NCAA Football 12: Custom Playbooks

[Solidice]

How many locked formations are there? Special Teams, Hail Mary goaline formations are required. The word is there are 10 to 13 locked formation per playbook. can someone verify.

there are 12 Special teams and Hail Mary formations. Goal Line can be 1-3 I think, depending on the team(Hidden formations). That is, if the formations are the same for SP and Hail Mary as they are in NCAA 11.

[morsdraconis]

How many locked formations are there? Special Teams, Hail Mary goaline formations are required. The word is there are 10 to 13 locked formation per playbook. can someone verify.

10 - 13 locked formations?! Where did that come from?

The only locked formations are Special Teams, Hail Mary, and Goalline for the offensive playbooks. Beyond that, you can do whatever you want.

So, for each playbook, there are 3 locked formations (Special Teams, Hail Mary, and Goalline), so, based on the above, you have 37 formation spots you can fill in.

[Kwizzy]

How many locked formations are there? Special Teams, Hail Mary goaline formations are required. The word is there are 10 to 13 locked formation per playbook. can someone verify.

No there are no locked formations (other than goalline, ST, & Hail Mary) at all. As I said in my previous post the only thing that prevents you from removing a formation or play is if it's in your audibles or when you hit the minimum number required in the PB. Those formations that stay once you hit the minimum required aren't locked, you simply must add other formations and plays in order to remove them.

[smace767]

What solidice was saying was that the different special teams and Hail mary alignments were counted as separate formations and locked. Thats why i wanted to verify this.

[Solidice]

10 - 13 locked formations?! Where did that come from?

The only locked formations are Special Teams, Hail Mary, and Goalline for the offensive playbooks. Beyond that, you can do whatever you want.

So, for each playbook, there are 3 locked formations (Special Teams, Hail Mary, and Goalline), so, based on the above, you have 37 formation spots you can fill in.

No there are no locked formations (other than goalline, ST, & Hail Mary) at all. As I said in my previous post the only thing that prevents you from removing a formation or play is if it's in your audibles or when you hit the minimum number required in the PB. Those formations that stay once you hit the minimum required aren't locked, you simply must add other formations and plays in order to remove them.

but are the "Hidden" formations counted as well?

for example. in Tulsa's playbook these are the SP teams, Hail Mary, and Goal Line Formations:

Goal Line
Hail Mary - 4WR
Hail Mary - 4WR Trey
Hail Mary - Spread
Hail Mary - Wing Trio Wk
Kickoff - NCAA
Kickoff - Normal
SP Teams - Fakepuntdirectsnap
SP Teams - Punt
SP Teams - Punt Max Protect
SP Teams - Tight Max Protect
SP Teams - Tight Max Prot Fake
Safety Punt - Normal

in total, Tulsa had 33 Formations in their playbook, if you count hidden ones.

I don't think it'll make much of a difference anyway. 370-377 plays for 25-27 formations is plenty enough for me.

[smace767]

aren't all those special teams alignments in the special teams formation along with fg, qb kneel ect..
same with the hail mary aren't they all in the hail mary formation folder.

[WolverineJay]

but are the "Hidden" formations counted as well?

for example. in Tulsa's playbook these are the SP, Hail Mary, and Goal Line Formations:

Goal Line
Hail Mary - 4WR
Hail Mary - 4WR Trey
Hail Mary - Spread
Hail Mary - Wing Trio Wk
Kickoff - NCAA
Kickoff - Normal
SP Teams - Fakepuntdirectsnap
SP Teams - Punt
SP Teams - Punt Max Protect
SP Teams - Tight Max Protect
SP Teams - Tight Max Prot Fake
Safety Punt - Normal

in total, Tulsa had 33 Formations in their playbook, if you count hidden ones.

I don't think it'll make much of a difference anyway. 370-377 plays for 25-27 formations is plenty enough for me.

Interesting. So what you're saying is that we wont have 37 formations we can add outside of goalline, special teams, and hail mary? I do agree with you that 25 or so formations to add to my offensive playbook is plenty (averages to nealy 15 plays per formation).

[smace767]

I will have 7 base playbooks to work with and have two more open i can use if i want to use in ods with teams specific adjustments. i will make 6 general play cpu type styles as well. using the same concepts i use for my own but using more formations and plays that i might not run myself.



playbooks for me:

base playbook-will include all the plays i like and fit in my core concept of offense for equal matchups and 5* plus type teams


lower level base-a little more conservative playbook used against better teams while i still have decent level playmakers.


conservative- playbook where i have few true play makers and no threat at qb, not many shotgun or wide runs not many pulling lineman. zone block quick hitters and dig routes.

finesse- used if i have a few decent skill players, wildcat, empty, screens, draws.


power-if i have a good oline and hbs in comparison to the defense, power, wishbone, overloads, power i, multiple heavy te formations


machine gun-if i have a wr corp that needs to get the ball, 5 wide, 4 wide bunch heavy houston texas tech hybrid offense.


dual threat- QB is the playmaker lots of speed option spread option, shotgun passing. think FSU charlie ward type offense

Florida will be the base in most cases so i can use their goaline package. this alone will allow me to run some wishbone and power i without having to include those formations.

now none of these will be as restrictive as the description but 250 to 300 of the plays will fall in that descriptive category. the remaining 100 plays are to break tendencies and diversify somewhat in case injury or weather cause a style change.

