View Poll Results: Your Take on Coaching Carousel

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  • Love it, but want more next year

    42 73.68%
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  1. #141
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    I'm loving CC! This feature allows me to see all the different conferences, experience the intense rivalries, and strategize against the different coaches and their playbooks. So far in year 6 of my off-line dynasty:
    -Bama has won the last 2 NCs. Before that, OK won the first and in the forth year.
    -Troy and UCF have scooped up some great recruiting classes and both have been in the Top 25 after year two.

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    What is the most fun for me is watching programmes change. Washington is now #7. They have for the last two seasons developed a RUN AND SHOOT offense and are recruting accordingly. Also, Ohio under Casteel's leadership and becoming a non BCS powerhouse. To the same extent you can see how many "legends" have come crashing down (eg Mack Brown, etc.). Now I see Mark Dantonio is on the job axe watch. One thing I will be interested to see is if these "great" coaches ever get a chance again.

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    One issue that is becoming a little concerning for me at this point... cpu progression increases are way out of whack. The avg player will progress 5-6 points per off season. My starting QB is now a 97 and his backup is 96 (maybe 30 snaps over two seasons). The issues can be fixed by having player editing but hopfeully this can be tuned as the players are just progressing too much too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    One issue that is becoming a little concerning for me at this point... cpu progression increases are way out of whack. The avg player will progress 5-6 points per off season. My starting QB is now a 97 and his backup is 96 (maybe 30 snaps over two seasons). The issues can be fixed by having player editing but hopfeully this can be tuned as the players are just progressing too much too fast.
    This is becoming more of an issue that recruits coming in w/ those wacky height/weight differences. I just played against UNC with a 99 jr(rs) Qb and a 96 sr Qb. this has to be addressed. I think player progression should be affected by performance, coach prestige, and athletic facilities or some variation of it. I know I can go in and edit ratings, but with having multiple dynasties it would be too time consuming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitman625 View Post
    This is becoming more of an issue that recruits coming in w/ those wacky height/weight differences. I just played against UNC with a 99 jr(rs) Qb and a 96 sr Qb. this has to be addressed. I think player progression should be affected by performance, coach prestige, and athletic facilities or some variation of it. I know I can go in and edit ratings, but with having multiple dynasties it would be too time consuming.
    Yup, I am a big beleiver in performance based progression. If you don't hit the field and get the reps you should not progress as quickly.

  6. #146
    Came across an interesting nugget last night...I just advanced to the bowl weeks in my Dynasty's third season. Most bowls seem to make sense, except for the BCS National Championship game. It features:

    vs.

    Both teams are in the Pac-12's northern division.

    I didn't look at the schedules for each team, but I seem to remember both schools had one loss. I just find it funny that one of those teams didn't even make it to the Pac-12 conference championship game, but is playing for the NC.

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    Ok, so I just wanted to point out some other details of my Oregon vs. Oregon State national championship game.

    Both Coaches and Media polls have Oregon (12-1 record) has the No. 1 team in the nation. They beat No. 18 Arizona in the Pac 12 championship, beat Oregon State the week before 30-27, and took over the No. 1 spot due to an Alabama loss in the SEC title game vs. No. 11 Georgia.

    Additionally, the Coaches poll has 11-1 Oregon State as No. 2 and the Media poll has 11-1 Boise State as No. 2. Oregon State received zero first place votes in either poll - Boise had 11 in the Coaches and 20 in the Media.

    The BCS has Oregon State and Boise State both 'tied' at No. 2 with .992 points. To me, it looks like the difference is that Oregon State went to No. 17 Oklahoma in week one and won 35-17, while Boise's only win vs. a ranked opponent was over No. 7 Nevada at home in a conference game, 51-35. All of Boise's nonconference games were against teams with .500 records or worse. Interestingly enough, Oregon's only loss during the year was a nonconference game against Nevada in Reno.

    Also, while Oregon State's only loss was at the hands of No. 1 Oregon, Boise's only loss was against Colorado State. That also played a role, I imagine.

    And lastly, no teams finished undefeated. Several other one-loss teams missed opportunities as well. As I mentioned, Alabama's only loss was in the SEC title game and knocked them down to No. 6. NC State also finished with one loss, at the hands of Wake Forest (the team I control as Head Coach ). NC State managed to win out, defeating Virginia Tech in the ACC championship, but finished at No. 5 in the BCS.

    I just wanted to post this info since two conference teams playing each other in the NC is rare, but two teams in the same DIVISION in a conference is unheard of. It's a very interesting scenario.
    Last edited by ScubaSteve007; 08-02-2011 at 07:28 PM.

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    Dumb, just dumb. I just watched the PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (UW vs UCLA). I don't like how the PAC 12 puts the conference championship game at the school with the best record... SO... this past off season I moved the game to INVESCO FIELD (Denver). WTF??? The field art isn't neutral, it has the Colorado vs Colorado St info on it. Why??? What is the point of being able to move conference championship games if the field art stays the same???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Dumb, just dumb. I just watched the PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (UW vs UCLA). I don't like how the PAC 12 puts the conference championship game at the school with the best record... SO... this past off season I moved the game to INVESCO FIELD (Denver). WTF??? The field art isn't neutral, it has the Colorado vs Colorado St info on it. Why??? What is the point of being able to move conference championship games if the field art stays the same???
    I noticed this as well, when I moved the C-USA championship game to the "Red River Shootout" stadium(don't know the name), I wanted to quit when I saw the texas-ou field art for a Rice-Houston matchup. How hard would it have been to change up the field art or just remove it.

