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    RE: "The tendancies fix"... are rosters that have names generated by the game screwed up like the human edited ones???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pig Bomb View Post
    RE: "The tendancies fix"... are rosters that have names generated by the game screwed up like the human edited ones???
    I don't think so. IIRC, auto-named rosters are OK.

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    Man, I just skimmed this thread and I am now dumber then before I started....

    Question: I downloaded Fairdale King roster before I started my dynasty. Are you telling me that all the players in my dynasty are messed up? So when I play the fast QBs who should be scramblers and run a lot they will be pocket passers? I have Nebraska and O$U left on the schedule, both of these QBs should be inclined to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    Man, I just skimmed this thread and I am now dumber then before I started....

    Question: I downloaded Fairdale King roster before I started my dynasty. Are you telling me that all the players in my dynasty are messed up? So when I play the fast QBs who should be scramblers and run a lot they will be pocket passers? I have Nebraska and O$U left on the schedule, both of these QBs should be inclined to run.
    Yes and no.

    From what I've gathered, the Player Tendency affects traits and certain player tendencies (EX: likelihood of scrambling) but it doesn't complete ignore player ratings. If Michigan QB #16 takes off, he's still going to be tough to catch. The Stanford QB is still going to have a strong arm and be accurate, though he may scramble more than he will post-patch.

    If you keep playing a Dynasty with that file, new players (recruits) that come in each offseason (following the patch) will be corrected. After the patch, the roster file will be fine in Play Now and for new Dynasties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyeguy View Post
    I'm just glad (away from hallway and Canada making football games) we have some pissed off gamers who are letting their feelings be known, makes me hope threads like these get EA to get their poop in a group and start producing games that the customers demand.
    Pissed off gamers get ignored.

    Gamers that actually create CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms are the ones that get heard. Going ballistic over a video game is never going to get your issues solved or even noticed.

    Truthfully, if they fixed recruiting where it wasn't a complete fuckin' bore and actually made ratings really and truly matter for every aspect of the game (instead of animations causing certain things to happen no matter what) then I'd be VERY happy with this game.

    Bugs happen. It's the bane of every programmer because, no matter how much you spend on quality control and testers, stuff is going to slip through the cracks, especially when you don't have more than probably 4 month to test out everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    I don't think so. IIRC, auto-named rosters are OK.
    I still can't believe people think this is an issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    Man, I just skimmed this thread and I am now dumber then before I started....

    Question: I downloaded Fairdale King roster before I started my dynasty. Are you telling me that all the players in my dynasty are messed up? So when I play the fast QBs who should be scramblers and run a lot they will be pocket passers? I have Nebraska and O$U left on the schedule, both of these QBs should be inclined to run.
    I've been hearing over and over about the player tendencies ruining gameplay, but I've yet to experience it at all. Jordan Jefferson scrambled for a 50+ yrd TD while spinning off my CB's tackle and juking my SS. And his tendency was a pocket passer btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I still can't believe people think this is an issue...
    To be fair, we've had a lot of OT discussion (putting it nicely for some posts) in this thread along with a lot of different community speculation over the past two weeks on what may or may not be the case in regards to the rosters. I'm at the point where I have to stop and think what is correct and isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    Yes and no.

    From what I've gathered, the Player Tendency affects traits and certain player tendencies (EX: likelihood of scrambling) but it doesn't complete ignore player ratings. If Michigan QB #16 takes off, he's still going to be tough to catch. The Stanford QB is still going to have a strong arm and be accurate, though he may scramble more than he will post-patch.