[blkkrptnt819]

Okay just confirmed with my notes that the defensive limits for formations and plays is the same as it is on offense.

(and I see Tommy basically said the same )

Sorry Kwizzy, it was JB Husker

[Kwizzy]

Sorry Kwizzy, it was JB Husker

Oh no worries man, you just had me doubting myself!

[Kwizzy]

Interesting. So what you're saying is that we wont have 37 formations we can add outside of goalline, special teams, and hail mary? I do agree with you that 25 or so formations to add to my offensive playbook is plenty (averages to nealy 15 plays per formation).

Going to try to get clarification on this point. Will post what I find out asap.

[gschwendt]

Yeah... my misunderstanding may be incorrect but I'm fairly certain that the Special Teams, Hail Mary, and Goalline Normal do not count towards your formation count. However, if you for example were to use the Florida playbook that has 2 extra Goalline formations included with it (Strong I & Wishbone Tight), then you would have 38 formations available instead of 40. Again though, I might be mistaken and hopefully we'll get clarification on that for you soon.

[CLW]

Question: When we are picking formations for our custom playbook and then we select a formation (I-Form Normal as an example from Team X's playbook) will there be an "easy" way to see each and every play in the game for the formation (I-Form Normal) or will we have to search/know which playbooks have that formation and then go through each school's playbook individually to find all of the plays we want to add?

[gschwendt]

Question: When we are picking formations for our custom playbook and then we select a formation (I-Form Normal as an example from Team X's playbook) will there be an "easy" way to see each and every play in the game for the formation (I-Form Normal) or will we have to search/know which playbooks have that formation and then go through each school's playbook individually to find all of the plays we want to add?

It will list every available I-Form Normal play and you pick & choose which ones you want to include. You won't have to know which schools have your play or anything like that... besides picking your base playbook, the other playbooks really don't come into play.

[CLW]

It will list every available I-Form Normal play and you pick & choose which ones you want to include. You won't have to know which schools have your play or anything like that... besides picking your base playbook, the other playbooks really don't come into play.

Wow this thing really sounds well thought out and fairly straight forward and easy to do.

Awaits some sort of fly in the ointment to rain on my parade.

[blkkrptnt819]

Wow this thing really sounds well thought out and fairly straight forward and easy to do.

Awaits some sort of fly in the ointment to rain on my parade.

I don't think it will happen. Just rejoice!

[blkkrptnt819]

Can you guys figure out how many formation exist on defense after the new ones not including Special Teams Goal Line and Quarters? Do those three come with whatever playbook we use like special teams, goal line and possibly hail mary come with whatever offensive playbook we use? I'm pretty geeked about defense in case you can't tell.

[gschwendt]

Can you guys figure out how many formation exist on defense after the new ones not including Special Teams Goal Line and Quarters? Do those three come with whatever playbook we use like special teams, goal line and possibly hail mary come with whatever offensive playbook we use? I'm pretty geeked about defense in case you can't tell.

I think only Goalline and Special Teams come required with the defensive playbooks.

[ram29jackson]

Let me say the obvious first... the footage we saw from the video was from the game. However, it was a bit dated... you can lookup some of the games that come across the bottom ticker to get an idea. As well, they are from two different dates, one from early March and I believe the other from early April.

That said, here are some of the facts, you can create as many as 15 offensive AND 15 defensive playbooks (though that number was just tossed out but the limit should be relatively high). You can have as many as 40 formations in your playbook with 377 total plays... goalline & special teams come with every playbook (can't remove), I think that's where the 377 comes from (ie 400-23 goalline/special teams plays). You start by choosing a base playbook, and then add and remove to your hearts extent from there. Any/all plays are available to pick from... I believe hidden formations (ex. Emory & Henry) come as a separate formation but not 100% on that.

What did I miss?

Kwizzy & I both spent quite a bit of time with this feature so we should be able to answer just about all of your questions.

is the editor fairly easy to navigate and create? or do you have to keep back tracking after each individual selection/ do you see a number count off as you fill your playbook?

can you shuffle them after creating in a certain sequence?

[ram29jackson]

how about setting audibles for each play- is that still in ?