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    Surprised that Nebraska didn't get any votes in either poll, guess we'll have to win up to and including Missouri to get votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    Surprised that Nebraska didn't get any votes in either poll, guess we'll have to win up to and including Missouri to get votes.
    Meh they aren't Top 25 material as of now. I'd put them around 40. Lunardi has them as the last of the Next 4 out (meaning 8 places out of making the tourny currently).

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    Anyone watch the Nova/Cuse game last night? Both teams looked very beatable, sloppy sloppy play on both side. Other than Pitt the Big East isn't looking too strong down the stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Anyone watch the Nova/Cuse game last night? Both teams looked very beatable, sloppy sloppy play on both side. Other than Pitt the Big East isn't looking too strong down the stretch.
    I watched it and yes that is about standard for these two teams. I like both Pitt and St. John's, with St. John's as a nice sleeper team (while not so much now that they are inside the top 25) to make a good march madness run. Very Sr laden as a team which could be huge down the stretch here.

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    Yeah what pisses me off is that UConn is going to get into the dance because they are ranked in the Top 25 and are 9th in the Big East. and a team like Notre Dame or St. John's is going to get left out.

    Edit - Notre Dame is ranked and will get in.

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    St. Johns should get it.

    Sitting at 17-9 with games against:

    Depaul
    @Vill
    @Seton Hall
    USF

    They should go atleast 3-1 in these games and be in good position to win 2 in the Big East Tourney.

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    The Big East is going to get 10-11 teams this year.

    Pitt
    Notre Dame
    Georgetown
    Louisville
    St. John's
    Syracuse
    Villanova
    West Virginia
    Cincinnati
    Connecticut
    Marquette

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    The Big East is going to get 10-11 teams this year.

    Pitt
    Notre Dame
    Georgetown
    Louisville
    St. John's
    Syracuse
    Villanova
    West Virginia
    Cincinnati
    Connecticut
    Marquette
    No way. I don't think there's any way they put 10 in from one conference. 9 would be pushing it.

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    I don't see Marquette getting in or WVU, but I could see them putting the other 9 teams in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Meh they aren't Top 25 material as of now. I'd put them around 40. Lunardi has them as the last of the Next 4 out (meaning 8 places out of making the tourny currently).
    I still think they should have garnered some votes. They've had votes once or twice earlier this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    I don't see Marquette getting in or WVU, but I could see them putting the other 9 teams in.
    Marquette is the only team on that list that won't make it in unless WVU drops all of their last 4 games and then flubs it up in the tourney.

    Big East is going to shatter the teams in the tournament record with at least 10 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Marquette is the only team on that list that won't make it in unless WVU drops all of their last 4 games and then flubs it up in the tourney.

    Big East is going to shatter the teams in the tournament record with at least 10 teams.
    WVU is really facing a tough finishing stretch.

    @Pitt
    @Rutgers (who is playing tough at home)
    UConn
    Louisville

    If they go 1-3 there that puts there record at 18-12 which I'm not sure is a good thing heading into conference play where they'll face Nova, Cuse, UConn...just not a good matchup for WVU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    No way. I don't think there's any way they put 10 in from one conference. 9 would be pushing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    I don't see Marquette getting in or WVU, but I could see them putting the other 9 teams in.
    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Marquette is the only team on that list that won't make it in unless WVU drops all of their last 4 games and then flubs it up in the tourney.

    Big East is going to shatter the teams in the tournament record with at least 10 teams.
    Quote Originally Posted by psusnoop View Post
    WVU is really facing a tough finishing stretch.

    @Pitt
    @Rutgers (who is playing tough at home)
    UConn
    Louisville

    If they go 1-3 there that puts there record at 18-12 which I'm not sure is a good thing heading into conference play where they'll face Nova, Cuse, UConn...just not a good matchup for WVU.

    Just an FYI -

    ESPN/Lunardi has all 11 of the teams I listed above currently in the field (none in the last 4 in either).

    Seeds

    Pitt - 1
    Georgetown - 3
    Notre Dame - 3
    Louisville - 4
    Villanova - 4
    UConn - 4
    Syracuse - 5
    West Virginia - 6
    St. John's - 6
    Cincinatti - 8
    Marquette - 11


    ONLY one of those teams is even remotely in trouble of not making the tourny - Marquette. Quite frankly even if the Golden Eagles stumble someone on the bubble is going to have to do something impressive to knock them out.

    Also SI has all 11 of those teams making it with very similar seedings - Marquette is again the lowest at a 12 seed.

    I think its pretty safe to say the question is whether the BE gets 10 or Marquette make it 11 teams in the field.

    EDIT: if this were a 64/65 team field I think Marquette is on the outside looking in right now. IMHO unnecessary expansion of the tourny is going to allow a bunch of quite frankly mediocre (at best) college teams get into the tourny.
    Last edited by CLW; 02-22-2011 at 02:39 PM.

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    I would not want to play ND in the tourney. Man are they hot right now. I know they just came off a smack down of Villanova but they have been on a roll for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    I would not want to play ND in the tourney. Man are they hot right now. I know they just came off a smack down of Villanova but they have been on a roll for awhile.
    The Irish are indeed a solid ball club and looking at a #2 or #3 seed. I would certainly rather see BYU than Notre Dame as my #2. However, I'm not sure the Irish would strike any more fear than a #2 seed: Duke or Purdue. I'd say Notre Dame and Texas are a bout a wash right now (Texas sliding Notre Dame climbing)

    If the Irish end up as a #3 seed I don't think there will be any tougher outs as a #3 seed than Notre Dame.

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    I'm sorry but unless Notre Dame gets to play the entire tournament in South Bend, the don't have a prayer of beating a good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I'm sorry but unless Notre Dame gets to play the entire tournament in South Bend, the don't have a prayer of beating a good team.
    Chicago (1st 2 rounds) close enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLW View Post
    Chicago (1st 2 rounds) close enough?
    I'm sure they'll get that, but then, after that, where would they play? Probably no where close to Illinois and thus once they play a good team they'll get plastered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    I'm sure they'll get that, but then, after that, where would they play? Probably no where close to Illinois and thus once they play a good team they'll get plastered.
    Well none of the regional sites are "close" (Newark; San Antonio; Anaheim; New Orleans). Then again none of the major threats to cut down the nets are really that "close" either.

    In Lunardi's bracket assuming no upsets Notre Dame takes on North Carolina in the Sweet 16. I'd say that game is basically a pick em (although I'd be inclined to go with UNC right now). IMHO, a Sweet 16/Elite 8 apperance isn't "crazy" for the Irish.

    VERY few teams play "well" on the road. In the NCAA Tourny Duke's run last year (beating Baylor in TX and Butler in IN) comes to mind as a team "tough" enough to pull out those essentially road games out.

    Other than a Texas in the Final 4 scenario after the 1st Two rounds (where the NCAA is supposed to "protect" high seeds with games "close" to home) it will be neutral court games. If Texas gets a Tulsa; San Antonio; Houston draw they could really be in a drivers seat to cut down the nets.

    The CPU's give Notre Dame 61.2% chance to make the Sweet 16; 19% chance to make the Final 4; 3.4% chance to Win the Championship. Personally, I think those odds are a little high (for deep runs) but pretty close.

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