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    Quote Originally Posted by Boucher View Post
    Im worried about CC. In one video it had the Cal OC coming to Navy to run pro style and navy coach to WF. Something tells me these teams are gunna end up doing horribly due to lack of proper personnel
    If teams didn't change styles every now and then, it would be the same thing we've always had. When I was at Southern Miss, we were very run heavy/play defense under coach Jeff Bowers. Now that we have Larry Fedora as the coach, the ball is thrown all over the place with some option thrown in. Navy getting a pro-style attack and WF getting the option is how CC is suppose to work.


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    Teams change their offenses every now and again. I don't see a problem with that. We just have to hope that these changes have been anticipated by the developers and that they are done well. Just because Navy runs the option in real life now doesn't mean they won't switch to a pro style attack in the future, same with Hawaii and Texas Tech, it's not like the NCAA says you have to run this offense or else.

    *stands and waits for the verbal assault about to come*

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    I can't say with absolute authority that there won't be some head-scratching decisions made by some of these virtual ADs (there are some head-scratchers made by real ones, after all), but the team did take multiple factors into consideration when the school decides their next hire. Current play style was one of those.
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    Im just worried about teams that hire coaches that run option offences arent gunna recruit proper personnel. Then we'll have NCAA 11 all over again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boucher View Post
    Im just worried about teams that hire coaches that run option offences arent gunna recruit proper personnel. Then we'll have NCAA 11 all over again
    I do believe it was confirmed that teams would recruit based on style.


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    Sort of a nitpicky thing (but an easy check), have they fixed the bug where the "total tackle" stat wouldn't sort properly (it sorted by solo tackles rather than total tackles)?

    Also, in CC are you limited by which side of the ball you decide to coordinate? IE if you start out as the offensive coordinator at Texas Tech, you're not getting offers to become the defensive coordinator at other schools are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito21 View Post
    1) Sort of a nitpicky thing (but an easy check), have they fixed the bug where the "total tackle" stat wouldn't sort properly (it sorted by solo tackles rather than total tackles)?

    2) Also, in CC are you limited by which side of the ball you decide to coordinate? IE if you start out as the offensive coordinator at Texas Tech, you're not getting offers to become the defensive coordinator at other schools are you?
    1) I believe that's still bugged... we've passed it on though so maybe it will get fixed.

    2) I'm fairly sure that you'll receive offers only for your side of the ball... we made sure to strongly voice our opinion on the subject. Even if you become a HC and decide to drop back to down to coordinator, it will remember what you started as. I'm not sure how it works if you start as a HC though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    2) I'm fairly sure that you'll receive offers only for your side of the ball... we made sure to strongly voice our opinion on the subject. Even if you become a HC and decide to drop back to down to coordinator, it will remember what you started as. I'm not sure how it works if you start as a HC though.
    I haven't tried it in my retail copy yet, but at the May Community Event I started as a Head Coach and at the end of the season I was getting offers for both OC and DC positions (as well as other HC jobs). Once I selected to be OC or DC, however, I would be limited to only those coordinator positions going forward.

    Essentially, it was as though starting at HC left you as a "blank slate"; if you took a coordinator job, then that would change your focus to offense or defense.

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    Would love to see some more about the SPARQ 100 and some offseason progression. All the players seem to have lower ratings coming in so I'm interested in seeing how they progress, especially knowing that coach prestige factors into that somehow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I do not think Quarter Length is factored. I think the goals are derived from the quality of the program (i.e. schools like Tulsa have lesser expectations than Ohio State) and perhaps with an influence from coach prestige. They didn't go in detail, at least with me, about how goals are derived, so that's just my assessment based on the goals I've seen.
    I think the goals are not derived from an individual game's statistics, but instead a "normal" set of season statistics. That's my guess, at least. But I don't believe they change based on quarter length.

    If you are a higher prestige coach, you will probably have a higher prestige job. I believe that's the basic determining factor.

    Example:
    Ohio State Offensive Coordinator: One goal to reach 5800+ in each season. Two goals for 4200+ in one season and each season, but those two goals carry very little credit (few >>>) and a lot of penalty if not reached (many <<<).
    Tulsa Offensive Coordinator: One goal to reach 3400+ in one season, one goal to reach 3000+ in each season, and one lesser goal to reach 2800+ in one season.
    Okay I'm just worried that for example say someone is playing 5 Minute QTRs with Ohio State and they have to get that 4200+ yards goal, Now say someone else prefers to play 10 or even 15 minute quarters now that goal is going to be a lot easier, almost a gimme, due to the sheer amount of plays you can run in a 10 or 15 minute time frame compared to 5 minutes. I don't think it will be a problem for most because a lot use the default 5 minutes or just a few extra minutes. I prefer 8 or atleast 6 or 7 minute QTRs. I hope it's still fairly challenging to get my goals reached and not too easy.
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Coaching Contract goals don't appear to change with Quarter Length, though it appears ... appears ... that the amount of credit/penalty may have changed when I modified the quarter length before beginning my dynasty.
    Interesting, that could be a good way to do it. Like in 5 Minute QTR's getting the 4200+ yards of offense would be a <<|>>> but in 10 minute QTR's the same goal would be <<<|>> or something similar. 30 Passing TD's in a season on 5 Min. QTR's would be a <<|>> but in 10 Min. QTR's it would be a <<<<|>>, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    It's similar to the stats from the last two seasons in real life. There were about 15 guys each of the last two years that had double-digits in solo sacks.

    I didn't play practically any of the demo, but in my experience, on All-American default, getting sacks is not "easy" in the retail version.
    Thank you for commenting on this.


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    When a prospect commits to your school do they still stay on your recruiting board and take up one of the 35 spots?

