Coaching Carousel: Love It or Hate It?

[OptionMasta]

I lost to Syracuse last night with Pitt jaymo! Talk about wanting to throw a controller . Honestly, I like Syracuse IRL and they're the team in the Big East I hope turns it around more than anybody.

Anyways, I don't want this to just be ragging on EA but why can they never get simulation things correct? These are the things that I think should be easiest to correct but yet they continue to have issues with them year after year. Whether it's statistics being inaccurate and completely unrealistic or players developing too quickly, or K and P recruits all being rated too low and sucking huge balls, or now having way too many coaches who are in the A range in prestige. Add the super sim issue (which has been well documented in the past) to the list of issues with simulation and non-game play issues they can't get right.

To test out the coaching carousel, I picked TCU. With Gary Patterson I was getting offers to coach 2* teams or be the DC for a 3* team. What's up with that? Is this because of the number coaches having too high a prestige rating?

[jaymo76]

Yeah, Option Masta, I am enjoying the mode but my biggest gripe bar far has to be the supersim issues and their relation to the wacky stats. The cpu just can't figure out how a cpu should play a ball control offense. I swear by the time I leave Syracuse I will have set every single offensive record because I get so many possessions.

[griffin2608]

Voted love it but want more. The supersim issue should be fixed. I tried to play as a d coordinator but it wasnt fun with the sim issue and next year I thing you should be able to play both side of the ball if you want to. Yea I am a d coordinator but I should be able to play the game however I want to.

[souljahbill]

Voted love it but want more. The supersim issue should be fixed. I tried to play as a d coordinator but it wasnt fun with the sim issue and next year I thing you should be able to play both side of the ball if you want to. Yea I am a d coordinator but I should be able to play the game however I want to.

Just be a head coach.


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[griffin2608]

Just be a head coach.


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Yes that is what I did but there was a game by 989 studios college game day? I think that had the same idea but you could play the whole game if you wanted. The mode right now is broken with the sim issue. If you had the option of playing you would not have to restart the dynasty. I will never agree with the less options trend that has taken over the genre let me choose to play the game how I see fit.

[souljahbill]

Yes that is what I did but there was a game by 989 studios college game day? I think that had the same idea but you could play the whole game if you wanted. The mode right now is broken with the sim issue. If you had the option of playing you would not have to restart the dynasty. I will never agree with the less options trend that has taken over the genre let me choose to play the game how I see fit.

Being a coordinator and controlling both sides of the ball kinda defeats the purpose.


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[griffin2608]

Being a coordinator and controlling both sides of the ball kinda defeats the purpose.


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To you maybe, not to me. Playing the mode as a coordinator as it is now is broken. To me the mode feels unconnected between what is going on on d and o and special teams. At least give us an option to watch the action with out having to go through the super sim screen. The only advancement you have would depend on your goals as either the o or d coordinator. If you wanted to play the whole game I feel like you should have the option to. That's my opinion, you are entitled to yours.

[jaymo76]

In season two as Syracuse OC I am now 2-4. I have NEVER been 2-4 in the history of the NCAA series!!!. I was dismantled 41-7 at West Virginia. My QB's combined for FIVE pics. This was the worst game I have EVER played. Angry at the time but upon reflection it was great to see. I might actually miss the bowl season. I have NEVER not been invited to a bowl game...

[souljahbill]

In season two as Syracuse OC I am now 2-4. I have NEVER been 2-4 in the history of the NCAA series!!!. I was dismantled 41-7 at West Virginia. My QB's combined for FIVE pics. This was the worst game I have EVER played. Angry at the time but upon reflection it was great to see. I might actually miss the bowl season. I have NEVER not been invited to a bowl game...

I was 5-7 my 1st season as the OC on my TB team. I met all my goals outside of win 8 games but my HC got fired. I got promoted to HC in the offseason (the old HC became the DC at Utah St. and the HC of Central Michigan became my new OC).


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[JBHuskers]

In season two as Syracuse OC I am now 2-4. I have NEVER been 2-4 in the history of the NCAA series!!!. I was dismantled 41-7 at West Virginia. My QB's combined for FIVE pics. This was the worst game I have EVER played. Angry at the time but upon reflection it was great to see. I might actually miss the bowl season. I have NEVER not been invited to a bowl game...

It is great to see. I barely got by Bowling Green and didn't really impress against North Dakota in my Idaho offline dynasty, then I played Texas A&M and got completely shellacked.

[jaymo76]

Last night after a marathon of games (man was I tired this morning as I headed out the door for my oldest son's baseball/t-ball class) I brought my record to 5-6. I was sitting at 3-6 after losing a defensive (and awful to watch) game to UCONN. After benching my starting QB and modifying my playbook to a custom run heavy I AND Shotgun set I had a convincing win against Cincinatti and an upset shocker against Rutgers. My last game is against USF (#22). For any shot at a bowl I have to win... very unlikely.

Three observations~

-bonus given for a win against a better ranked team (OC gets more points than DC/HC why???)
-% points taken away if you lose to a lower ranked team (OC loses more than a DC/HC) why???)
-I have the lowest job securty (64%) in the BIG EAST but have failed ZERO goals... how is 1-11 Cincy coordinator at 87%???

[OptionMasta]

In my first season with Pitt (OC) I am 9-3 with losses to VT, Cuse, and WVU. I'm really pissed at myself for losing to Cuse because I had the far better team but also pissed about the loss to WVU because I didn't realize I was only down by 6 with 40+ seconds left in the 4th. I had thrown a pick on the drive before and just expected that the CPU scored a TD on me. Instead of playing the series out I just kind of dicked around because I thought I was finished.

