick up your :troll: slack.

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 05:05 PM
No new features

Sounds an awful lot like the PS4. :D

CLW
08-12-2013, 06:54 PM
Sounds an awful lot like the PS4. :D

Yeah +$100. :nod:

CLW
08-12-2013, 09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1X86J2h8v8

Its almost as bad as the Obama apologists.

I OU a Beatn
08-12-2013, 09:13 PM
I agree with him, but I'm not a fan of his. He promised the moon with his games and never even came close to delivering.

However, the Xbox One that was ORIGINALLY revealed was a lot more attractive to me than the one we have now. They had a potentially amazing system that they did a horrific job of explaining how things will work, and then folded under pressure. Now, they're pretty much like Sony - releasing a rehashed machine that is basically the same thing with upgraded graphics. I'm highly disappointed with how this gen is beginning. The launch games suck for the most part for both systems, none of them have any appealing features that justify dropping $400+ for one of them, etc...

Honestly, unless I'm blown away by one of these two at Gamecom at the end of the month, I'll just keep my orders and then sell them once they come out. My interest in both of these consoles lessen the more I think about them. The only game I HAVE to have is Titanfall, and I can play that on PC.

CLW
08-13-2013, 06:44 PM
Microsoft Announcing ‘Unique’ Xbox One Exclusive at Gamescom“We’re going to talk about Europe’s biggest franchise and maybe some interesting things.”
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/microsoft-announcing-unique-xbox-one-exclusive-at-gamescom (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/microsoft-announcing-unique-xbox-one-exclusive-at-gamescom)

CLW
08-13-2013, 06:45 PM
Xbox One Can Regulate Power to Prevent OverheatingConsole monitors temp, alerts players.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/xbox-one-can-regulate-power-to-prevent-overheating

JBHuskers
08-14-2013, 11:47 AM
Xbox One Can Regulate Power to Prevent OverheatingConsole monitors temp, alerts players.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/13/xbox-one-can-regulate-power-to-prevent-overheating

"Hey, we're going to alert you right before you red ring"

:D :troll:

skipwondah33
08-14-2013, 12:13 PM
"Hey, we're going to alert you right before you red ring"

:D :troll:Hahaha hey that is funny, but I would love to have that information. Rather than hope and pray it doesn't do it each time I want to play.

I do want to play TitanFall

JBHuskers
08-14-2013, 12:14 PM
I'll probably get it down the line for 360 just to play through the story.

skipwondah33
08-14-2013, 12:31 PM
I still would like a 360..since I won't be getting a One out of the gate

GatorfanStovy
08-14-2013, 12:45 PM
Who is watching COD Ghost preview today? It's live right now!!!! Can't wait for it!

GatorfanStovy
08-14-2013, 12:52 PM
HOLY Perk Batman


11 total perks at once and like 20 new kill streaks HOLY crap!!!

SCClassof93
08-14-2013, 01:01 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0aiiarcWn1qlbqjg.gif

AustinWolv
08-14-2013, 01:46 PM
"Hey, we're going to alert you right before you red ring"

:D :troll:

You mean the same thing that laptops have done for years already? No internet mob about that?

CLW
08-14-2013, 08:54 PM
Microsoft Downscales Xbox One 2013 Launch to 13 MarketsMuch of Europe will now be waiting until 2014 for the Xbox One.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/14/microsoft-downscales-xbox-one-2013-launch-to-13-markets

CLW
08-14-2013, 09:03 PM
In case you need to catch up on the 41 pages this sums it up nicely:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEaWPWqkAw0&noredirect=1

oweb26
08-14-2013, 10:08 PM
I still don't get why they harp so much on the indie games, a casual fan doesn't give two shits about indie games, which is whom both consoles should be trying to get ; they already have the hardcore crowd no matter which system they use.

Overall it really did sum up CLW and IOU's conversation thread AKA the xbox one thread

morsdraconis
08-15-2013, 04:53 AM
I still don't get why they harp so much on the indie games, a casual fan doesn't give two shits about indie games, which is whom both consoles should be trying to get ; they already have the hardcore crowd no matter which system they use.

Overall it really did sum up CLW and IOU's conversation thread AKA the xbox one thread

All of the harping about Indie games isn't for the consumer, it's for the developer. Sony had went from hardest platform to program for and therefore hardest for an Indie developer to release on to easier to program for and no limitations on releasing on. Microsoft had to follow suit sooner or later or Sony was going to lock down all the important Indie games and leave Microsoft sitting there wanting but not getting any.

As for consumers not caring about Indie games, that's entirely not true at all. That may be the case for you, but the 8 million units that were sold of Mojang's Minecraft on the 360 (at $15 a pop) have something different to say about it. People are more interested than ever in Indie games (myself included) as that is where the truly good games are coming from.

So, Microsoft and Sony absolutely care about Indie games and it's about fuckin' time as they've missed out on some of the best games in the past 5 years because of their shortsightedness.

skipwondah33
08-15-2013, 07:22 AM
You mean the same thing that laptops have done for years already? No internet mob about that?There's no one company that manufacturers those. There's only one Microsoft Xbox 360.

You get a Dell..."oh well that's Dell's". You get an Acer..."oh well sorry lol", etc, etc

Laptops go through more of a rugged life as well which not all people take very good care of

And lastly sometimes even the common person can fix most of your issues with a laptop (hard drive replacement, memory upgrade, CPU replacement)

oweb26
08-15-2013, 07:56 AM
All of the harping about Indie games isn't for the consumer, it's for the developer. Sony had went from hardest platform to program for and therefore hardest for an Indie developer to release on to easier to program for and no limitations on releasing on. Microsoft had to follow suit sooner or later or Sony was going to lock down all the important Indie games and leave Microsoft sitting there wanting but not getting any.

As for consumers not caring about Indie games, that's entirely not true at all. That may be the case for you, but the 8 million units that were sold of Mojang's Minecraft on the 360 (at $15 a pop) have something different to say about it. People are more interested than ever in Indie games (myself included) as that is where the truly good games are coming from.

So, Microsoft and Sony absolutely care about Indie games and it's about fuckin' time as they've missed out on some of the best games in the past 5 years because of their shortsightedness.

The casual consumer doesn't care about indie games, as they dont take the time to actually learn/research what indie games are good, I am not generally speaking about all consumers. I would also say minecraft is the exception as it is not really "indie" anymore, maybe when it was PC only it would have been considered "indie".

Think about how many shitty "indie" games are out there, yes there are some good ones and honestly even some of the ones people said were good when I played them, the "curve" was either too steep or frankly they were boring as shit and I would say that I am not even a casual gamer, but a time limited gamer.

Hardcore gamers care about indie games as they are willing to take the time to find that gem, when I say casual gamer I am looking at the person who plays COD once a month, or some other pick up and play style game.

morsdraconis
08-15-2013, 08:06 AM
The casual consumer doesn't care about indie games, as they dont take the time to actually learn/research what indie games are good, I am not generally speaking about all consumers. I would also say minecraft is the exception as it is not really "indie" anymore, maybe when it was PC only it would have been considered "indie".

Think about how many shitty "indie" games are out there, yes there are some good ones and honestly even some of the ones people said were good when I played them, the "curve" was either too steep or frankly they were boring as shit and I would say that I am not even a casual gamer, but a time limited gamer.

Hardcore gamers care about indie games as they are willing to take the time to find that gem, when I say casual gamer I am looking at the person who plays COD once a month, or some other pick up and play style game.

Minecraft is a self-published game, aka Indie.

As for the fuckers that just play COD, well, that's all they play anyway so who gives a fuck about them? They're meaningless to either console in the long run because they do nothing but playing shitty COD.

oweb26
08-15-2013, 08:37 AM
LOL there you go with your COD hate! While I to don't like COD , the fact of the matter is they have set the standard for the casual gamer, their game is pick up and play like it or not, and what each console is trying to do is win that player over to get them away from COD ( frankly I am just using COD as an example choose any AAA title) and get them into more games. Your first assessment was spot on they are doing it for the developers to have "dibs" on that gem in case it crops back up.

I just don't know why these gaming publications keep saying it as though its a deal breaker, maybe for the hardcore crowd but not the casual player, the systems/and publication already have the hardcore crowd, they need the new blood to come in.

By strict definition Minecraft was an indie game but lets be honest it graduated from that point some time ago.

