Coaching Carousel: Love It or Hate It?

[steelerfan]

I think Joe Pa is retiring in 2013 for everyone. He did in my test Online Dynasty, and did in my test offline Dynasty. I want to think one of the community day guys said there is a certain age limit that coaches will retire within a year or two of reaching. Regardless of what the actual number is, Joe Pa is WAAAY over that number. So he's pretty much done and gone in 2013 for everyone.

No. Paterno retired after the first season for me.

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[JBHuskers]

In a couple of my many tests with this, there were some instances that Paterno stuck around for two years, and one instance where he stuck around three, but as you know the majority was one.

[PeteyKirch]

Navy is now running the Air Raid with Norm Chow as HC. Talk about hilarious.

[SmoothPancakes]

Navy is now running the Air Raid with Norm Chow as HC. Talk about hilarious.

Blasphemy!

[JBHuskers]

Navy is now running the Air Raid with Norm Chow as HC. Talk about hilarious.

Are they actually running that offense too? I'm curious to see how that plays out.

[jaymo76]

Are they actually running that offense too? I'm curious to see how that plays out.

I really don't know if the changes are as they should be. Washington St is now a flexbone option... they passed the ball 45 times and only ran for 32. I will need to watch a few more games to see if things are actually doing what they should.

[PeteyKirch]

Are they actually running that offense too? I'm curious to see how that plays out.

Yes they are running it, they went from about 45-50 carries a game to down to 10-15, and about 50 pass attempts. It's hysterically bad since this in 2013 and they have QBs with like 68 THP.

[jaymo76]

There might be some problems with CC regarding coaches and their offensive/defensive styles. Last night I played against Syracuse (my old team). They are now an "AIR RAID" team yet they ran the ball 60% of the time and most sets had a FB/TE. HERE'S THE THING THOUGH... the load screen says they are AIR RAID because the NEW OC is AIR RAID. The head coach is PRO STYLE and cleary that was the game style. Following this up I started a game as Washington St. They are now an OPTION TEAM, or so I thought... on the load screen they are listed as PRO STYLE even though the HC is OPTION. So I checked it out and the OC is PRO style. However, this isn't always the case. For example, Washington's NEW HC is RUN AND SHOOT... and their offense is RUN and SHOOT. So the washington example works, why doesn't WSU and Syracuse???

Intrigued by this I decided to "change" some HC philosohpies. When I went to play the games, the offensive philosophy had not changed. Is this "broken" or is this a CPU safeguard where changes are not recognized during the season in order to not to break recruiting guides? I don't know the answer. Either way this is something to watch out for in your own dynasty. I encourage you to actually "play" teams with new philosophies and see if they have changed. My results thus far are a little dissheartening.

[jaymo76]

Two other things that stand out:

1. National championship game Auburn defeated FRESNO St.???
2. I just recorded 14 sacks against WSU.... please EA, please tune DE sacks!!!

[SmoothPancakes]

Two other things that stand out:

1. National championship game Auburn defeated FRESNO St.???
2. I just recorded 14 sacks against WSU.... please EA, please tune DE sacks!!!

I've seen worse. Year 3 of a fully simulated dynasty, UCF defeated Ohio (Bobcats) for the national championship.

[souljahbill]

There might be some problems with CC regarding coaches and their offensive/defensive styles. Last night I played against Syracuse (my old team). They are now an "AIR RAID" team yet they ran the ball 60% of the time and most sets had a FB/TE. HERE'S THE THING THOUGH... the load screen says they are AIR RAID because the NEW OC is AIR RAID. The head coach is PRO STYLE and cleary that was the game style. Following this up I started a game as Washington St. They are now an OPTION TEAM, or so I thought... on the load screen they are listed as PRO STYLE even though the HC is OPTION. So I checked it out and the OC is PRO style. However, this isn't always the case. For example, Washington's NEW HC is RUN AND SHOOT... and their offense is RUN and SHOOT. So the washington example works, why doesn't WSU and Syracuse???

Intrigued by this I decided to "change" some HC philosohpies. When I went to play the games, the offensive philosophy had not changed. Is this "broken" or is this a CPU safeguard where changes are not recognized during the season in order to not to break recruiting guides? I don't know the answer. Either way this is something to watch out for in your own dynasty. I encourage you to actually "play" teams with new philosophies and see if they have changed. My results thus far are a little dissheartening.

