Playbook Questions

[ThaShark316]

Unfortunately (and I'm not sure why) there are no Sweeps or Motion Options in 4WR Pistol formations. The closest you'll be able to do it is Pistol - Slot... it has both Jet Sweep (including PA) and Motion Option.

There are 7 passes and 5 runs from Ace - Panther Trips. It is largely the same as Y-Trips (other than less plays), however one small wrinkle is that the Power-O has the TE line up on the opposite side of the formation and then motion into place (there's also a PA off this), similar to some of the formations that include a 2nd TE as a Wing.

Question:

Does Pistol - Trey Open have the same type of plays as Y-Trips?

[gschwendt]

Question:

Does Pistol - Trey Open have the same type of plays as Y-Trips?

Probably last playbook specific question I'll answer but...
Yes, it does appear to have similar plays to what you'd see in a Y-Trips.

I'll still answer any questions about Custom Playbooks, etc. but nothing formation specific, primarily just stuff like impressions, functionality, etc.

[ThaShark316]

Thanks man.

I'm sure I'll come up with something, lol.

[SpreadOption]

Unfortunately (and I'm not sure why) there are no Sweeps or Motion Options in 4WR Pistol formations. The closest you'll be able to do it is Pistol - Slot... it has both Jet Sweep (including PA) and Motion Option.

Damn. Bummer

[Unconquered]

There are 7 passes and 5 runs from Ace - Panther Trips. It is largely the same as Y-Trips (other than less plays), however one small wrinkle is that the Power-O has the TE line up on the opposite side of the formation and then motion into place (there's also a PA off this), similar to some of the formations that include a 2nd TE as a Wing.

Wicked -- thanks for the taking the time to scout that formation. Sounds like it's worthy of being added to my Ace arsenal.

[mrh61988]

I saw that in the demo Oregon's playbook has 15 plays out of the Shotgun "Ace" formation, I was wondering if there are any additional plays you can add via the custom playbooks from that specific formation.

[Unconquered]

I saw that in the demo Oregon's playbook has 15 plays out of the Shotgun "Ace" formation, I was wondering if there are any additional plays you can add via the custom playbooks from that specific formation.

Check out the custom playbooks video at 10:15; Tommy does a walkthrough of Shotgun Ace (14 runs, 21 passes).

[th3 last tiger]

Question : If there is a formation that has another formation hidden in it in a preexisting playbook, (ex Oregon's shotgun normal look) and you use that playbook as your base playbook will the formation still be hidden or will it be separated into two separate formations.

[morsdraconis]

If I'm not mistaken, everything that was a hidden formation before is a separate formation in the custom playbook interface.

[Unconquered]

If I'm not mistaken, everything that was a hidden formation before is a separate formation in the custom playbook interface.

Not true. Check out the custom playbooks video -- in Ace Big, for example, there are "hidden" Emory & Henry plays, as well as a Tight TEs formation and a handful of "Canes" plays, where the HB is split out where the TE would normally be.

I'm sure there are hidden formations sprinkled throughout custom playbooks.

EDIT: Actually, I'm only 99% sure about E&H plays in Ace Big, but the others I mentioned are definitely in there.

[Cipher 8]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is a "hidden" play?

[xGRIDIRONxGURUx]

Pistol - Slot... it has both Jet Sweep (including PA) and Motion Option.

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this is good news...

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[JeffHCross]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but what is a "hidden" play?

In reference to Unconquered's post (some people may refer to them in other ways), he's referring to plays that are inside a formation, for example Ace-Big, but do not share the same formation appearance as the formation they're in. Good examples are the Emory & Henry plays inside Ace-Big, the PA play that starts off like Ace-Big Wing that's in either Ace-Big or Ace-Twin TE, or the Maryland I plays that are in Florida's Goalline formation.

[SpreadOption]

The play cap varies by base playbook style correct?

If so can you tell me which one has the highest/lowest etc.?

[gschwendt]

The play cap varies by base playbook style correct?

If so can you tell me which one has the highest/lowest etc.?

Working on a spreadsheet this weekend that will hopefully have all that information (plus some). Unfortunately it's not something that's all readily available, you have to create a playbook with each base playbook in order to see that information.

[Unconquered]

Working on a spreadsheet this weekend that will hopefully have all that information (plus some). Unfortunately it's not something that's all readily available, you have to create a playbook with each base playbook in order to see that information.

Awesome

[SpreadOption]

Working on a spreadsheet this weekend that will hopefully have all that information (plus some). Unfortunately it's not something that's all readily available, you have to create a playbook with each base playbook in order to see that information.

Ah ok. I was under the impression it was standard across the board according to style

[JeffHCross]

Ah ok. I was under the impression it was standard across the board according to style

I believe it's defined by each playbook's default for Goalline. I think the maximum is really 400, but Custom Playbooks subtracts Goalline, Hail Mary, and Special Teams from the maximum, and lets you play with whatever remains.

Most teams have the "base" goalline, so you'll see a lot of consistency, I believe.

[Cipher 8]

In reference to Unconquered's post (some people may refer to them in other ways), he's referring to plays that are inside a formation, for example Ace-Big, but do not share the same formation appearance as the formation they're in. Good examples are the Emory & Henry plays inside Ace-Big, the PA play that starts off like Ace-Big Wing that's in either Ace-Big or Ace-Twin TE, or the Maryland I plays that are in Florida's Goalline formation.

Does this just mean any play with the green presnap motion or...? Because I wasn't aware of any plays that didn't match the little playart picture.

[Cipher 8]

Working on a spreadsheet this weekend that will hopefully have all that information (plus some). Unfortunately it's not something that's all readily available, you have to create a playbook with each base playbook in order to see that information.

Is there any way you could list all the hidden plays? or mark them with an * or something. If not that's cool just a suggestion.