I OU a Beatn
08-15-2013, 09:05 AM
I don't get all this horseshit Sony is stewing up anyway. Live Arcade has long been the better place for indies. For YEARS, Sony's store was an absolute joke and has only recently begun to get better (why? because the Live Arcade was making a killing off these types of games). I realize there wasn't any self-publishing, but let's be real here, if the game is of any quality whatsoever, they can find a publisher and get their game on Live.

Same goes for Sony all of the sudden being the white knight for having an easy to develop for console. I nearly bust a nut laughing every time I hear someone say that as an advantage. Developers spent this entire generation with their pain in the ass to develop for console, so of course it's a huge relief that Sony is going back to a more PC like architecture. You know why Microsoft isn't getting reaped with all the glory of being easy to develop for? BECAUSE THE 360 WAS ALWAYS EASY TO DEVELOP FOR AND THE ONE IS USING A SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE, SO DUH, IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO DEVELOP FOR. They just don't have to say that because their previous console wasn't a pain in the ass.

It's unbelievable to me how quickly everyone forgets all the shit Sony has pulled simply because they're priced cheaper and they used the public's uninformed opinions about the One to rile up more support for their system.

I especially think it's funny how everyone was all up in Microsoft for possibly invading everyone's privacy with Kinect, and yet they forget how Sony didn't tell customers that their credit cards were potentially exposed until AN ENTIRE WEEK after they were hacked and brought down for a month a few years ago. :D

Some of you guys need to realize that Sony and/or Microsoft aren't your friends. They want your money. Nothing else. We just all better be thankful that they both exist, otherwise we'd be seeing some $800 console with 24/7 required DRM and $100 games.

SCClassof93
08-15-2013, 09:12 AM
Opinions - get an informed one :D

SmoothPancakes
08-15-2013, 11:24 AM
I don't get all this horseshit Sony is stewing up anyway. Live Arcade has long been the better place for indies. For YEARS, Sony's store was an absolute joke and has only recently begun to get better (why? because the Live Arcade was making a killing off these types of games). I realize there wasn't any self-publishing, but let's be real here, if the game is of any quality whatsoever, they can find a publisher and get their game on Live.

Same goes for Sony all of the sudden being the white knight for having an easy to develop for console. I nearly bust a nut laughing every time I hear someone say that as an advantage. Developers spent this entire generation with their pain in the ass to develop for console, so of course it's a huge relief that Sony is going back to a more PC like architecture. You know why Microsoft isn't getting reaped with all the glory of being easy to develop for? BECAUSE THE 360 WAS ALWAYS EASY TO DEVELOP FOR AND THE ONE IS USING A SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE, SO DUH, IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO DEVELOP FOR. They just don't have to say that because their previous console wasn't a pain in the ass.

It's unbelievable to me how quickly everyone forgets all the shit Sony has pulled simply because they're priced cheaper and they used the public's uninformed opinions about the One to rile up more support for their system.

I especially think it's funny how everyone was all up in Microsoft for possibly invading everyone's privacy with Kinect, and yet they forget how Sony didn't tell customers that their credit cards were potentially exposed until AN ENTIRE WEEK after they were hacked and brought down for a month a few years ago. :D

Some of you guys need to realize that Sony and/or Microsoft aren't your friends. They want your money. Nothing else. We just all better be thankful that they both exist, otherwise we'd be seeing some $800 console with 24/7 required DRM and $100 games.

I've been saying that for months. :D

All these idiots on the internet (not CLW, just to make it clear, I'm talking the dumbasses on fan sites or IGN or wherever) hoping for one console or the other to die. If one console drops out, they're going to wish for the days of two consoles to return. Do they really think Microsoft or Sony are going to go through all these hoops to make people happy if there's no competitor? They can price their console as high as they want, loaded with all the DRM they want. Sure, a lot of people may drop console gaming and either move to PC or give up gaming altogether, but there will always be people who will buy the console regardless.

If the Xbox One wasn't around, the PS4 would not be priced $399. It would be much higher, because Sony wouldn't have to compete with anyone other than PC gaming. They may not have to spend so much time working on the console, it could literally being PS3.5. Slap the PS4 name on it, slap a $600+ price tag on it, it'll still get snapped up by people everywhere. They wouldn't sell as much as they are/will right now, but it would still sell.

People bitch about there not being competition for Madden/NCAA (though it's looking like there won't be ANY NCAA much longer), but then they want no competition for the consoles. I swear these dumbshits don't actually pull their heads out of their asses and think sometimes.

JBHuskers
08-15-2013, 11:39 AM
I don't want either to die. I'm getting both eventually. Plus I'm on Gold til May 2015 anyways :D

skipwondah33
08-15-2013, 11:49 AM
Yeah I enjoy both when I own the other

Like I said I kept my 360 hard drive holding onto hope that I'd get another one eventually. Haven't had one since 07.

Only reason I haven't/didn't get another one was because I was holding out just in case my fat PS3 failed..which it finally did last year. And the fact my son was born and wife is staying at home.

So I like both and hope to get a One or 360 eventually.

morsdraconis
08-15-2013, 11:52 AM
I hope they both die. Then games won't be "ported" to PCs and look like a piece of shit because of it.

I OU a Beatn
08-15-2013, 12:34 PM
I hope they both die. Then games won't be "ported" to PCs and look like a piece of shit because of it.

That trend should stop anyway. With both of these consoles having very similar PC like architectures, I don't see any reason why developers wouldn't start out with the PC version and then just scale it back by removing the unnecessary effects to get it to run on the weaker consoles. I guess it'll depend on the developer just like this generation. There were gems like Borderlands 2, and then there were complete duds like Darksiders 2.

CLW
08-15-2013, 01:37 PM
I don't want XB1 to "die" (Dreamcast) b/c as mentioned above the competition MS provided last gen has forced Sony to up its game. Competition/capitalism is ALWAYS best for the consumer over a Monopoly.

bdoughty
08-19-2013, 06:42 PM
Rumor has it that Xbox One will include a free copy of FIFA 14 (Europe only?)

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/59599/rumor-fifa-14-to-be-free-with-xbox-one

We find out tomorrow.

CLW
08-19-2013, 06:47 PM
Rumor has it that Xbox One will include a free copy of FIFA 14 (Europe only?)

http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/59599/rumor-fifa-14-to-be-free-with-xbox-one

We find out tomorrow.

Nope they are going to 180 all of their previous 180s:

http://facepalm.naurunappula.com/org/13/fc/13fc287bb6c732a3/0/1082707.gif

SmoothPancakes
08-19-2013, 08:21 PM
If we get it here in the US, then sweet! I could go for some FIFA 14 action on the Xbox One.

CLW
08-19-2013, 08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkWnlaOj7cU

bdoughty
08-19-2013, 09:31 PM
Every time CLW posts in the Xbox One thread God lowers Duke's chance to win another National Title and raises North Carolina's.

CLW
08-19-2013, 09:33 PM
Every time CLW posts in the Xbox One thread God lowers Duke's chance to win another National Title and raises North Carolina's.


LOL :North_Carolina: needs all the help they can get with the Fatz fiasco with Hairston going on right now.

bdoughty
08-19-2013, 09:37 PM
LOL :North_Carolina: needs all the help they can get with the Fatz fiasco with Hairston going on right now.

Are you doubting God? Your reply just helped NC once again.

bdoughty
08-20-2013, 06:10 AM
Conformed for Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/oI3wUem.png

Would be nice if they threw in Madden for US and Canadian customers.


Also legendary players in Ultimate team are exclusive to Xbox.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/20/gamescom-fifa-ultimate-team-legends-is-exclusive-to-xbox


and the complete launch lineup.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/20/gamescom-full-xbox-one-launch-lineup-revealed

CLW
08-20-2013, 06:17 AM
Conformed for Europe.

http://i.imgur.com/oI3wUem.png

Would be nice if they threw in Madden for US and Canadian customers.


Also legendary players in Ultimate team are exclusive to Xbox.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/20/gamescom-fifa-ultimate-team-legends-is-exclusive-to-xbox


and the complete launch lineup.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/20/gamescom-full-xbox-one-launch-lineup-revealed

well EA is all-in with Microsoft. You would have thought after E3's debacle EA would have lightened up on which console they "prefer" clearly they wanted the DRM and are rewarding MS with the appearance that there are no EA games on PS4.

