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    Ive become very interested in using sliders as I've become a better player. I'm tired of averaging 250+ yds with an avg running back in a passing offense and throwing for 300+ with scrambling qbs. My question is, since I normally play on Heisman (no sliders), and do alright (still getting weird #'s every once in awhile), will this actually help me get realistic stats since its on AA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kywildcat View Post
    Ive become very interested in using sliders as I've become a better player. I'm tired of averaging 250+ yds with an avg running back in a passing offense and throwing for 300+ with scrambling qbs. My question is, since I normally play on Heisman (no sliders), and do alright (still getting weird #'s every once in awhile), will this actually help me get realistic stats since its on AA?
    If you don't do sluider tweaks and are going to0 try these ones or ones similar, you will be in for a real shock. However, it makes the games so much more fun. Last night I lost to Washington in OT. You never know what happens when you play with the sliders...

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    That's exactly what I'm looking for. I'd like to work my way up the coaching ladder and actually have to WORK. I want to start as a cupcake get blown out by the big boys, and then have it tough in the conference where I actually have to worry about every team before I play them.

    EDIT:I mean I've turned the sliders all the way down on hum and up on cpu but then the game doesn't feel real, I'd like to find a happy median.

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    Absolutely demolished Rice, 54-0. They beat me last season, 40-21, so I enjoyed every minute of it.

    Rice had a new HC so they are now running AF's option playbook. Fail.

    Here's my rushing numbers:

    HB37: 21-146-2 (6.9, 57 LG)
    HB20: 8-41-1 (5.1, 21 LG)
    HB29: 8-45-0 (5.6, 11 LG)
    QB3: 6-(-2)-0 (12 LG)
    HB25: 3-50-1 (16.6, 23 LG)
    HB33: 2-9-1 (4.5, 8 LG)

    Statistically, this is a "throw away" game. Rice was so awful on offense, it upset the balance of every aspect of the game.

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    Went to 3-0 with a hard fought, 21-14, win at Purdue. Purdue is a Pro style team now.

    HB37: 26-130-1 (4.9, 31 LG)
    HB20: 6-3-1 (0.5, 3 LG)
    QB3: 4-(-25)-0

    I probably shouldn't beat Purdue. There's no way I would have without those 2 transfers.

    The biggest surprise so far in year 3 has been how efficient of a game-manager my RS So QB has been. He is 41-66 (62.1%) for 544 yds with 1 TD and no INTs. I knew going into the season that I had to cut down on the number of INTs I threw to help keep my ground game in play. Last season I threw, I believe, 24 INTs. (No adjustments have been made to anything that would affect pissing whatsoever).

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    Went to 3-0 with a hard fought, 21-14, win at Purdue. Purdue is a Pro style team now.

    HB37: 26-130-1 (4.9, 31 LG)
    HB20: 6-3-1 (0.5, 3 LG)
    QB3: 4-(-25)-0

    I probably shouldn't beat Purdue. There's no way I would have without those 2 transfers.

    The biggest surprise so far in year 3 has been how efficient of a game-manager my RS So QB has been. He is 41-66 (62.1%) for 544 yds with 1 TD and no INTs. I knew going into the season that I had to cut down on the number of INTs I threw to help keep my ground game in play. Last season I threw, I believe, 24 INTs. (No adjustments have been made to anything that would affect pissing whatsoever).

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    Well that's good. Making adjustments that would affect pissing could have some bad results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Well that's good. Making adjustments that would affect pissing could have some bad results.
    Every time I Swype "pass", my foul-mouthed phone types "piss". "Passing" becomes "pissing".

    I knew, eventually, I'd overlook it.

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    As an aside, just played a game in an offline dynasty with your sliders as Memphis against Louisville in season 2014.

    Lost 45-27

    Don't have the stats in front of me, but I was just the OC, but I threw for 300+ yards, 2 TDs, and 2 or 3 INTs (can't remember right off hand).

    Using mainly 4 and 5 WR sets, my running game was mainly QB scrambles and HB dives/draws. Don't quite remember how many yards I had, but it had to be close to 100 on ~15 rushes.

    Overall, it felt pretty good. Still had 5 or 6 sacks allowed (which annoys the hell out of me) and several hit while trying to throws happening as well. My offensive line is beyond atrocious though (all 60s and low 70s overall) so I was ok with it, in the end.

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    For the record, I recommend 7 or 8-minute quarters when playing as a coordinator.

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    Dropped a 24-14 decision at La. Tech to open conference play (I moved the Bulldogs to the Sun Belt this year and am now 0-3 against them).

    Rushing stats for ULL:

    HB37: 24-123-1 (5.1, 21 LG)
    QB3: 8-(-33)-0 (8 LG)
    HB20: 3-5-0 (5 LG)
    WR14: 1-4-0

    HB37 also had 92 yards on 4 catches (48 long).

    Following a LTU fumble, I had the ball at their 24, with a 14-7 lead, midway through the 3rd, and my QB threw his first pick of the season (he the another later in the game). It was returned 83 yards for a touchdown. That play turned the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    For the record, I recommend 7 or 8-minute quarters when playing as a coordinator.
    Yeah, I forgot to change them. I don't plan to play many games there as it was really just a test to see how I liked the sliders for once I get to 2015 to start my SAU dynasty. So far, the 100 CPU rush defense hasn't been anything weird, which I'm glad to see. I'm gonna play another game or two before I sim the rest of the season though as that past game was with the backup QB, who is just simply terrible (has low 70s for both accuracy and arm strength), where as, at least the starter is in the low 80s (which isn't great, but definitely more workable than the backup).

