Credit card info was encrypted. User information was not. I'm guessing that's the difference.
Credit card info was encrypted. User information was not. I'm guessing that's the difference.
I am not a lawyer, but wouldn't hacking CC information make this a much larger crime? I understand hacking is more than likely a federal crime to start with, but taking CC information could possibly turn a crime with 2-3 year jail time into much more.(CLW, this is your area)
no, I did read it early on. But I was still cross referencing the serious aspect of buying a ps3 and not knowing this as it was.Originally Posted by JBHuskers
I was wondering if Ram missed the joke too
i never bought anything through ps3 anyway
...but did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
Good point. I guess I just assumed when the hacked story came out it meant that the hackers literally hacked through everything.
I'm not sure if hacking the CC information ALONE would make it a larger crime. Now using that info and buying things with those CC #s (credit card fraud) and/or using that info to to get additional credit off of someone else (identity theft) would CERTAINLY up the criminal penalty.
However, the hackers that stole this info could allready be facing SERIOUS time. I mean how many MILLION people did they still private information from? Criminal/cyber law is not my thing but I gotta think that millions of counts of the theft of that info would lead to a lengthy time in Federal Prison. I think its telling that Anon (or whoever did it) isn't claiming responsibility this time b/c the person(s) responsible know they will become someone's you know what in prison if/when they are caught.
Update:
In an official statement on the debacle, Sony advised caution, stating "If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained."
Sony has since clarified its word of warning by revealing that the credit card data saved on the network was encrypted. By encrypting the data, the credit card information saved within the PSN would have been stored as an unreadable file, only translatable by Sony's transaction system.
While the card data did include an extra layer of security, it's impossible to confirm how much the intruders knew about Sony's payment software. If they were skilled enough to breach the network to begin with, they may also have knowledge of the encryption system. Because of this, Sony is still advising extreme caution and strict monitoring of any financial accounts associated with the PlayStation Network.
To ensure your accounts and identity are secure, take a look at our guide to protecting yourself from PSN data breach.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_techne...dvises-caution
Basically, noone (other than the hacker(s)) know WTF happened (or at least they aren't saying publically). I gotta think that Sony would say the CC #s were obtained if they knew it. #1 PR hit if/when it is later found out they knew but didn't immediately say. #2 HUGE legal ramifications (both civil litigation and possibly criminal penalties/fines from governments) if they lied about this.
Well, I know first hand that they got CC info. My mother in law had her card used and they racked up over $8,000 on it in 1 day. She had used it for my sister in law's PS3.
Wow. I assume this story is just at the tip of the iceberg then. Sony could be in deep [CENSORED] if their CC encryption wasn't up to snuff.
Your mother-in-law should contact the Feds and the Credit reporting agencies and put her accounts on Fraud Alert (or whatever the official title is) so as to not screw up her credit.
Man I cannot for the life of me remember my PSN password and if it is the same as my other "important" passwords. I guess to be safe I should change all of my passwords.
The SAW trap I previously posted in this thread wouldn't be justice for what these [CENSORED] have done. They better have been good/careful b/c if this thing blows up it won't be long until the Feds find them.
The thing that gets me is that she only found out because she tried to use it at the grocery store and it was declined. She called the next day to find out why, and they told her she had exceeded her limit. She got the CC company to get rid of the charges so she should be all good.
Yeah but if they got her CC# there is a good chance they could continue to try to make charges on it or worse get another account using her credit and max it out too w/o her knowledge.
We use a pre-paid card for all PSN purchases to I'm not worried about the card info.
I'm not worth anything so my personal info isn't much of a concern either.
I just warned my mom about it, since she has been the only person to buy something on my PSN.
I don't understand how you can use a card without the 3-digit CSV number on the back of the card.
I've noticed that some websites don't ask for that number. But if you're gonna hack for CC info, I'm sure you're gonna know ways to use it without it.
In my case my PS3 was stolen. I thought Sony locked out the system from going online when I reported it stolen (since I had the serial number from the box)....but no dice, charges kept coming up. But with the Visa Check Card, it was easy to get those charges back, just a pain in the ass to wait two weeks without a debit card.
True, thats weird every website that I purchase from asks me for that unless I already have my card stored.
That sucks. Yeah since the info is stored you don't need anything but to say "add funds" or whatever and it lets you keep purchasing. Wonder why there was no way to lock that down specifially?
According to Sony they could lock my stolen one down from getting online....whoever I talked to didn't follow through with that apparantly.
From thatgamrgrl.com, looks like we get it back Monday or Tuesday.
http://www.thatgamrgrl.com/#!games/vstc1=latest-news
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