CLW
08-20-2013, 06:39 AM
Guns and football: Xbox One’s launch plan sharpens Microsoft’s focus on the mainstream
http://www.edge-online.com/features/guns-and-football-xbox-ones-launch-plan-sharpens-microsofts-focus-on-the-mainstream/ (http://www.edge-online.com/features/guns-and-football-xbox-ones-launch-plan-sharpens-microsofts-focus-on-the-mainstream/)

cdj
08-20-2013, 08:42 AM
Some new images of the Xbox One UI (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/425488/xbox-one-ui-screenshots-released/)

SmoothPancakes
08-20-2013, 10:38 AM
Oh yeah, I'm all-in for Xbox One after all, seeing the launch titles. A good group right there that I'll be able to pick up and put my Xbox One to immediate use.




Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag (Ubisoft, Ubisoft)
Battlefield 4 (DICE, Electronic Arts)
Dead Rising 3 (Capcom Vancouver, Microsoft)
FIFA 14 (EA Sports, Electronic Arts)
Forza Motorsport 5 (Turn 10 Studios, Microsoft Studios)
Madden NFL 25 (EA Sports, Electronic Arts)
Ryse: Son of Rome (Crytek, Microsoft Studios)
Watch Dogs (Ubisoft Montreal, Ubisoft)

SCClassof93
08-20-2013, 04:17 PM
:D
http://i2.wp.com/www.techtandoori.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/xbox-one-true-lies.gif?resize=500%2C213

CLW
08-20-2013, 09:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XwKJe3ozNA

CLW
08-22-2013, 06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVmWirjakM

Over/under on a 180 on this policy = within 1st year of launch. If they are down 2:1 or more in sales I GUARANTEE (1) price drop and/or (2) no kinect

skipwondah33
08-27-2013, 09:12 AM
Rumor has it release date will be November 8th

http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/08/rumor-xbox-one-launch-november

CLW
08-31-2013, 05:57 PM
Xbox One Launching in ‘Late November 2013’?Contest rules suggest Xbox One could launch after PlayStation 4.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/30/xbox-one-launching-in-late-november-2013

CLW
09-02-2013, 01:05 PM
Xbox One: External Storage Not Supported at Launch"It definitely is on the list."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/02/xbox-one-external-storage-not-supported-at-launch

SmoothPancakes
09-02-2013, 05:06 PM
Meh, oh well. 500 GB will be easily enough to start. I have plenty of room right now with my 250 GB drive on the 360.

CLW
09-02-2013, 06:16 PM
Meh, oh well. 500 GB will be easily enough to start. I have plenty of room right now with my 250 GB drive on the 360.

Yeah I don't think its going to be an issue for most for quite awhile. I'm still waiting to see if the HDD on PS4 is the same size as PS3 or if I'll have to upgrade later on with a different HDD.

gschwendt
09-04-2013, 07:55 AM
2pm UK time which would be 8am CT we'll supposedly know the launch date

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http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/04/xbox-one-release-date-announcement-coming-today-claims-game-rumour/

gschwendt
09-04-2013, 08:04 AM
375242012959973376

I OU a Beatn
09-04-2013, 08:39 AM
Disappointed by both console launch dates. Oh well.

gschwendt
09-04-2013, 08:46 AM
XB1 Day One Addition still available for pre-order through Microsoft.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.282124000

JBHuskers
09-04-2013, 10:15 AM
Rumor has it release date will be November 8th

http://www.complex.com/video-games/2013/08/rumor-xbox-one-launch-november

How many fanboys were fapping at this....


375242012959973376

Then bitching at this....

morsdraconis
09-04-2013, 11:56 AM
How many fanboys were fapping at this....

Then bitching at this....

I know one was (look at you IOU ;) ).

I OU a Beatn
09-04-2013, 02:09 PM
I would've been disappointed with the November 8 date, too. I'm surprised and disappointed that at least one of them isn't launching in late October.

JBHuskers
09-04-2013, 02:28 PM
Approaching two months for both though. Getting there.

cdj
09-04-2013, 02:40 PM
How many fanboys were fapping at this....

Then bitching at this....

I'll keep names out of this, but I saw someone tweet that they liked they liked Microsoft's 'strategy' as it makes the XBox One the 'latest thing' and that will be a benefit on Black Friday :D :fp:

I don't think releasing a week later is a killer, but anyone halfway reasonable knows that MS wanted to have their console out first.

I OU a Beatn
09-04-2013, 03:08 PM
Approaching two months for both though. Getting there.

I know. I'm just so tired of this generation and can't wait for the next one to start. Since PS4 is launching first, looks like I'll be getting games like Battlefield, Watch Dogs, and the other launch multiplatform games on PS4.

CLW
09-04-2013, 03:45 PM
Wow surprised MS allowed Sony to announce 1st and then release 1st. "Interesting" strategy indeed.

SmoothPancakes
09-04-2013, 04:39 PM
Eh, works for me. It gives me that many weeks long to devote to GTA V, and I'll end up now with my November 15th paycheck ahead of the release, so I'll be good on both purchasing the Xbox One and getting at least one or two games at the immediate start of release.

JBHuskers
09-04-2013, 04:53 PM
I'll keep names out of this, but I saw someone tweet that they liked they liked Microsoft's 'strategy' as it makes the XBox One the 'latest thing' and that will be a benefit on Black Friday :D :fp:

I don't think releasing a week later is a killer, but anyone halfway reasonable knows that MS wanted to have their console out first.

I just saw a news story that system production just hit full steam yesterday on it. Probably why it went from a week before to a week after.

Kingpin32
09-04-2013, 11:28 PM
The date is 8 years to the day that the 360 came out. Kind of a cool sentimental reasoning behind it.

SmoothPancakes
09-05-2013, 01:31 AM
The date is 8 years to the day that the 360 came out. Kind of a cool sentimental reasoning behind it.

That is actually kind of cool, going with the same, specific date 8 years later. Definitely an actual reasoning behind choosing that date rather than just throwing a dart at the calendar. I'm cool with waiting an extra week or two for something like that. It has more importance in the Xbox family than just some random date or trying to beat PS4 to the punch.

Plus, who knows, maybe releasing a week before Black Friday could help. The PS4 will be a big name that week that it's out ahead, but then the Xbox One will dominate just as many headlines that weekend before and week of Thanksgiving around the time of its release, leading right into Black Friday. So it may help with those who don't necessarily have kids or are looking for a console for the first time for their kids, the Xbox One will be a common name those immediate days leading into Thanksgiving and Black Friday, with all the ongoing hoopla of its release. While the PS4 will still be right there next to it on the shelves, the fanfare of its release will have waned a little bit between the 15th release date and then Xbox One's fanfare firing up that following week.

CLW
09-06-2013, 07:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmD0vPOd5Rk

Well MS doubles down on its Football Box for its first U.S. commercial.

GatorfanStovy
09-06-2013, 08:41 PM
Too bad the NFL package won't be free or under 200 bucks lol. I'd buy it.

CLW
09-06-2013, 09:18 PM
MS still has spec evny:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/07/microsoft-disputes-notion-ps4-is-30-more-powerful-than-xbox-one

But I thought they were "meaningless"

CLW
09-14-2013, 06:48 AM
MS still spinning denying PS4 > XBone1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaC9IWGdY8

bdoughty
09-18-2013, 10:05 PM
The world has just ended for CLW, despite his heavy handed Sony whoring, bomb number three has just been set off in Japan.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/09/xbox-one-toys-r-us-holiday

Sony is merely a bottom 15 wannabe. PS4 owners in turn will be wannabe's.


I am sure MS outspent Sony to be there but sometimes this site deserves a break from the obsessive Sony fans.

CLW
09-19-2013, 06:33 AM
The world has just ended for CLW, despite his heavy handed Sony whoring, bomb number three has just been set off in Japan.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/09/xbox-one-toys-r-us-holiday

Sony is merely a bottom 15 wannabe. PS4 owners in turn will be wannabe's.


I am sure MS outspent Sony to be there but sometimes this site deserves a break from the obsessive Sony fans.


So you show an article/post that you admit MS had to pay for such an "honor" as evidence of MS' superiority over Sony. Wow I'm sure Sony is shaking in their booties with the mighty Toys R Us Holiday Wish List unavailable to them.

morsdraconis
09-19-2013, 08:31 AM
Microsoft must have spent a shit load of money to keep Sony off that list.

SCClassof93
09-19-2013, 09:04 AM
The world has just ended for CLW, despite his heavy handed Sony whoring, bomb number three has just been set off in Japan.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/09/xbox-one-toys-r-us-holiday

Sony is merely a bottom 15 wannabe. PS4 owners in turn will be wannabe's.


