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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post


    Damn it G! Making me look crazy...
    I think he should have let you think it for a while longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I think he should have let you think it for a while longer.


    If anything, I thought it was my browser cache acting up (even though I have Firefox set to nothing in the cache to specifically prevent things like that from happening).

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    Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep – Oregon State’s Weak I Normal Fly Sweep has the TE aligned on the line of scrimmage to the split end side of the formation. This creates an unbalanced set to the left with extra blockers for the fly sweep.

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    Play for today is up but I'm at work so I can't get to facebook (except on my phone)... Play is called Weak I Normal Over Fly Sweep. I'm a little confused if the TE is automotioning before the play & then the WR starts in auto motion or what though....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    Play for today is up but I'm at work so I can't get to facebook (except on my phone)... Play is called Weak I Normal Over Fly Sweep. I'm a little confused if the TE is automotioning before the play & then the WR starts in auto motion or what though....?
    Looks like the TE is floating over to the other side of the line after the snap of the ball.

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    I'm curious to see the timing of this play, if the WR doesn't move pre-snap it makes sense to me with that TE crossing over to block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    I'm curious to see the timing of this play, if the WR doesn't move pre-snap it makes sense to me with that TE crossing over to block.
    Yeah exactly, If the WR is in motion before the snap and the TE is pulling after the snap: A) how is he gonna make it over there in time to block someone and B) even if he can make it over there in time, what are the odds all of the other lineman hole their blocks long enough for him to get through there without getting held up.

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    Could it be an indication that they are incorporating multiple player movement before the snap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    Yeah exactly, If the WR is in motion before the snap and the TE is pulling after the snap: A) how is he gonna make it over there in time to block someone and B) even if he can make it over there in time, what are the odds all of the other lineman hole their blocks long enough for him to get through there without getting held up.
    IIRC sweeps don't have the ball carrier in motion pre-snap, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    IIRC sweeps don't have the ball carrier in motion pre-snap, right?
    I thought they did but I could be wrong....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwizzy View Post
    I thought they did but I could be wrong....
    I think in Shotgun they do, in Flexbone they don't. But I think the ball is snapped before the WR gets to the TE....

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    Even if the WR out paces the TE to the other side...the TE could take care of the LB that could charge in from behind to make the stop.

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    I'm guessing from the diagram that the TE is pulling and the FL is automotioned. I'd further guess that the FL doesn't get past the TE pre-snap.

    But that doesn't jive with what the play description says...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    IIRC sweeps don't have the ball carrier in motion pre-snap, right?

    doesn't the green line mean pre-snap motion though?

    hopefully, there is a linked HB dive play from this, similar to the ACE Big version of this play that I think Houston/Oklahoma State's playbook had in NCAA 11(and probably a few others as well)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solidice View Post
    doesn't the green line mean pre-snap motion though?

    hopefully, there is a linked HB dive play from this, similar to the ACE Big version of this play that I think Houston/Oklahoma State's playbook had in NCAA 11(and probably a few others as well)
    On sweeps I can't recall. I think the WR does start but the ball is snapped before he hits the TE on that side....

    There would almost have to be a linked play for that dive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    On sweeps I can't recall. I think the WR does start but the ball is snapped before he hits the TE on that side....

    There would almost have to be a linked play for that dive.
    And hopefully a PA pass or two off of it as well... :Sceptical Optimism:

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    The NCAA series seems to "enjoy" football more than the Madden series.

    Could be perception. NCAA actually discusses the game of football. I like the addition of new plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelerfan View Post
    But that doesn't jive with what the play description says...
    That play description makes no sense, no matter what the actual play does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    That play description makes no sense, no matter what the actual play does.
    I know, lol. I read it a few times to make sure I didn't lose a word somewhere. Nope!

    I'd like to see this play run against the defensive play they gave us yesterday.

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    No no no no no no no no. You guys read and saw it wrong. It makes perfect sense. That line is NOT a motion line by the TE. It's just that they're showing you where a TE would "normally" line up....to where he actually is. There shouldn't be a line there, I agree it is confusing. But I DOUBT HIGHLY that it is motion, just a stupid unnecessary line. OSU never uses motion by the TE in that play. It's just a pre-motion and a quick handoff. I hope they get the timing right, it happens very fast.
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