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    For the record, I recommend 7 or 8-minute quarters when playing as a coordinator.
    I played my entire first season at FIU at 9 minutes (because I forgot to change it at first, then just left it) and I actually didn't do too bad on stats and number of plays and whatnot.

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    Just played another game with Memphis in my dynasty leading up to bringing SAU in and taking them over in 2015.

    Played against Rice

    Memphis C- C- offense/defense
    Rice C- C offense/defense

    Using my pass happy CPB that's basically nothing but 4/5 WR Shotgun formations:

    Beat them 51-14
    Racked up 655 yards of offense against them
    38 rushes for 161 yards and 2 TDs (about 50-60 of it was garbage time 4th quarter goalline formation+chew clock running - pretty sure, before that, I was averaging a good 6.5+ with my HB out of HB Draw/Dive/Counter plays against 4-5 men in the box defenses)
    33/45 (73.3%) passing for 494 yards (10.97 per attempt) and 5 TDs - had a few big plays (including a 90 somethin' yard corner post where the CB totally whiffed on the tackle and it was good night sweetheart to the endzone from there) so that probably accounts for the way too high YPA)
    Had 30 First Downs (mainly was throwing intermediate/short/screens to attempt to get the CPU to cheat up/play man coverage to give me more open space down field/running lanes).

    Considering the amount of time I had the ball (something ridiculous like 25 minutes or so out of 36), I'm ok with having been able to run 83 plays. I run an uptempo offense that excels at short-medium range passes to keep the yards to go short and probably have anywhere from 10-15 plays per scoring drive most of the time.

    Overall, I really like the sliders now. The CPU DT still had fuckin' 4 sacks himself (along with 6 sacks given up), but, again, Memphis's current offensive line is atrocious at this point, so it's to be expected. Just wish DTs where so damn super powered compared to edge rushers who are neutered beyond belief.

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    Thanks for the feedback, mors.

    I have thought a lot lately about toning down the CPU pass rush, but it would take some heavy testing. I would think it would necessitate some changes to CPU coverage and User pass accuracy.

    I need to play done games with a good team to see is sacks are problematic with a good line.

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    I need some help from those that are using my sliders.

    I'm trying to work on the CPU Pass Rush. In looking at ULL's numbers from 2010, their % of dropbacks that resulted in a sack was 8%. Obviously, this number varies quite a bit from team to team and there are 101 variables.

    In my current season (year 3), my ULL squad has allowed sacks on 12.8% of dropbacks. Obviously, that is too high.

    For anyone that is using my sliders in a Dynasty, I'd like to know what team your using, how many pass attempts you have, and how many sacks you've allowed. This will help me get an idea of how much of an adjustment is needed.

    If you aren't using my sliders fully (ie you've made some changes), please let me know which ones you've changed (that will help me determine if your data is useful to me).

    The reality of the situation is that making downward adjustments to the CPU rush may necessitate an increase in their coverage abilities and/or a decrease in the User Pass Accuracy. This will help keep things in balance so we can't just pick the CPU defense apart.

    If anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it.

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    Steeler,

    I made the personal choice of NOT changing cpu pass rush or Hum blocking. Yes, the sacks are too somwhat too high. However, like you say, if you open up that can of worms the you will need to do serious tweaks on cpu pass D. There are a lot of sacks in the game but I have to believe that this will receive a tuner pack update asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Steeler,

    I made the personal choice of NOT changing cpu pass rush or Hum blocking. Yes, the sacks are too somwhat too high. However, like you say, if you open up that can of worms the you will need to do serious tweaks on cpu pass D. There are a lot of sacks in the game but I have to believe that this will receive a tuner pack update asap.
    I understand. Actually, my sliders for those 2 items sit at 50 right now, too.

    I'm also hopeful that a tuner set will take care of some of the problem and, trust me, I've done all I can do to make my voice heard about the issue and, specifically, the CPU QB holding on to the ball.

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    At the moment, I've only played 1 game with SAU, but with an offensive line that looks like this:

    79 76 71 76 75

    I threw the ball 59 times and got sacked 5 times or 8.474%


    I'll let you know how it goes against Boston College as I'm about to play my next game in my SAU dynasty right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    At the moment, I've only played 1 game with SAU, but with an offensive line that looks like this:

    79 76 71 76 75

    I threw the ball 59 times and got sacked 5 times or 8.474%


    I'll let you know how it goes against Boston College as I'm about to play my next game in my SAU dynasty right now.
    Actually, that's 7.8% (5 sacks in 64 dropbacks).

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    Oh yes, you're correct. My bad.

    Current year total:

    121 total attempts and sacked 10 times = 8.264%

    More from today's game against :
    Was sacked 5 times in 57 attempts = 8.771%

    My line: 79 76 71 76 75

    vs

    's front 4: 83 84 78 76

    Their front 4 accounted for 3 of the 5 sacks - 2 1/2 from DTs
    Last edited by morsdraconis; 08-04-2011 at 06:17 PM.

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