I am sure MS outspent Sony to be there but sometimes this site deserves a break from the obsessive Sony fans.

Exactly what is a "Toys r Us"?? I thought they were known for tricycles, plastic figures and diapers? Grab an electronic or computer or home entertainment system retailer......someone that is a serious player in the market you claim to be in:D.........toys:fp:......probably will be exclusive at bed bath beyond next:D

oweb26
09-19-2013, 10:02 AM
Exactly what is a "Toys r Us"?? I thought they were known for tricycles, plastic figures and diapers? Grab an electronic or computer or home entertainment system retailer......someone that is a serious player in the market you claim to be in:D.........toys:fp:......probably will be exclusive at bed bath beyond next:D

Moms who don't know any better....that's who gets this stuff from Toy's r Us and who looks at these kind of lists...and frankly those are the people you want, the hardcore crowd has already decided which they are going to get.

JBHuskers
09-19-2013, 10:27 AM
Unless Toys R Us is selling it for $350, that really means nothing :D

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 4

CLW
09-19-2013, 01:09 PM
Unless Toys R Us is selling it for $350, that really means nothing :D

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 4

I'm actually trying to think of: (1) the last time I purchased ANYTHING from Toys R Us; and/or (2) The last time I even saw one of their stores. Generally they are TINY little stores inside of malls. I mean it's not like there won't be PS4 ads from the Gamestop 10 feet down the hall at the mall or at the Best Buy anchor store or at Wal-Mart; Target; etc....

Toys R Us is INDEED the death nail to Sony. Kudos to MS they just really outmaneuvered Sony by paying a has been toy store to be an "exclusive" in their paper add that NOONE (figuratively speaking) is going to even see. I'm cancelling my pre-order now and signing up for more Gov't surveillance before its too late. :nod:

I OU a Beatn
09-19-2013, 02:14 PM
...and if Sony would have done it instead of Microsoft, your post would look an awful lot like Bdoughty's original post, only completely serious. :D

bdoughty
09-19-2013, 05:12 PM
...and if Sony would have done it instead of Microsoft, your post would look an awful lot like Bdoughty's original post, only completely serious. :D

Ding Ding Ding... Took a while but that was to be expected.

bdoughty
09-19-2013, 05:19 PM
The last time I even saw one of their stores. Generally they are TINY little stores inside of malls

Jesus man, seek professional help. It was sarcasm for one and now you are trying to attack poor Toys R US just because they dare put the Xbox One on the Top 15. You are also mistaken, as KB Toys were the ones you saw in malls and now defunct thanks in part to Mitt Romney. Toys R us are a large chain of Best Buy sized stores that you find near malls, with some mall stores that are quite large.

CLW
09-19-2013, 05:37 PM
...and if Sony would have done it instead of Microsoft, your post would look an awful lot like Bdoughty's original post, only completely serious. :D

Nah unlike bdoughty's and your boyz at MS I have plenty of REAL ammo to use in actual logical arguments for Sony/PS4. Sadly for bdoughty and yourself MS hasn't given you much ammo to work with.

bdoughty
09-19-2013, 06:10 PM
When I upgrade to next gen I have already decided my first system will be a PS4 because I prefer their first party games. I will pick up a 360 down the road for exclusive games not on the PS4. You on the other hand are defending a plastic box as if your life depended on it.

I OU a Beatn
09-19-2013, 06:55 PM
When I upgrade to next gen I have already decided my first system will be a PS4 because I prefer their first party games. I will pick up a 360 down the road for exclusive games not on the PS4. You on the other hand are defending a plastic box as if your life depended on it.

Don't try to reason with him. I'm going Sony first this generation like you (possibly getting a One when Titanfall releases) and he still has delusions of me being a Microsoft fan boy and hating on Sony. How that's even possible when I'm buying their system (and on top of that, I'm buying it first) is beyond me, but hey, whatever helps him feel better about his odd brand loyalty to Sony. :dunno:

CLW
09-19-2013, 09:48 PM
Don't try to reason with him. I'm going Sony first this generation like you (possibly getting a One when Titanfall releases) and he still has delusions of me being a Microsoft fan boy and hating on Sony. How that's even possible when I'm buying their system (and on top of that, I'm buying it first) is beyond me, but hey, whatever helps him feel better about his odd brand loyalty to Sony. :dunno:

I'm glad you finally listened to reason:

http://i.imgur.com/LkKGInA.gif?1

bdoughty
09-19-2013, 11:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4qv52mS.gif

CLW
09-20-2013, 06:21 AM
TGS: Microsoft on its Vision for Xbox One......And why that vision won't be reality at launch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/20/tgs-microsoft-on-its-vision-for-xbox-one

bdoughty
09-20-2013, 06:48 AM
http://i.imgur.com/g7w2kyj.gif

CLW
09-20-2013, 08:32 AM
XBox Play PS4

http://www.gamespot.com/tgs/playstation-4-will-work-with-xbox-ones-hdmi-pass-through-port-6414735/

CLW
09-23-2013, 09:38 PM
Indie Games May Not Show Up on Xbox One Until Early 2014Phil Harrison also states Microsoft's "long term vision hasn't changed at all."
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/23/indie-games-may-not-show-up-on-xbox-one-until-early-2014

cdj
09-24-2013, 08:23 AM
Doritos & Mountain Dew teaming up to give away over 5,000 Xbox Ones:

Microsoft and PepsiCo are continuing their long-running partnership to market Mountain Dew and Doritos products to Xbox gamers. This year, the two companies will be giving away free Xbox One systems in a new "Every 2 Minutes" promo. And as usual, the event will coincide with the release of new "Game Fuel" products.

To participate, you'll have to buy specially marked Mountain Dew and Doritos products to collect codes. Then, starting September 30th, you'll be able to enter those codes onto Every2Minutes.com. Finally, on November 5th, you'll be able to use your points to bid on Xbox One systems. Nightly auctions will run every two minutes from 9PM ET to 2AM ET. That means 150 systems will be given away every night.

The auctions will run until December 9th, meaning the promo will end up giving away over 5000 systems.

While you'll be able to find codes on standard Mountain Dew and Doritos products, the two brands will have special editions targeted specifically at gamers. Mountain Dew Game Fuel returns in Citrus Cherry and a new Electrifying Berry flavor. Doritos will also offer a special "Gamer Pack," which includes Doritos Nacho Cheese chips in a "conveniently packaged, re-sealable, wide-opening table-top box, so gamers can snack easier and play harder."

We really didn't make that last bit up. It'll be available in Wal-Mart come October.

Courtesy: Shack News (http://www.shacknews.com/article/80932/doritos-and-mountain-dew-giving-away-over-5000-free-xbox)

steelerfan
09-24-2013, 10:55 AM
Doritos & Mountain Dew

714

I'm using Tapatalk 2 and the Cleveland Browns STILL suck.

CLW
09-24-2013, 04:52 PM
Xbox One Sharing Limited to Xbox Live at LaunchYouTube and Facebook will have to wait.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/24/xbox-one-sharing-limited-to-xbox-live-at-launch

Canes Fan
09-24-2013, 06:22 PM
I find it ironic how the only one who posts articles and news is a person who hates the Xbox.

bdoughty
09-24-2013, 06:45 PM
I find it ironic how the only one who posts articles and news is a person who hates the Xbox.

It would be ironic if it wasn't for the fact he tends to post things that make Xbox look bad.

CLW
09-25-2013, 07:16 AM
I find it ironic how the only one who posts articles and news is a person who hates the Xbox.


It would be ironic if it wasn't for the fact he tends to post things that make Xbox look bad.

I cannot help it that most of the PR post announcement has been bad for XB1. I go to sites and I post just about anything I see/read that is newsworthy.

CLW
09-25-2013, 07:17 AM
Microsoft On Its Games Lineup and Policy ChangesDespite sudden reversals over the past few months, Microsoft remains confident.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/24/microsoft-on-its-games-lineup-and-policy-changes

bdoughty
09-27-2013, 06:24 AM
Forza Motorsport 5: Direct Feed Gameplay | Bernese Alps


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfEUVjGq80&feature=youtu.be

For a comparison of 4 and 5.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPAQa6Scbdc

CLW
09-27-2013, 06:30 AM
Microsoft Announces Xbox FitnessFeel the next-gen burn!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/27/microsoft-announces-xbox-fitness

bdoughty
09-27-2013, 06:35 AM
Microsoft Announces Xbox FitnessFeel the next-gen burn!
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/27/microsoft-announces-xbox-fitness

Since I have Atrial fibrillation, I wonder if the Xbox One would dial 911 for me when it recognizes it. :hmm:

JBHuskers
09-27-2013, 09:21 AM
Since I have Atrial fibrillation, I wonder if the Xbox One would dial 911 for me when it recognizes it. :hmm:

You'd think Kinect 2.0 would detect you falling flat on your face...