    If you keep playing a Dynasty with that file, new players (recruits) that come in each offseason (following the patch) will be corrected. After the patch, the roster file will be fine in Play Now and for new Dynasties.
    So will this effect how a CPU team recruits in an OD? Speaking of that, does anyone know how this works this year? Does Army only recruit scrambling QBs even if their current QBs are all balanced due to this roster issue? - Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    So will this effect how a CPU team recruits in an OD? Speaking of that, does anyone know how this works this year? Does Army only recruit scrambling QBs even if their current QBs are all balanced due to this roster issue? - Thanks
    I would guess it doesn't alter recruiting, but I honestly don't know. It depends when the tendency change in the UI occurs and where the game looks for Tendency. (When you go in to edit a player, they have correct tendency listed.)

    The game is designed for option teams to place a strong emphasis on recruiting Scrambling quarterbacks and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyser soze View Post
    So will this effect how a CPU team recruits in an OD? Speaking of that, does anyone know how this works this year? Does Army only recruit scrambling QBs even if their current QBs are all balanced due to this roster issue? - Thanks
    No it does not affect recruiting...I've seen Washington St. turn itself into a option based team with proper recruiting (and a demotion to the WAC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    That is a really long hallway, hope there are toilets and some Macdonald's along the way.

    I think the only thing that bothers me about this update is they really need to fix the QB throwing the ball out of bounds for no damn reason, and then they are in the box and don't get called for intentional grounding. So frustrating.
    McDonald's and toilets go hand in hand.

    As for intentional grounding it is rarely called in football unless ridiculously obvious. A QB just has to throw it within 10 yards of a receiver and no flag. Guys like Marino constantly threw the ball away to avoid a sack and I like this change.

    Any word on the cpu attempting incredibly long and impossible FGs on Heisman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I still can't believe people think this is an issue...
    Why -I don't see why not?

    EA thinks it's an issue...one that requires a fix in a patch no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    Any word on the cpu attempting incredibly long and impossible FGs on Heisman?
    had a recent game where the CPU tried a 57 yarder at the end of the half into the wind... i promptly returned it 99 yards for a touchdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    McDonald's and toilets go hand in hand.

    As for intentional grounding it is rarely called in football unless ridiculously obvious. A QB just has to throw it within 10 yards of a receiver and no flag. Guys like Marino constantly threw the ball away to avoid a sack and I like this change.
    I think he might be talking about when the CPU QB takes the snap and barely gets into his drop when he'll just wing it out of bounds. Either some sort of glitch thing or else the CPU AI instantly recognizes that you've got a blitz and excellent coverage on all the routes so nowhere to throw.............just a guess because it almost seems like a glitch with how quickly he'll wing it out of bounds.

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    It seems to really go hand and hand with a blitz so I'd lean more towards that then a glitch. I'd like to see something different in this situation but I don't think it's a glitch so to speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    I think he might be talking about when the CPU QB takes the snap and barely gets into his drop when he'll just wing it out of bounds. Either some sort of glitch thing or else the CPU AI instantly recognizes that you've got a blitz and excellent coverage on all the routes so nowhere to throw.............just a guess because it almost seems like a glitch with how quickly he'll wing it out of bounds.
    Exactly what I an talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    It seems to really go hand and hand with a blitz so I'd lean more towards that then a glitch. I'd like to see something different in this situation but I don't think it's a glitch so to speak.
    It has to be I mean its too obvious when they do it. So everytime I blitz they can just wing it out with no penalty? Seems like BS to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    It has to be I mean its too obvious when they do it. So everytime I blitz they can just wing it out with no penalty? Seems like BS to me
    Yea I agree about the look and feel of them throwing it away so quick. I'd like to see another step on there drop and then a quick outlet would be fine as long as it isn't often when it happens. Something to see what we can do now and in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    It has to be I mean its too obvious when they do it. So everytime I blitz they can just wing it out with no penalty? Seems like BS to me
    I agree with you guys as I think it happens on blitzes that you have coverage locked down as well...........I'll have to pay better attention if the pass being sailed out of bounds is in the direction of a receiver though which means it would be legit by the rules. And if that is the case, how come we don't have that option? Or the one STILL missing all these years to throw a screen pass into the dirt because the screen receiver is covered too well?

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