5 will get you 10 it's FOX... I would expect to hear something announced soon.
5 will get you 10 it's FOX... I would expect to hear something announced soon.
Texas was in a win-win situation.
Like it or not Texas was/is the crown jewell in all of this conference expansion talk. Some people claim Notre Dame is but I just have my doubts. With the current population trends Texas' fanbase/potential revenue is only going to continue to grow.
Texas knew this and used it to their full advantage. They clearly didn't like the current financial situation they had with the Big XII so they held the Big XII and the PAC 10 hostage and used them against each other. In the end they took the better financial deal and will rinse and repeat as necessary every time this stuff comes up every few years.
However, im my mind Nebraska is also a BIG winner. They get out of a conference which Texas clearly dominates and into a conference that is going to generate more revenue for the University with the Big 10 Network.
BIG LOSER Pac 10. They get the Denver market and no big name team(s) to replace the now on probation USC.
- Beebe is confirming that MU, KU, KSU, BU and ISU all gave in and will give the buyout fee monies to UT, OU and A&M.
Buyout fee money referring to what Nebraska and Colorado must pay in 'fines' for leaving early. Amazing.
The rich get richer.
Texas was making the most money in the conference before, so what's the difference now?
Every team can have a TV network if they wont.. of course Texas is the only school where a TV network would work. Texas brings in the most revenue, it's been that way. With the new setup schools are going to get more money. I know Baylor is going to double their revenue from a little over 7 million to 14-17 million a year. If there was no Texas do they think they would get that money?
Other than losing Nebraska, this conference isn't that worse off.
I just heard Texas Tech has yet to sign off on this, but I'm sure they will.
Ok, that's just stupid and absolutely spineless. Even though they can't have the Longhorns Network in the Pac-10, the Big XII (specifically the North) needs Texas a whole heck of a lot more than Texas needs the Big XII. Which means Texas essentially has the entire conference by the balls. They want to make a change no one else likes, threaten the teams with "thinking about leaving for the Pac-10 or elsewhere" and said vote suddenly gets passed.Originally Posted by cdj
And maybe I'm over-analyzing the situation, but I can't help but think and wonder what might happen to recruiting for the schools not named Texas, A&M or Oklahoma. What recruiting pull do the likes of Kansas, Missouri, and Iowa State have anymore? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that the conference champions will basically come down to only Oklahoma and Texas every year (with A&M making a push now and then), so there goes your ability to recruit effectively in terms of winning conference championships.
With the team going to 10 teams, so long Big XII championship game, so so long using that game as a recruiting tool. Unless they have some ungodly season like Kansas did a few years back, so long any chance at a BCS bowl and using visits to BCS bowls as a recruiting tool. "Your family could watch you play throughout the year on the Big XII network." "My family could watch my play every game throughout the year on the Longhorn Network." "We play Texas and Oklahoma every single year." "You get bitchslapped by Texas and Oklahoma every single year."
Maybe I am over-thinking and over-analyzing everything, but I can't help but think the way things are playing out, they are going to drastically affect recruiting for everyone but the Top 2/3, resulting in the talent and performance gap between the Top 2/3 and the rest of the league growing exponentially bigger.
Last edited by SmoothPancakes; 06-15-2010 at 01:36 PM. Reason: fixing spelling
That is exactly it, since CU and Nebraska would beat the Longhorns now and then. It is an even easier path for them now to BCS games, along with OU.
Which is exactly why I think the Big XII needs to just die. It was a fun conference to watch, but it's become nothing but a shell and a sham in this day and age. I have never been a supporter of the 16 team mega-conferences, but choosing between 16 team mega-conferences, and the "new" Big XII conference, I'd prefer the mega-conferences.
As well, everyone can convince themselves that the Big XII is now a fully stable conference again, but I honestly think, if 12 months down the road, as the Big Ten continues exploring further expansion opportunities, they send an invite to Missouri, Missouri will jump at that invite and bail, no matter how high Texas may try to set the exit fees. Either way, regardless of if Missouri eventually gets invited to the Big Ten or something else happens, I have no doubt that 4, 5 years down the road, we'll be going through this all over again in the Big XII.
Wow, that is amazing. It was nice to see the Pac-10 aiming high for once, but as a fan, I can't get too excited about adding Colorado and Utah, especially since it means the loss of the true round-robin in football.
Tech is a pretty stingy school when it comes to money, maybe they won't sign off on giving UT our money from the penalties.
Texas and OU were making more money than the other schools anyway. At least with this, the other schools are going to bring in more money yearly as well.
I was sure this was a joke. It's a joke, right? Please tell me it's a joke.
Just looked it up. It wasn't a joke. Oh my fuck, Texas Ten conference it is.
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Last edited by ebin; 06-16-2010 at 01:20 AM. Reason: added link
The Big 12 can still be a good conference at 10. Texas and OU are powerhouses which automatically gives it credibility. I think Texas A & M is on the way back up to being a really good team and with all the money Pickens poors into OSU I think they could end up being a good program. A few too many crappy teams but it's still better than the Big East.
Orangebloods.com (who broke the initial Texas to the Pac-10 story published an interesting article on the timeline of events from the last couple weeks. Sure sounds like we were thisclose to a significantly reconfigured colloege football landscape.
Rumor has it that the Big XII is going to ask for $15M for Nebraska leaving.
Yep, Nebraska and Colorado have to pay a penalty for leaving the conference.
Also, Looks like Utah may become the 12th member of the PAC-10.
Edit: Penalty rule doesn't exist: http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/nebras...nt-exist-28545
Last edited by HWill; 06-16-2010 at 03:42 PM.
The thing is that they are arguably more top-heavy than the B10 was, which is what a lot of people across the nation were saying was the B10's weakness previously.
And their other weakness (season ending 'early,' no CCG) is also gone now - and depending on schedule, the Big 12 may have that issue as well.
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