CLW
09-27-2013, 05:28 PM
MS clearly knows Houston is Sony/PS4 territory. :nod:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/onetour

SCClassof93
10-02-2013, 07:31 AM
May I also suggest moving this "discussion" to the anything thread or at least let us stop here and resume xbox discussion for those that click this thread looking for that info?

CLW
10-08-2013, 08:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn64HEhSEW8

bdoughty
10-11-2013, 06:30 PM
CLW Cancels subscription to Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/the-10-breakthrough-products-of-2013#slide-9

SmoothPancakes
10-11-2013, 06:44 PM
CLW Cancels subscription to Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/the-10-breakthrough-products-of-2013#slide-9

This isn't going to end well. :D

cdj
10-14-2013, 08:44 AM
Xbox One Friends App


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpqoJfTR3g

More on Friends App & Multiplayer Features on Xbox One (http://majornelson.com/2013/10/14/new-friends-app-and-multiplayer-features-for-xbox-live-on-xbox-one/)

gschwendt
10-14-2013, 08:53 AM
Is this supposed to hint at GTA V coming to XB1 or are those players just playing on 360?

cdj
10-14-2013, 09:58 AM
Is this supposed to hint at GTA V coming to XB1 or are those players just playing on 360?

They are playing on 360.

CLW
10-14-2013, 06:43 PM
XBone = Twitter


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-KEwaIvNPQ

CLW
10-14-2013, 06:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsEe-oazAIE

I OU a Beatn
10-15-2013, 06:36 PM
Hi! My name is John Bruno – I am a Lead Program Manager from the Xbox Live team. For as long as I can remember, games have been part of my life. Whether it was playing my Commodore 64 in my basement as a young kid, feeding my spare quarters into arcade machines in the 1980s, or playing “Project Gotham Racing” on the original Xbox - I have always enjoyed playing video games. We’ve obviously come a long way with games since I started playing, and for me personally, it has been an incredible experience bringing Xbox One to life and supporting the forthcoming game titles that are launching on this console generation. I’m especially proud of what our team has been working on with Xbox Live Compute, and I’m glad to finally be able to share more details with you as part of the “Week of Xbox Live!”

As you have heard over the course of the past weeks, Xbox One will benefit greatly from the power of the Xbox Live cloud. This obviously represents a broad Microsoft commitment that spans a number of scenarios, all intended to bring the best of entertainment and gaming experiences that our game creators have to offer. Xbox Live Compute represents one of the ways that games will be better on Xbox One. This service is specifically designed to enable game creators to utilize the scalable computing resources that Microsoft deploys within our regional datacenters, to enhance their game experiences beyond what is generally possible with the finite resources of a console. This sounds great, but what does it really mean for gamers and developers?

Well, for starters let’s talk about what the Xbox Live cloud is all about. Simply stated, it’s about massive numbers of high-powered servers running in Microsoft datacenters all over the world – all performing various computing workloads. At Microsoft, running hundreds of thousands of servers that power experiences like Bing, Skype, or Xbox Live is in our DNA.

So, why did we build Xbox Live Compute? When we were planning the next generation of Xbox Live, we spent a lot of time talking with game creators about ways to make games better. We realized that there was an incredible opportunity to bring together the resources and global scale of Windows Azure, with the game services of Xbox Live to build a cloud computing platform that was uniquely focused on gaming and game creators. Our intent was to enable developers to take advantage of server resources in their games without having to deal with the challenges that come with building, managing and running servers at scale. So, we chose to provide cloud features that allow the game creators to push the limits of their gameplay experiences and apply the bulk of their investments to game creation, rather than server and operational resources. In fact, we even give them the cloud computing power for FREE so they can more easily transition to building games on Xbox One for the cloud.

As you’ve seen since its debut, Xbox One is a powerful device, and it will do amazing things for entertainment and games. The challenge with the compute power of any consumer electronics device, however, is that the resources it ships with are finite. Building games that leverage the power of the physical device often requires game creators to strike the balance between the fidelity of the player experience and the available computing resources on the device. In essence, the richness of the game world they create is often limited by what they can do with the power of the device. With every generation of console we have seen the richness of the game experiences improve as the power of the devices improved. However, in this generation, we really want to help game creators draw on the ever-expanding power of our server infrastructure to drive continuous innovation in their game experiences – innovations that translate directly to better, more engaging gaming experiences. The really exciting part becomes evident when we consider a few things game creators can do when they use these additional computing resources in the cloud:

Higher fidelity game experiences – As I mentioned before, cloud compute can enable developers to offload computations for all sorts of environmental elements. In a typical game development scenario, the game creator needs to balance resource allocation across each area – world management, rendering, controls, networking, lighting, physics, AI, as well as networking and multiplayer. Balancing the local computing resources for all of these elements often results in developers making tradeoffs that result in more focus on core gameplay, and less on environments, NPC and other elements of world fidelity. However, when cloud compute is available to support the various computationally-intensive elements of the game, these kinds of tradeoffs become much easier for developers to make. Games can afford to provide higher fidelity worlds and deeply intelligent NPC AI all at the same time. These experiences could only be accomplished by leveraging the resources of servers.

Improved multiplayer game experiences – This is perhaps the most obvious example of what is possible with Xbox Live Compute – dedicated servers! If you have played a lot of multiplayer games, you know that playing on dedicated game servers has advantages over peer-to-peer gameplay. With server-based multiplayer gaming, not only can more players play the game (think hundreds of players simultaneously), the gameplay will be much more reliable for the players. No more host migration interruptions, suboptimal experiences for the host, home network NAT constraints, or player cheating! Additionally, Xbox Live Compute can be utilized to persist game state so that your squad can live to fight another day without losing any progress. A great example of a game that is using Xbox Live Compute for their dedicated server multiplayer experience is “Titanfall.”

Adaptive & evolving game play – Imagine the game you play every day improving each time you log in. Imagine joining a match in your favorite first person shooter to find new maps and game modes even though you never downloaded a game update. Imagine playing with your friend even when he/she is not online. When games are powered by Xbox Live Compute, they can be dynamically updated, tuned, changed, and improved continuously. Games will evolve and live on for greater periods of time, continually providing fresh content and new experiences. The flagship example of this application of cloud computing can be found with “Forza Motorsports 5, “and its Drivatar system.

On-demand compute improves game availability – With all of the potentially interesting things that can be accomplished with Xbox Live Compute, one of the most important things is that the resources (e.g. servers) are available when gamers need it most. It is the geographic availability of this service, and its elastic scalability that enables gamers to connect to an available server and play without experiencing busy or unavailable servers. This ensures that games meet the changing demands of their player communities for compute, and gamers experience optimal connectivity based upon their geographic location. Additionally, it means that game creators can be assured that the server capacity they need, in the appropriate geographies, will be there when they need it.

With Xbox Live Compute we hope to inspire a new era of innovation in game development and game experiences for Xbox One. We expect that this platform will help our development community build more of their games as services – games that are intelligent, immersive and continuously evolving experiences for the players – powered by Microsoft’s ever-expanding cloud infrastructure. This is only the beginning though. We are really excited for the opportunities that lie ahead for the platform, our development community and ultimately our amazing Xbox owners. Stay tuned though, as we’re excited to share more of the nuts and bolts details about how we’re bringing this platform to life.

Info on the cloud. The bold and underlined part is the huge bit of the whole thing, really. Considering it's free to developers to access these services, including dedicated servers, online games using P2P garbage should be a thing of the past now. I'm so glad that dedicated servers is such a huge focus for online gaming this generation. It's long overdue.

morsdraconis
10-15-2013, 07:41 PM
Info on the cloud. The bold and underlined part is the huge bit of the whole thing, really. Considering it's free to developers to access these services, including dedicated servers, online games using P2P garbage should be a thing of the past now. I'm so glad that dedicated servers is such a huge focus for online gaming this generation. It's long overdue.