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    This should be interesting: Arizona St after going 3-9 the past TWO years FIRED Dennis Erikson. What's really interesting is that their HC hire is an OPTION OC. So ASU is going from AIR RAID to OPTION. Talk about a huge shift in philosophy. What's also really interesting is that Washington St is also an OPTION team so the PAC 12 will have:

    2 option teams
    1 run and shoot
    1 one back
    4 pro
    3 spread
    1 multiple (me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Dumb, just dumb. I just watched the PAC 12 CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (UW vs UCLA). I don't like how the PAC 12 puts the conference championship game at the school with the best record... SO... this past off season I moved the game to INVESCO FIELD (Denver). WTF??? The field art isn't neutral, it has the Colorado vs Colorado St info on it. Why??? What is the point of being able to move conference championship games if the field art stays the same???
    Quote Originally Posted by hitman625 View Post
    I noticed this as well, when I moved the C-USA championship game to the "Red River Shootout" stadium(don't know the name), I wanted to quit when I saw the texas-ou field art for a Rice-Houston matchup. How hard would it have been to change up the field art or just remove it.
    I agree, the lack of dynamic logos on stadium signage & uniforms hurts when switching conferences, etc. but I think they would have to do considerable rework to get that in there. It may not be that difficult since they already have the dynamic conference logos for field art, but at the least it would probably be time-consuming to do it for all the stadiums and/or uniforms. It's a worthy item to note and discuss though. I'm all for details and it would be pretty cool to have.

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    I agree, the lack of dynamic logos on stadium signage & uniforms hurts when switching conferences
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they have a bunch of generic stadiums for use on TeamBuilder? Why can't we use those stadiums for conference championship games...the only field art they have to edit would be for teams playing in the championship game(which they are able to do in bowl games). That or let us create some stadiums(which takes me on a completely different tangent).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaSteve007 View Post
    Came across an interesting nugget last night...I just advanced to the bowl weeks in my Dynasty's third season. Most bowls seem to make sense, except for the BCS National Championship game. It features:

    vs.

    Both teams are in the Pac-12's northern division.

    I didn't look at the schedules for each team, but I seem to remember both schools had one loss. I just find it funny that one of those teams didn't even make it to the Pac-12 conference championship game, but is playing for the NC.
    Had the same thing happen in my dynasty Washington with one loss played arizona for the PAC 12 title. Washington won then played USC for the BCS national with 2 losses and didn't even play for the conference title. Very frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdj View Post
    I agree, the lack of dynamic logos on stadium signage & uniforms hurts when switching conferences, etc. but I think they would have to do considerable rework to get that in there. It may not be that difficult since they already have the dynamic conference logos for field art, but at the least it would probably be time-consuming to do it for all the stadiums and/or uniforms. It's a worthy item to note and discuss though. I'm all for details and it would be pretty cool to have.
    I would be totally okay if the FIELD surface was blank (no logos, writing, etc). That may be a fair compromise???

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    Quote Originally Posted by griffin2608 View Post
    Had the same thing happen in my dynasty Washington with one loss played arizona for the PAC 12 title. Washington won then played USC for the BCS national with 2 losses and didn't even play for the conference title. Very frustrating.
    I agree it's messed up, but after I dug into the teams' schedules, nonconference games, losses, etc., it made a bit more sense. The part that bothers me the most is that Oregon State didn't get any 1st place votes in either poll, yet still managed to somehow be ranked No. 2 over Boise, who had the exact same BCS score and at least 11 first place votes in both polls.
    Last edited by ScubaSteve007; 08-04-2011 at 02:28 PM.

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    As I start season SIX, two things stand out to me that are a concern.

    1. FB's... I created 74ovr and 77ovr Fullbacks to make the pool better and they enter recruiting as 1ovr star. Clearly this is broken!

    2. Team/player progression is out of control... it's way, way too fast, just like last year before the patch. I did a count of the 120 programmes by star rating as I start season six.

    A+ 5 (3 OF WHICH ARE 99 OVR)
    A 11
    A- 8
    B+ 27
    B 13
    B- 21
    C+ 11
    C 13
    C- 7
    D+ 3

    For the 2nd straight year I have a 99 ovr starting QB (last year's backup). My kickers are 96 and 93 respectively and I have 7 or 8 other players who are in the 90's... I'm CAL so you know that just aint right

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    Yeah, that's a bit concerning. I had a transfer come over from Miami (FL) during the offseason at the end of year 1 in my FIU dynasty, Storm Johnson, one of Miami's HBs. Transferring over as a Sophomore, he got a 4 point bump in training, so he's rated 88 overall now.

    He'll be at least low 90s by next year as a redshirt Junior after sitting out this year and is finally available to be used on my roster. So he could potentially make it up to 99 overall or very close to it by the time he hits his senior season for me.

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    So I am sure this has to have been mentioned, I am going to use spoiler tags because some people in my OD thought it was a bit questionable but.......

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    If you decline a job offer, others will come up. I am not sure how often you can decline before you run out of jobs but it does happen

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    Might be another issue I found. In my sixth season I am looking at my schedule and realised somethnig was off. All my division games are played in geographic order.

    Eg

    vs. Washington
    @ Washington St.
    vs Oregon
    @ Oregon St.
    etc.

    I hope this is just a glitch this season because I find it really annoying...???...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oweb26 View Post
    So I am sure this has to have been mentioned, I am going to use spoiler tags because some people in my OD thought it was a bit questionable but.......

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    If you decline a job offer, others will come up. I am not sure how often you can decline before you run out of jobs but it does happen
    What exactly are you talking about? The whole point of coaching carousel is that you can decline a job offer and wait for a better one, or suffer the consequences of doing so. Are you trying to describe something different?

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