Anyways, it's an invite to the Champ's Sports Bowl against UNC for me. I'm hoping to win that and then see the carousel again.

[OptionMasta]

I lost to UNC big in the Champs Sports Bowl. I played until the half because I was so disgusted with the way things were going. I was down 14-0 before I even took control of the offense (a fumbled kickoff return I believe) and threw a stick route and watched the CPU CB warp through my WR for the INT. I figured enough was enough.

I then got no HC offers in the offseason. At this point, I can't wait to get a HC offer so that I can play defense. I'm getting pretty sick of the Super Sim issues. Not only does the CPU have quick drives, they're also nearly always for TDs against me it seems. I want to get in there and stop them!

[jaymo76]

I managed to win three straight and made it to 6-6 with a shocking upset of USF 31-28 (with 13 seconds left I hit a FG). A s a result I am off to the terribly named Beef o' Brady bowl vs Houston. I AM AT 70% APPROVAL but still a C level coach. Kids off to bed... it's bowl time.

[Mario8267]

I like it so far..... A few buddies and I created a one star dynasty as an OC. It's been cool so far, the games are super short. One bad thing is there really isn't a game flow feel to it. But I'm glad they added it.

[jaymo76]

End of season two carousel: Syracuse 7-6 (victory over Houston 49-38) in Beef O’Brady Bowl

Observations:
-Kansas State HC FIRED… WVU oc& /dc (Bill Bedenbaugh/Jeff Casteel) IN THE RUNNING… the job goes to Illinois (Vic Koenning)
-WVU coordinators up for Boston College HC ~goes to BC DC Bill McGovern
-WVU coordinators up for OHIO HC… finally Jeff Casteel is given the job
-Bill Bedenbaugh finally hired as LSU head coach~ LSU moves to an AIR RAID offense
-Washington HC Steve Sarkisian was fired and up for his job.. TEXAS A&M Coordinators Tom Rossley (OC) AND Tim DeRuyter (DC)… JOB GOES TO Rossley
-I was in the running for the OC of Utah… but it went to John Shoop of UNC
-In the running for Clemson OC but didn’t get it
-No carousel… simply offered Conneticut OC… I turned it down (no benefit)
-In the running for NC State OC… but didn’t get it
-In the running for New Mexico HC but didn’t get it
-Offered the North Carolina OC… rejected it
-Offered ULL HC… rejected
-Offered UNLV… rejected it because I was up for UTEP… didn’t get an offer 
-Offered OC for Kansas…. Rejected
-Offered OC for NAVY… rejected
-Offered… NEVADA, VIRGINIA, WESTERN MICHIGAN, IDAHO, ULM to be the OC… rejected them all.

Near the end of the carousel a lot of generic cpu coaches were in the running. This year DC’s were the big hires for head coaches. However, as I look at some of the coaches available who didn’t get offers, I shake my head. The Syracuse DC is a B+ with an 80% approval yet gor ZERO offers while 9 generics with D ratings were hired…why????

Also there were only FOUR carousel this year. Pretty much every job was decided without a carousel. I love this feature but it wasn’t a ton of fun in year two. Next year I am taking an HC job no questions asked. My contract is up and I need a change!

Just as a side note... there were only 16 head coach jobs available this year and FIVE were from retirement.

[morsdraconis]

Damn, that's a HUGE blow to WVU's defense losing Jeff Casteel. He's one of the truly great defensive minds out there (and relatively unknown as well). Interesting that he went to Ohio as the HC instead of a higher prestige school. What's Ohio's prestige now and what was Casteel's Coach Prestige rating?

[jaymo76]

Damn, that's a HUGE blow to WVU's defense losing Jeff Casteel. He's one of the truly great defensive minds out there (and relatively unknown as well). Interesting that he went to Ohio as the HC instead of a higher prestige school. What's Ohio's prestige now and what was Casteel's Coach Prestige rating?

I think Ohio is a 2star but I know for a fact that both Casteel AND Bedenbaugh were both A+ PRESTIGE WITH 100% JOB APPROVAL before the carousel began. Some of the major candidates went to the crappiest jobs (eg Akron).

[SmoothPancakes]

I think Ohio is a 2star but I know for a fact that both Casteel AND Bedenbaugh were both A+ PRESTIGE WITH 100% JOB APPROVAL before the carousel began. Some of the major candidates went to the crappiest jobs (eg Akron).

What is Casteel's Alma Mater in the game? I know when I went through and edited the names and Alma Maters of head coaches in FK's roster file, there was only maybe 15 or 20 HCs who had their Alma Mater set correctly. I can't imagine the OCs and DCs were any better. It could be a possible explanation for why some of the big name coordinators when to some of the most random schools.

[morsdraconis]

What is Casteel's Alma Mater in the game? I know when I went through and edited the names and Alma Maters of head coaches in FK's roster file, there was only maybe 15 or 20 HCs who had their Alma Mater set correctly. I can't imagine the OCs and DCs were any better. It could be a possible explanation for why some of the big name coordinators when to some of the most random schools.

That was my thinking as well. His alma mater in real life is Cal of PA, which, obviously, can't be put in the game, so I would image, if they did set it to anything, it would be UTEP (his first real Div I coaching job). Before that, he was at Glenville State College in WV and Shepard College in WV before coming to WVU in 2001 with Rich Rod.