Now Call of Duty has no excuse for lag kills, even though it's PLAINLY obvious it's their shitty engine and not just server lag.

SmoothPancakes
10-15-2013, 07:51 PM
Now Call of Duty has no excuse for lag kills, even though it's PLAINLY obvious it's their shitty engine and not just server lag.

Yeah, we'll find out for sure in a month. It would certainly be nice being able to play FPS' like Call of Duty again and not have to deal with lag kills and all the other non-dedicated server bullshit.

CLW
10-16-2013, 10:31 AM
Xbox One Won't Allow Real Names Online at LaunchBut it's still planned somewhere down the line.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/16/xbox-one-wont-allow-real-names-online-at-launch

I OU a Beatn
10-16-2013, 11:06 AM
Xbox One Won't Allow Real Names Online at LaunchBut it's still planned somewhere down the line.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/16/xbox-one-wont-allow-real-names-online-at-launch

As long as it's optional like on PS4, I'm fine with that.

skipwondah33
10-16-2013, 11:28 AM
I hate when I hear the term "the cloud" :fp:

"the cloud" has been around for years..

CLW
10-16-2013, 01:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc_vUf1C8b8

I OU a Beatn
10-17-2013, 10:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEbrdfXfCc&hd=1

Looks better every time they release something new. Easily the best looking launch game graphically, I just hope it plays as well and has an engaging story to boot.

CLW
10-17-2013, 10:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEbrdfXfCc&hd=1

Looks better every time they release something new. Easily the best looking launch game graphically, I just hope it plays as well and has an engaging story to boot.

Isn't this the game allot/several people were complaining about b/c it was nothing but QT events where you just mash the button it tells u to press?

I OU a Beatn
10-17-2013, 11:42 AM
Isn't this the game allot/several people were complaining about b/c it was nothing but QT events where you just mash the button it tells u to press?

Yes, uninformed people. They're not quick time events, but rather execution prompts. You can hit the button to trigger a special execution, or you can completely ignore it and kill them the standard way. As for the game itself, to me it looks like God of War from a Gears of War perspective, which I will love if the gameplay and story are solid.

Sent from my One using Tapatalk

CLW
10-17-2013, 11:54 AM
Yes, uninformed people. They're not quick time events, but rather execution prompts. You can hit the button to trigger a special execution, or you can completely ignore it and kill them the standard way. As for the game itself, to me it looks like God of War from a Gears of War perspective, which I will love if the gameplay and story are solid.

Sent from my One using Tapatalk

Yeah I dunno haven't been following it closely b/c its an MS exclusive but it looks impressive graphically and could be compelling with a decent story line but I still don't understand how the game plays is it First Person or Third Person? Haven't played Gears so no clue what the goal is.

I OU a Beatn
10-17-2013, 12:07 PM
Yeah I dunno haven't been following it closely b/c its an MS exclusive but it looks impressive graphically and could be compelling with a decent story line but I still don't understand how the game plays is it First Person or Third Person? Haven't played Gears so no clue what the goal is.

It's third person, but it's a really tightly zoomed third person. Take for example Uncharted...you can see your entire character. With Gears and Ryse, you can only see your character from about thigh up.

Sent from my One using Tapatalk

lilheavy
10-17-2013, 03:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7XuMKw5D4k

lilheavy
10-18-2013, 09:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT21_3fjBg4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U__xp6BkcSk

skipwondah33
10-18-2013, 11:48 AM
That game looks awesome!!!

I love the God of War/Roman type story lines

I'd definitely want to get this

I OU a Beatn
10-18-2013, 01:55 PM
That game looks awesome!!!

I love the God of War/Roman type story lines

I'd definitely want to get this

Yeah, I think it looks sweet. Everyone was all over it for the reason CLW mentioned, they thought those prompts above enemies were quick time events and even though they came right out and said they weren't, people had already run with it.

I think the combat looks pretty fun, and graphically, I mean it's arguably the best looking launch title. I just hope the story is engaging and the game play is solid. Like you, I love these types of story lines...it's amazing to me there aren't more games like it, to be honest.

lilheavy
10-18-2013, 02:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQmvHsv5Tc

I OU a Beatn
10-18-2013, 11:46 PM
Achievement animation and icon:

http://i2.wp.com/i.minus.com/ir4F5kJffCbZM.gif

Also confirmed is that you can customize the color of the tiles on your dashboard. You can also customize the color of toast notifications, including achievements.

lilheavy
10-21-2013, 02:51 PM
Coop Gameplay


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Wgd8gZA9o

CLW
10-21-2013, 08:04 PM
PS4 pre-orders in U.S. > XB1 pre-orders in U.S. to date

Xbox One – Top 10 Pre-orders
1. Call of Duty: Ghosts (http://gamewise.co/games/46158/Call-of-Duty-Ghosts) - 329,032
2. Battlefield 4 (http://gamewise.co/games/46159/Battlefield-4) - 153,221
3. Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (http://gamewise.co/games/46266/Assassins-Creed-IV-Black-Flag) - 137,928
4. Watch Dogs (http://gamewise.co/games/45811/Watch-Dogs) - 95,314
5. Forza Motorsport 5 (http://gamewise.co/games/46517/Forza-Motorsport-5) - 90,573
6. Dead Rising 3 (http://gamewise.co/games/47586/Dead-Rising-3) - 86,648
7. Ryse: Son of Rome (http://gamewise.co/games/33518/Ryse-Son-of-Rome) - 82,888
8. Destiny (http://gamewise.co/games/46048/Destiny) - 66,448
9. Madden NFL 25 (http://gamewise.co/games/46415/Madden-NFL-25) - 58,870
10. Titanfall (http://gamewise.co/games/47422/Titanfall) - 50,347

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/10/21/xbox-one-vs-ps4-top-pre-ordered-next-gen-video-games/?partner=yahootix

JBHuskers
10-22-2013, 12:17 PM
So there was that report that CoD gamers are not true gamers. So this proves that more non gamers choose XB1 over PS4? :D

CLW
10-22-2013, 12:32 PM
So there was that report that CoD gamers are not true gamers. So this proves that more non gamers choose XB1 over PS4? :D

Yep looks like PS4 poached real gamers from 360 and now all that's left are 12 year olds to play with on Xb1.

I OU a Beatn
10-22-2013, 01:17 PM
Yeah, 12 year old kids and their moms and dads buy the more expensive console. Right.

CLW
10-22-2013, 05:16 PM
Yeah, 12 year old kids and their moms and dads buy the more expensive console. Right.

They will if their kid pitches a fit.

Xbox is the COD/Madden "bro" console. Always has been always will be.

I OU a Beatn
10-22-2013, 05:41 PM
They will if their kid pitches a fit.

Xbox is the COD/Madden "bro" console. Always has been always will be.

Which is why it always outsells Sony in America. It's smart to associate your company with things your main customer base enjoys. Americans mostly enjoy sports and shooters, so that's naturally what Microsoft is going to go after. I never understood the whole "kid" thing. I encountered way more annoying kids on PSN than I ever have on Xbox Live. That may be because of the party system and the fact that I can't hear them, but eh, I think that whole mentality is just warped.

bdoughty
10-22-2013, 05:49 PM
They will if their kid pitches a fit.

Xbox is the COD/Madden "bro" console. Always has been always will be.

:fp: Because nobody on the PS3 plays Madden or COD?

8 million copies of Minecraft sold on the 360, not exactly a "bro" game.
UNO sold over 2 million. We all know that is a big "bro" game.

I would go on but it's you so I won't because the little image below speaks for itself.

http://i.imgur.com/7KMhf1T.png

CLW
10-22-2013, 05:51 PM
Which is why it always outsells Sony in America. It's smart to associate your company with things your main customer base enjoys. Americans mostly enjoy sports and shooters, so that's naturally what Microsoft is going to go after. I never understood the whole "kid" thing. I encountered way more annoying kids on PSN than I ever have on Xbox Live. That may be because of the party system and the fact that I can't hear them, but eh, I think that whole mentality is just warped.

Well despite this its still behind in pre-orders (see Forbes above) so either the "bros" haven't ordered yet. Or, the non-"bros" decided to go PS4 this time around.

and my limited time with a 360 involved listening to the COD and Madden "bros" on Live ramble on in chat at friends houses. It was quite humorous for about 5 minutes then I wanted to shoot myself and thanked God I owned a PS3.

lilheavy
10-25-2013, 11:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1mfIg1I3zE&feature=youtu.be



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_ycZCLWoU

cdj
10-27-2013, 11:57 PM
Xbox One dashboard in action (http://t.co/LXrZq3FLe1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EMm6hYafNM

bdoughty
10-28-2013, 12:50 AM
Voice commands have always freaked me out a bit, not a fan of talking to machines. Something I can live without.