    I hated that in all the previous games and I hope they changed it but I can live with it if they didn't. I just think you should be able to add a new prospect to the board and try to recruit them or just have them as a fallback option in case any prospects commit elsewhere. I understand they want you to be able to see who you have already committed but then just make it so the commits don't take up a spot of the 35 but still show up on the list at the bottom. That has to be possible. There should be no worries about recruiting too many when you have a set limit of scholarships and a set roster size...
    You already have 35 spots with a set limit of 25. I can understand wondering why they remain, but I also see limited value in having more "backup" spots, potentially. I would hazard to guess that the majority of the "hardcore" players don't even use a full 35 board anyway. I guess that's a long winded way of asking why you want to see it changed. What value do you get out of having, for example, 20 committed players and having more than 15 players on your board for 5 spots?
    I didn't mean "backup" spots as in on the team backups but as in "backup plan" incase the main prospect your recruiting at a certain position ends up going somewhere else at the last minute then you could have a fallback option.

    Why do I want it changed? Alright this is going to be hard to explain but I'll try my best.

    Say your team needs DE's & DT's bad but you also need other positions so you recruit the whole lot but all the interested d-lineman either insta hard commit elsewhere early on in the process or your not on the top 3 of their list after a couple weeks of recruiting. However, you did manage to have a QB, HB, WR, and two O-lineman hard commit to you already. Instead of these players 5 recruiting board spots being opened back up so you can add 5 more D-lineman to your list they still count against your 35/35. It should go down to 30/35 and allow you to add five more if you wish. Now say all the D-lineman that your recruiting end up being a lost cause and none sign with you by seasons end, if those spots had opened up when those other players committed you could have added more D-lineman and started recruiting them (or at the very least let them sit on your list because there interest in your school still goes up even if you don't call them as long as they are on your list I heard.)

    I'm not saying take the committed recruits off the recruiting board list. They can still show up on the bottom like normal. I understand everybody wants to be able to easily scroll down and see what positions and players they have already got committed to them but why do they have to still take up a spot on the recruiting board? There is no set limit to how many recruits any college can bring in in a year is there?

    35/35 is a good amount for the game though. I understand 25 scholarships is all you can offer and there is only so many roster spots available before you start the season you have to make cuts those systems are already in place and are designed to do that job, so why count hard committed recruits against your 35 also? So what if you can't have a recruiting class of 35 players every year. I understand all that but I don't sign every recruit I go after and it would just be nice to have backup/fallback plans to be added to the board after someone committed to you. Why should their spot still count against your ongoing recruiting?
    Last edited by Cipher 8; 07-02-2011 at 08:33 PM.

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    So the Offensive Coordinator is responsible for the Offensive scheme and the DC is responsible for defense, but as a head coach can you over rule this?

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    Does being an OC/DC affect recruiting at all? If you're the OC for a team, do you only recruit the offensive recruits? Or all the recruits? Or none of the recruits? How is that handled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito21 View Post
    Does being an OC/DC affect recruiting at all? If you're the OC for a team, do you only recruit the offensive recruits? Or all the recruits? Or none of the recruits? How is that handled?
    As a coordinator, you recruit both sides of the ball. Consider yourself also the recruiting coordinator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umhester04 View Post
    So the Offensive Coordinator is responsible for the Offensive scheme and the DC is responsible for defense, but as a head coach can you over rule this?
    As the HC, you're both the OC and the DC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by umhester04 View Post
    So the Offensive Coordinator is responsible for the Offensive scheme and the DC is responsible for defense, but as a head coach can you over rule this?
    Quote Originally Posted by souljahbill View Post
    As the HC, you're both the OC and the DC.
    Or, to think of it another way ... as the Head Coach, you have the same amount of responsibility that you've had in NCAA '11, '10, '09, etc. There isn't any over-ruling or chain-of-command. You just call the plays for both sides.
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    Idk if I should ask this here or in the Gameplay Q&A thread but can someone explain to me Coach Mode or better yet can one of the Community Event Attendees who received the retail copies go through and make a video about it, explaining it and showcasing it? It seems to me very little is known about this new feature and it would be a good idea to make a video on it I think for The Gaming Tailgate.

    Show the setup, can you do a dynasty this way or just play now?, show the actual gameplay in this mode like the audibles and presnap adjustments, playcalling, etc but then show the plays simmed through with full broadcast in this view.

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    Coach mode video is here
    http://www.youtube.com/user/thegamin.../9/zJC9o8gjbQo

    It's very simple really, you are the coach, you can do everything you normally would be able to do except control the players after the snap.

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    Any chance we could see what the Conference Prestige ratings are? I've heard that it's static as before, and I'd like to know how the conferences are ranked so I can organize my pro-rel setup accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Or, to think of it another way ... as the Head Coach, you have the same amount of responsibility that you've had in NCAA '11, '10, '09, etc. There isn't any over-ruling or chain-of-command. You just call the plays for both sides.
    I guess what I was asking is what is it for CPU teams. Does the Head Coach have control over the scheme type (Spread, Pro, etc) or do the coordinators?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paakaa10 View Post
    I haven't tried it in my retail copy yet, but at the May Community Event I started as a Head Coach and at the end of the season I was getting offers for both OC and DC positions (as well as other HC jobs). Once I selected to be OC or DC, however, I would be limited to only those coordinator positions going forward.

    Essentially, it was as though starting at HC left you as a "blank slate"; if you took a coordinator job, then that would change your focus to offense or defense.
    Can you tell me if im able to controll more than one school(i always play with 12, offline)? I was browsing through all dynasty related videos and it looks like in CC theres only one team i'd be able to coach

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