
Originally Posted by
Jayrah
There is no point. But again, I dont see this as the problem. The entire defense is NEVER going to jump PA Pass. Certain players are out of position because someone does bite everytime you set PA up the way you describe in 11. This is the goal of PA. Not to find someone wide open, but to catch 1 or 2 players out of position by 1 or 2 steps because they took longer to react. That DOES happen. The problem on PA is the blocking, which doesnt allow your play to develop to a point where you see the space created by the defenders out of position.
I'm sorry, but no it doesn't. The LBs don't bite AT ALL on PA. They're the ones that should be biting (with the occasional bite by the SS/FS if they are playing the low part of the Cover 3 assignment) but they never do. I've seen it happen once, and it was with a player that was 60 something overall. That's the only time I've ever seen it happen and I run a ball control and PA pass offense quite often.
The only time there is space created is because they're playing shitty zone coverage. There is absolutely no space created from the PA pass otherwise. Against man coverage, there's no space created by the PA, only whatever space is created because your players are better than theirs.
I know you really like the game man and that's fine, but to say that there isn't something fundamentally wrong with the defensive play and how they don't read the play in the backfield at all (thus causing them to react to the PA like they're supposed to) is just silly man. Defenses are taught to flow to the ball but also to keep their assignments. A normal 4-3 defense, the strongside LB and MLB would hesitate for a moment before going back to their coverage on the above PA pass play, but they don't (unless you tell them to play the run for some silly reason). They immediately drop back. It's totally opposite of what it should be. The strongside LB and MLB should be reading run first in the 4-3 (with the weakside LB playing contain as they watch for the bootleg) and flowing toward the direction of the ball.
I mean, the whole reason for doing a PA pass is to get the defense flowing in one direction and taking advantage of that by attacking the areas where they've left open. Take the above PA pass for instance:
The whole point of the TE attacking like he is, is to put pressure on the seam created by the LBs reading the run first, allowing the TE to get behind the LBs. This play in the game, the TE will almost never be a viable target unless the defense is playing Cover 3 with the FS playing down in the box (and then, it would be a VERY tight fit). The more likely target would be the A or LB receivers coming across because of how horrible zone coverage is and how those routes are man coverage beaters (to an extent).
I guarantee you that if you take a play similar to this play with a run play off of it into a normal play now game, ran the other play a few times and then came out in the PA pass that's off of that run, you'll be lucky to get anything out of it to the TE down the seam. The LBs just don't react like they should. The only time a LB will actually play the run is if they are in man coverage with the RB/FB you're faking the ball to and then it's simply them just following their man, not reading the QB and the play at all.
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