I OU a Beatn
10-28-2013, 03:00 PM
394900287866953728
394900831490699264
394901589703421953

Pretty reliable guy who has leaked numerous things before. In other words, uh oh.

EDIT: Also verified by another notoriously accurate leaker:

394908015452647426

Wouldn't touch the Xbox One with a 10 feet pole with all the crap I've been hearing the last week. First the major differences in resolution between the two systems, and now this. Wow.

JBHuskers
10-28-2013, 03:02 PM
I saw an acticle popup in my gaming news app yesterday that stated that the XB1 is going to be very buggy at launch. I'll try to find an article on the net.

GatorfanStovy
10-28-2013, 03:04 PM
Well go figure I bet both online for each system will be buggy and laggy as hell because everyone will be on it and cause it break down because once again the servers won't be able to handle the massive people online.

cdj
10-28-2013, 03:07 PM
I saw an acticle popup in my gaming news app yesterday that stated that the XB1 is going to be very buggy at launch. I'll try to find an article on the net.

I'm seeing the same on twitter with mentions highlighting the OS. Supposedly dev leaks, but who knows.

JBHuskers
10-28-2013, 03:08 PM
Here it is:

Xbox One And Xbox Live Apparently Very Buggy, Could Pose Problems At Launch [Rumor] (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/10/xbox-one-and-xbox-live-apparently-very-buggy-could-pose-problems-at-launch-rumor/?utm_source=mainrss)

gschwendt
10-28-2013, 03:09 PM
Well go figure I bet both online for each system will be buggy and laggy as hell because everyone will be on it and cause it break down because once again the servers won't be able to handle the massive people online.
You do realize periods, commas, semi-colons, etc. are used for more than just "I'm done talking now"... right?

I OU a Beatn
10-28-2013, 03:09 PM
Here it is:

Xbox One And Xbox Live Apparently Very Buggy, Could Pose Problems At Launch [Rumor] (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/10/xbox-one-and-xbox-live-apparently-very-buggy-could-pose-problems-at-launch-rumor/?utm_source=mainrss)

Yeah, that's the same guy whose tweet is at the bottom of my original post and verifies what the other guy was saying. Horrible, horrible news. I know it's a rumor, but that guy has leaked shit before and has been correct virtually every time.

JBHuskers
10-28-2013, 03:10 PM
You do realize periods, commas, semi-colons, etc. are used for more than just "I'm done talking now"... right?

That's why I just ignored the post, not going to try to decipher it.

JBHuskers
10-28-2013, 03:12 PM
Yeah, that's the same guy whose tweet is at the bottom of my original post and verifies what the other guy was saying. Horrible, horrible news. I know it's a rumor, but that guy has leaked shit before and has been correct virtually every time.

Very interesting. I thought the current 360 platform was the basis and transformation to get ready for XB1, so I'm kinda surprised that it could be a disastrous launch for XB1 and XBL.

steelerfan
10-28-2013, 03:54 PM
You do realize periods, commas, semi-colons, etc. are used for more than just "I'm done talking now"... right?

:+1:

SCClassof93
10-30-2013, 09:21 AM
Well go figure I bet both online for each system will be buggy and laggy as hell because everyone will be on it and cause it break down because once again the servers won't be able to handle the massive people online.

http://www.thecurriculumcorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/punctuation.jpg

SCClassof93
10-30-2013, 09:22 AM
You do realize periods, commas, semi-colons, etc. are used for more than just "I'm done talking now"... right?

I'm too late :fp: Glad to see you on Stovy patrol!!! I am back now so you can resume your more important mod duties :D

GatorfanStovy
10-30-2013, 11:09 AM
Ok guys back on topic. ...

I know my grammer and shit is really bad sometimes. I was never good at spelling and what not. So we can just leave it at that.

SCClassof93
10-30-2013, 11:13 AM
Ok guys back on topic. ...

I know my grammer and shit is really bad sometimes. I was never good at spelling and what not. So we can just leave it at that.

Sometimes??? grammer??? Seriously even grammar Nazis like me and :sf: make mistakes but just try right clicking the underlined in red words for spelling before you post. On the plus side, for a gator, you are not that bad :D

GatorfanStovy
10-30-2013, 11:21 AM
Sometimes??? grammar??? Seriously even grammar Nazis like me and :sf: make mistakes but just try right clicking the underlined in red words for spelling before you post. On the plus side, for a gator, you are not that bad :D

I'm Glad to know that I am okay around here!

steelerfan
10-30-2013, 11:22 AM
Sometimes??? grammer??? Seriously even grammar Nazis like me and :sf: make mistakes but just try right clicking the underlined in red words for spelling before you post. On the plus side, for a gator, you are not that bad :D

First I find out I'm a racist, now a Nazi. Quite a day.

SCClassof93
10-30-2013, 11:31 AM
First I find out I'm a racist, now a Nazi. Quite a day.

It is only 10:30 a.m. :up:

JBHuskers
10-30-2013, 12:13 PM
Grammer?

http://www.cheersboston.com/images/fans_frasier.jpg

gschwendt
10-30-2013, 12:19 PM
395588959020912640

JBHuskers
10-30-2013, 12:22 PM
:D

We're going to need a bigger boat.

CLW
10-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Here it is:

Xbox One And Xbox Live Apparently Very Buggy, Could Pose Problems At Launch [Rumor] (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/10/xbox-one-and-xbox-live-apparently-very-buggy-could-pose-problems-at-launch-rumor/?utm_source=mainrss)

Well it wouldn't be the 1st time MS released a buggy as hell console at launch. :nod:

I OU a Beatn
10-30-2013, 01:16 PM
Well it wouldn't be the 1st time MS released a buggy as hell console at launch. :nod:

As if they're the only ones who do it. You had to quit to the XMB for the first year or so of the PS3 to read/send messages or do anything else related to the system features. :D

cdj
10-30-2013, 08:34 PM
Here it is:

Xbox One And Xbox Live Apparently Very Buggy, Could Pose Problems At Launch [Rumor] (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/10/xbox-one-and-xbox-live-apparently-very-buggy-could-pose-problems-at-launch-rumor/?utm_source=mainrss)

To be fair, *hopefully* this could be rectified via patch. I'm more concerned about hardware failures in either console.

CLW
11-02-2013, 07:52 AM
Xbox One Resolutiongate: the 720p falloutHow Call of Duty and Battlefield changed the console war.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-resolutiongate-the-fallout

GatorfanStovy
11-02-2013, 01:37 PM
everyone one will have their own thoughts on the new systems. Also people will buy what they want and where there friends are simple as that.

SCClassof93
11-02-2013, 06:29 PM
everyone one will have their own thoughts on the new systems. Also people will buy what they want and where there friends are simple as that.

Wondering why "their" was not used twice :dunno:

bdoughty
11-02-2013, 06:54 PM
Wondering why "their" was not used twice :dunno:

http://i.imgur.com/GNdI1VQ.png

steelerfan
11-02-2013, 06:54 PM
Wondering why "their" was not used twice :dunno:

He wasn't sure if he was right the first time so he changed it up the next time around. That way, he's only wrong once (think hedging a bet). It's pretty smart, if you're not.

GatorfanStovy
11-03-2013, 12:26 AM
Yea Yea guys. Move along these aren't the droids your laughing at.

JBHuskers
11-04-2013, 12:43 AM
He wasn't sure if he was right the first time so he changed it up the next time around. That way, he's only wrong once (think hedging a bet). It's pretty smart, if you're not.

If only that worked with you're English teacher...

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SCClassof93
11-04-2013, 06:09 PM
If only that worked with you're English teacher...

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:glare:

JBHuskers
11-04-2013, 09:48 PM
:glare:

:D

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SCClassof93
11-05-2013, 08:22 AM
:D

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:nod:

:sf: has caught me on your/you're a couple times already.......:fp:

cdj
11-05-2013, 03:06 PM
397757327631458304

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JBHuskers
11-05-2013, 03:35 PM
:nod:

:sf: has caught me on your/you're a couple times already.......:fp:

Mine was kind of on purpose :P

CLW
11-05-2013, 04:07 PM
White XBone on Ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Xbox-One-White-Exclusive-Launch-Team-Commemorative-Special-Edition-/141108113747?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

SCClassof93
11-05-2013, 04:44 PM
Mine was kind of on purpose :P
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Jon-Hamm-Sure-Thing.gif

GatorfanStovy
11-05-2013, 07:02 PM
The white looks pretty good. Will US have that color?

