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    For whatever it is worth. IGN "sources" say the "Family" thing wasn't just PS+ 1hr rentals.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...ly-share-demos

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    According to this, Kinect is no longer required, however, it is also confirms that there will be no price drop as apparently it is still shipping with the console:

    Uh, what? Link

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    Photo of the emails that are from that link:


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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    According to this, Kinect is no longer required, however, it is also confirms that there will be no price drop as apparently it is still shipping with the console:

    Uh, what? Link
    LMFAO so the two most "revolutionary" things XB1 was bringing (DRM and Kinect) are both now no longer required? So what was the point then? What is MS' vision?

    Wow just wow I've never seen anything like this within a 1-2 week span. CRAZY!

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    It's been on 360 for 3 or 4 years now and no one even cares about it anymore. It was a joke they even had it as a requirement and if this turns out to be true, good riddance. Now give me my $400 Xbox One without the Kinect.

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    That's cray cray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    It's been on 360 for 3 or 4 years now and no one even cares about it anymore. It was a joke they even had it as a requirement and if this turns out to be true, good riddance. Now give me my $400 Xbox One without the Kinect.
    I don't think the pricing is gonna change.

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    If only price difference is the reason for the difference in pre-orders, then why did Microsoft change their stance? Surely not to please the internets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    If only price difference is the reason for the difference in pre-orders, then why did Microsoft change their stance? Surely not to please the internets.
    Well at this point (if they have in fact dropped Big Brother Kinect) the only real difference left is PS4 has better memory/specs and price point. Does MS announce DDR5 and a $100 price drop by next Friday? 50/50 prop at this point. Perhaps it will be on SFTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    If only price difference is the reason for the difference in pre-orders, then why did Microsoft change their stance? Surely not to please the internets.
    No idea as it literally makes no sense. They're selling out of all their stock, meaning people really don't care about the 24 hour online check. I could understand the move if their stock wasn't being sold, but that's definitely not a problem. I don't really get the removal of the Kinect, either (even thought I'm glad it's gone if it's true), because if something is selling so well, why remove it?

    I guess it was to improve their appearance. They've kind of become the poster boys for online requirements, so maybe they wanted to remove that? No idea.

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    XBox One Family Share was going to be as awesome as you hoped it would be...
    http://kotaku.com/rumor-about-xbox-o...-fla-534484570


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    A dagger right through my heart. That would MORE than make up for the 24 hour check and pain in the ass used games. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    A dagger right through my heart. That would MORE than make up for the 24 hour check and pain in the ass used games. Oh well.
    It is an interesting feature but again MS UTTERLY FAILED to sell it. They should have had videos, demos, explanations etc... on it publishers probably didn't like the concept but screw them your #1 job is to sell your console. (See PS4)

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    Yeah... had they used that Facebook group graphic that showed that you could essentially share it to 10 friends with few limitations, it would have won a lot of people over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    A dagger right through my heart. That would MORE than make up for the 24 hour check and pain in the ass used games. Oh well.
    Thank the internet and CLW-type fanboys out there.

    j/k CLW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinWolv View Post
    Thank the internet and CLW-type fanboys out there.
    Yep I pretty much SINGLE-HANDILY took down a Fortune 500 company led by a bunch of evil liberal commies. Power to the PEOPLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    Yeah... had they used that Facebook group graphic that showed that you could essentially share it to 10 friends with few limitations, it would have won a lot of people over.
    Yeah but it seems really odd that they just pulled the features instead of trying to explain them. Even after they saw the preorder numbers, they are just preorders. People can back out of them. It just doesn't really make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
    Yeah but it seems really odd that they just pulled the features instead of trying to explain them. Even after they saw the preorder numbers, they are just preorders. People can back out of them. It just doesn't really make sense.
    Well yes/no. Maybe the pre-orders are even WORSE than the 60/40 U.S. split. Plus the U.S. is MS' #1 market if they lose the U.S. they are pretty much guaranteed to get HAMMERED in the EU and Japan.

    You know there is always X% of wiggle room in people changing their mind but once you lose mind share (like PS3 did last gen due to its "too high" price tag and being late compared to 360) it was pretty much game over the entire generation. MS is in the same position here before the console even launches they are trying to change that but I'm not convinced they can pull it off as their PR/message is now COMPLETELY lost/confusing and now everything they announce you have to wonder will they retract it a week later and try something else.

    I wouldn't be shocked at this point to even see a price drop to the same as PS4.

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    Like I said, it makes no sense. They're selling their allotment of consoles, so I don't know why they're drastically changing everything. Obviously, there's something going on that we don't know about yet. Why change everything when your console is selling just fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    Like I said, it makes no sense. They're selling their allotment of consoles, so I don't know why they're drastically changing everything. Obviously, there's something going on that we don't know about yet. Why change everything when your console is selling just fine?
    (1) Maybe its NOT "selling just fine". Maybe they've seen the #s from Amazon/retailers and they aren't good. (2) Maybe the DRM thing didn't work right and was causing a ton of problems i.e. Red Ring of Death like issues

    LMAO could you imagine going through all the bad PR then at launch having to address another RROD especially if its due to the DRM. That would KILL the console and I mean literally kill it like the Dreamcast.

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