Maybe the HC's offense/defense is really what determines the school's style of play.


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[oweb26]

I've seen worse. Year 3 of a fully simulated dynasty, UCF defeated Ohio (Bobcats) for the national championship.

Smooth I normally get quite a few DE sacks, but I have to ask are you sure your sliders arent affecting those numbers? I normally get around 5-8 in one game which is extremely high in itself. Do you have the agressive D-Line on?

[SmoothPancakes]

Smooth I normally get quite a few DE sacks, but I have to ask are you sure your sliders arent affecting those numbers? I normally get around 5-8 in one game which is extremely high in itself. Do you have the agressive D-Line on?

I actually have no idea how many sacks I could get per game as I haven't played much defense in 12. I have been pretty much entirely in dynasty as Offensive Coordinator of Florida International, both in my offline dynasty and in the Xbox 360 Coach Mode OD.

As for the 4 games that I have played in my offline dynasty, these are the sacks numbers that I have recorded for both teams, both being sacked by the CPU, and number of sacks my CPU defense has achieved.


Now, I did have one game, I think against UCF, when I was originally doing my CC dynasty as an Online Dynasty before I switched to offline, where I was sacked 10 times by the UCF defense, including 6 times in the 4th quarter alone. But that was the only game that I saw sack numbers get that high.

[jaymo76]

Interesting observation... I am 8-2 with Cal. Last night I was obliterated 31-19 by lowly Oregon St. It was 31-7 with with 3 mins to go and I got lucky with an onside and two td's (missed 2pts). Earlier in the season I laost in a blowout to USC. I have been non-stop tweaking my sliders to make the cpu more competitive. In these two games I lost the cpu run/pass game has been awesome. So what do the two losses have in common? Both losses have come against PRO STYLE...two games versus this style and two losses. Most teams I have played run SPREAD. It seems like other than PRO STYLE the cpu just can't compete...

[ScubaSteve007]

I love the idea of the Coaching Carousel, but am a bit disappointed in the execution of it. I know the rapidly increasing coach prestige issue has be discussed before, but it's just crazy to see even user coaches gain prestige so quickly.

In my offline Dynasty as an OC, I started at Florida Atlantic and went 6-6 in year one. I was then hired by Texas Tech as the OC (I was still a D+ prestige) before year two. After the second season (I went 10-3 with TTU), I was offer the head coaching position at Wake Forest. Granted, WF is now a one-star school coming off a 3-9 season, but I am all the way up to a B+ prestige coach!

So from D to B+ in three years. I know people play with house rules to prevent rapid movement through the ranks, but that's just crazy to see how fast coaches progress.

[OptionMasta]

I also think that coaches who fail regress pretty quickly as well. I don't have concrete evidence of this but looking at the coaches in my dynasty some of them had terrible prestige levels despite being at big schools. One bad season shouldn't make a coach's prestige lower by a ton either.

[morsdraconis]

I also think that coaches who fail regress pretty quickly as well. I don't have concrete evidence of this but looking at the coaches in my dynasty some of them had terrible prestige levels despite being at big schools. One bad season shouldn't make a coach's prestige lower by a ton either.

If they have high expectations and they fail them all, I definitely think they should. No coach at a big school should have a pass for doing terrible. You're at a big school to win. If you don't, it's time to find someone who can.

[PeteyKirch]

Simmed to 2014, and now things are getting interesting.

Jimbo Fisher was fired from FSU (Now the OC at FAU), same for Les Miles at LSU (Now the OC at UCLA), Brady Hoke at Michigan (Now DC at Western Michigan), Skip Holtz got canned at USF (Now the OC at ND). To me, the funniest thing being a Rutgers fan is that former RU QB Ryan Cubit is now the HC at FSU.

[ScubaSteve007]

I've seen worse. Year 3 of a fully simulated dynasty, UCF defeated Ohio (Bobcats) for the national championship.

Season 2 in my Dynasty:

Nevada defeated Wisconsin for the Nat'l Championship.

[ScubaSteve007]

If they have high expectations and they fail them all, I definitely think they should. No coach at a big school should have a pass for doing terrible. You're at a big school to win. If you don't, it's time to find someone who can.

This is interesting because I have heard elsewhere that Mack Brown went five losing seasons at Texas in someone's Dynasty before they finally gave him the ax. I would image that he ended his tenure for the Longhorns in the D range for prestige with the way coach progression/regression is in NCAA 12.