CLW
11-05-2013, 08:44 PM
The white looks pretty good. Will US have that color?

Not in the plans. Apparently it was a special edition that MS sent to actual game developers and that developer is auctioning their xbone off for charity.

CLW
11-06-2013, 09:20 AM
Xbox One Cloud Updates May Force Mid-Game Reboot

"That’s a problematic thing for a game."


http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/06/xbox-one-cloud-updates-may-force-mid-game-reboot



LMAO wow MS really did think this whole DRM/Online/Cloud thing very well. :nod:

cdj
11-06-2013, 09:30 AM
I'm seeing that some members of the Xbox Ambassadors/MVP program are getting a free Xbox One plus five games.

JBHuskers
11-06-2013, 09:37 AM
I'm seeing that some members of the Xbox Ambassadors/MVP program are getting a free Xbox One plus five games.

Damn where's mine. :D I'm an ambassador, but haven't been active in a long time.

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SmoothPancakes
11-06-2013, 09:41 AM
Damn where's mine. :D I'm an ambassador, but haven't been active in a long time.

Sent from my DROID RAZR Maxx since I'm too lazy to get to the CPU using Tapatalk 4

Same here. :D I've been with Ambassadors since last spring.

Stan HAMsen
11-06-2013, 10:20 AM
I know I read an article one time where MS said running a console through their HDMI pass thru (or whatever they're calling it) wouldn't work well because of latency issues, but do y'all think it would be a problem to run my TV PC through it? I don't usually use that PC for games, but I do occasionally play Civ on it.

My cheap TV only has 2 HDMI inputs, so it would be great if I could put the PC through the XB1.

cdj
11-06-2013, 12:58 PM
Kotaku with their Xbox One preview: The Xbox One Launch, Minus The Hype (http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-one-launch-minus-the-hype-1459148057)

CLW
11-07-2013, 09:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zo9z8S2Yao

720 at 30 FPS. :nod:

cdj
11-08-2013, 07:31 AM
Marc Whitten and Yusuf Mehdi walk through a comprehensive demo of Xbox One, including instant switching, biometric sign-in, Live TV, Skype, game DVR, OneGuide and more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhe6jV-APwM

I OU a Beatn
11-08-2013, 09:41 AM
720 at 30 FPS. :nod:

...and the only people who will care are the lunatics on NeoGaf and you. :D

SmoothPancakes
11-08-2013, 09:52 AM
...and the only people who will care are the lunatics on NeoGaf and you. :D

:D

SmoothPancakes
11-08-2013, 09:53 AM
Marc Whitten and Yusuf Mehdi walk through a comprehensive demo of Xbox One, including instant switching, biometric sign-in, Live TV, Skype, game DVR, OneGuide and more.

Looking nice! Just two more weeks, I can't wait for this baby to arrive on the 22nd.

morsdraconis
11-08-2013, 04:54 PM
...and the only people who will care are the lunatics on NeoGaf and you. :D

I'm sorry, but if I gave a shit about either console, I'd be VERY pissed about the XBONE not running shit at 1080p or at 60 fps. While some people say they can't tell the difference between 30 and 60, I ABSOLUTELY can, especially for games where lots of things are happening on the screen at once (like Dead Rising 3). So, lunatic or not, it's a BIG deal when there is noticeable frame skips because of it not running at AT LEAST 50 fps. Play any game that is all about twitch reflexes and play it at 30 fps and 60 fps. The difference is GIGANTIC.

cdj
11-08-2013, 10:07 PM
This guy apparently has an Xbox One early (https://twitter.com/Moonlightswami)....that he got from Target, claiming they sent it to him early by mistake. He has been posting some info.

bdoughty
11-08-2013, 10:43 PM
This guy apparently has an Xbox One early (https://twitter.com/Moonlightswami)....that he got from Target, claiming they sent it to him early by mistake. He has been posting some info.

Cue CLW calling Target Corporate HQ and Twitter Support to have this filth removed.

bdoughty
11-08-2013, 10:59 PM
I'm sorry, but if I gave a shit about either console, I'd be VERY pissed about the XBONE not running shit at 1080p or at 60 fps. While some people say they can't tell the difference between 30 and 60, I ABSOLUTELY can, especially for games where lots of things are happening on the screen at once (like Dead Rising 3). So, lunatic or not, it's a BIG deal when there is noticeable frame skips because of it not running at AT LEAST 50 fps. Play any game that is all about twitch reflexes and play it at 30 fps and 60 fps. The difference is GIGANTIC.

I am with you on FPS to an extent but I can live with a relatively consistent 30FPS. When you get big dips in the teens and below, it is distracting. That said I agree with IOU, this really is an issue for fanboys and angry people who dislike being called a lunatic. ;)

I play the game, not the resolution it is being displayed at. Any multi-console gamer knows that when you go back to the PS3 from a 360 playing at higher resolutions are not high up on the list of reasons for switching. Sadly it came with more of those annoying framerate dips. It was all about the games. The Last of Us was rendered natively at 720p. Second best game I have played this year. The Show is rendered natively at 720p. Best sports game I have played this year. Both looked stunning, even at that lowly 720p resolution. Ironic that someone like CLW has lived with the PS3 all this time and this is suddenly a big issue?

Completely forgot my favorite game of the year, GTAV, which is native 720P on both the PS3 and 360 with a not so locked in 30FPS. Yet somehow this game is more impressive to me than some of the next gen stuff.

SmoothPancakes
11-09-2013, 03:39 AM
I am with you on FPS to an extent but I can live with a relatively consistent 30FPS. When you get big dips in the teens and below, it is distracting. That said I agree with IOU, this really is an issue for fanboys and angry people who dislike being called a lunatic. ;)

I play the game, not the resolution it is being displayed at. Any multi-console gamer knows that when you go back to the PS3 from a 360 playing at higher resolutions are not high up on the list of reasons for switching. Sadly it came with more of those annoying framerate dips. It was all about the games. The Last of Us was rendered natively at 720p. Second best game I have played this year. The Show is rendered natively at 720p. Best sports game I have played this year. Both looked stunning, even at that lowly 720p resolution. Ironic that someone like CLW has lived with the PS3 all this time and this is suddenly a big issue?

Completely forgot my favorite game of the year, GTAV, which is native 720P on both the PS3 and 360 with a not so locked in 30FPS. Yet somehow this game is more impressive to me than some of the next gen stuff.

:clap:

bdoughty
11-09-2013, 05:14 AM
This guy apparently has an Xbox One early (https://twitter.com/Moonlightswami)....that he got from Target, claiming they sent it to him early by mistake. He has been posting some info.

Update shows that his console got banned. Play with fire and you get burned.



He did post something interesting that got me thinking about EA's next golf game. He listed the file sizes of the games.

Ghosts: 39GB
Skylanders: 15GB
Madden 25: 12GB
LocoCycle: 13GB
Zumba Fitness: 24GB
Dead Rising 3: 19GB
NBA 2K14: 43GB
NBA LIVE: 9GB
Forza 5: 31GB
FIFA 14: 8GB
Assassin's Creed IV: 20GB
Just Dance 2014: 22GB
Ryse: 34GB


Lococycle uses more space than all of the EA Sports Games? Lococycle? I know some games use a little padding to make pirating games more difficult but you really have to question how much "next gen" really went into EA's next gen games. They have all this space available and yet...



Edit: I moved the rest to the Tiger Woods Section.

bdoughty
11-09-2013, 05:29 AM
Also the guy took screens of this information, in case you were wondering about the accuracy.

http://i.imgur.com/5T1jFXI.png

http://i.imgur.com/YnhynR6.png


The rest of the images can be found here (http://67.227.255.239/forum/showthread.php?t=711802).

CLW
11-09-2013, 07:09 AM
Update shows that his console got banned. Play with fire and you get burned.

Yeah I made a few calls and sent a cease and desist letter out and took care of that garbage.

CLW
11-09-2013, 07:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ1b_bNIQko

CLW
11-09-2013, 07:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRpcQO4wuI8