Jim Tressel Has Resigned

[ram29jackson]

{rolling eyes}

'everyone is doing it' is played out and a cop out by the guilty. Plenty of athletes at major schools refute that.

Remember there is a distinction between complicit programs that foster the atmosphere and cheat versus the rogue player who breaks rules on his own. There is much more of the latter than the former.

plenty of athletes at major schools refute it ? yeah, thats called lying to cover your ass. or they just werent the kind of recruit the school felt the need to kiss up to to get.

the cheating programs are always in the top 40. they may be the minority but they will always be the schools with more wins.

if everyone doesnt do it then why are so many winning schools getting busted in the news ? Again, 5 schools with big busts in the last 3 years means that 25 to 50 schools are doing the same thing. It is the major college culture to cheat in order to win.
no one cares about the 60 or 70 schools who do things right because they are the losing teams who get the lesser recruits.

the only schools that get a pass are Army, Navy Air Force and BYU...and even BYU cheats because they red shirt and then send their guys on missions so they come back older and a little bigger so they can remotely compete in major college ball haha

we arent talking about a 12 year old kid who got busted and makes an excuse that everyone does it to save face.
This was a highly recruited player who, no doubt was wanted by everyone in the ACC and SEC aside from many other schools.
I doubt the ones that were really pushing to get him only promised basic, legal, fair things.

If a Ohio State is doing it who is always in the top 10 and a North carolina is doing it who hardly ever makes top 10. That means everyone in between is doing it as well.

[DariusLock]

the only schools that get a pass are Army, Navy Air Force and BYU...and even BYU cheats because they red shirt and then send their guys on missions so they come back older and a little bigger so they can remotely compete in major college ball haha

In their defense, most Mormons end up going on Missions right after High School or early into their College life.

[ram29jackson]

In their defense, most Mormons end up going on Missions right after High School or early into their College life.

that doesnt lessen the fact that the football team tries to use that as a small advantage in weight and maturity of players. If they didnt do that, they would always be in the bottom 30 and never in the middle 50 of rankings.

[AustinWolv]

Your mind is made up based on subjective opinion and bias. No use discussing further.

[SmoothPancakes]

Your mind is made up based on subjective opinion and bias. No use discussing further.

I have to agree with AustinWolv. Right now, everything you are saying is based squarely on your opinion and your idea of percentages of stuff, even if you claim it is fact. To me, it is nothing but pure opinion, speculation, and, as Austin said, bias, unless you produce actual, hard facts from various sources.

[ram29jackson]

I have to agree with AustinWolv. Right now, everything you are saying is based squarely on your opinion and your idea of percentages of stuff, even if you claim it is fact. To me, it is nothing but pure opinion, speculation, and, as Austin said, bias, unless you produce actual, hard facts from various sources.

when 5 schools are caught doing something in a 3 year span, it means more than just those schools are doing the same thing.
Thats all it can mean.they cant just be isolated incidents.

[JeffHCross]

when 5 schools are caught doing something in a 3 year span, it means more than just those schools are doing the same thing.

Are other schools doing it? Sure. Is everybody doing 'something'? Probably. 'Something' is a rather wide range. In my opinion, it's disingenuous to even lump the schools that have gotten into trouble together. Auburn's situation is not Ohio State's is not USC's is not Tennessee's is not North Carolina's.

And that sure as hell doesn't mean everybody's doing it.

And BYU doesn't cheat by having players that go on Missions. Period.

[ram29jackson]

Are other schools doing it? Sure. Is everybody doing 'something'? Probably. 'Something' is a rather wide range. In my opinion, it's disingenuous to even lump the schools that have gotten into trouble together. Auburn's situation is not Ohio State's is not USC's is not Tennessee's is not North Carolina's.

And that sure as hell doesn't mean everybody's doing it.

And BYU doesn't cheat by having players that go on Missions. Period.

when I say everybody, I of course mean major programs who are in the top 20 to 40.
its disingenuous to lump them together ? a violation is a violation.
Of course i'm making a joke with BYU but it stands to reason that no other school uses such an idea to their advantage and its true that if BYU didnt do that they would be ranked next to all the sun belt schools year after year haha.

college ball is about getting superior meat on the field and getting wins.
do you think Randy Moss or Jamarcus Russell ever went to a class? I doubt it, but those schools did everything possible to get those physical freaks back on a field. That story happens every year over and over along with little white envelopes of money.
the schools that get busted are the ones who let it get out of control, which of course always happens eventually due to greed etc.

[CLW]

Apparently THE Ohio State University wants to get rid of any other evidence of wrong doing by "scrub everything". NCAA better get in there quick before all of the evidence winds up in the shredder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6631784

[JeffHCross]

before all of the evidence winds up in the shredder.

I agree with the sentiment of tearing down the whole department and starting from scratch ... but good grief, word choice.

[psusnoop]

And more about OSU

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...s.html?sid=101

[gschwendt]

http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes/sta...15497098862592

BREAKING NEWS: Terrelle Pryor has decided to end his football career at Ohio State, per his lawyer

[CLW]

http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes/sta...15497098862592

Yep called this one. I now think he NEVER plays a down of remotely competitive football again. I.e. he NEVER plays a down in the NFL

[AustinWolv]

http://twitter.com/#!/PDBuckeyes/sta...15497098862592

His high-powered lawyer that is a bigshot in OH, is highly likely working the case for free, and so happens to be highly associated with O$U..........how convenient that Pryor isn't obligated to talk to the NCAA now that he isn't a college athlete.

[ram29jackson]

His high-powered lawyer that is a bigshot in OH, is highly likely working the case for free, and so happens to be highly associated with O$U..........how convenient that Pryor isn't obligated to talk to the NCAA now that he isn't a college athlete.

CFL - say hello to your next big draw !!!!

[CLW]

Pryor made $40K signing garbage and selling it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

THE Ohio State should just lay a ban hammer on themselves right now and PRAY the NCAA doesn't give them THE Death Penalty. This story is NOT going away and it is ONLY going to keep getting worse the more the media and NCAA digs into this.

THUGS runnin' wild with Sweater Vest at the helm.

[JBHuskers]

Yeah the NFL CBA needs to have a supplemental draft for him to play this year. He basically has to TEAR it up at the UFL or CFL levels.

For once, someone high profile has to REALLY work for a payday.

[JeffHCross]

Pryor made $40K signing garbage and selling it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

Yep, we're done.

PRAY the NCAA doesn't give them THE Death Penalty.

Never gonna get the Death Penalty though. Go watch 30 for 30 ... the two situations really don't compare.

[souljahbill]

Pryor made $40K signing garbage and selling it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

THE Ohio State should just lay a ban hammer on themselves right now and PRAY the NCAA doesn't give them THE Death Penalty. This story is NOT going away and it is ONLY going to keep getting worse the more the media and NCAA digs into this.

THUGS runnin' wild with Sweater Vest at the helm.

40k?

It took me 5 years, post grad school, to pull in a 40k year.


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[ram29jackson]

40k?

It took me 5 years, post grad school, to pull in a 40k year.


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Pryor made $40K signing garbage and selling it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

THE Ohio State should just lay a ban hammer on themselves right now and PRAY the NCAA doesn't give them THE Death Penalty. This story is NOT going away and it is ONLY going to keep getting worse the more the media and NCAA digs into this.

THUGS runnin' wild with Sweater Vest at the helm.