Thanks for those man!Originally Posted by Jayrah
I've been meaning to look and see what you guys have been using on All-American and I'm DEFINITELY going to start using those cause I know you guys are right around my skill level so those sliders are going to be great for me.
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I am still really enjoying this game post-patch. Just hope they hurry up and fix that pump fake glitch so I can play randoms again.
I saw a tweet from adembroski where he said deleting his tuning file from his system and redownloading the last one fixed some QB accuracy issues.
Last edited by cdj; 08-18-2010 at 08:02 PM.
I'm going to give that a try tonight Chris. Can't hurt. He said that Ryan told him that the patch/tuner shouldn't have touched the sliders either. I will find out but I still think they inadvertently broke something. If it doesn't work after that I'm going to delete everything to see how the sliders work without the patches and tuning files.
Last edited by Rudy; 08-19-2010 at 05:52 AM.
Well I deleted the tuning file and redownloaded it. I didn't see any difference. All I know is they made kickers have stronger legs and be more accurate, made QBs more accurate, made WRs hands a touch better for less drops and broke the cpu run block and human rush defense slider. A lot of changes went away from sim football. I do like the fact they made the outside running game tougher and loosened up the man coverage a bit but the zone coverage against the cpu absolutely blows now. It was at least useable before with aggressive coverage.
I'm still having fun but only on Heisman. AA is completely ruined for me right now. I will say I still see a ton of super leaping swats on Heisman. That could be toned down some more. I hope EA boost up zone coverage to make it more effective and fixes the sliders. That would really improve the game and let me finetune things better.
Played the Little Brown Jug today in the 2nd year of my dynasty. I had a blood pressure game - the kind that pisses you off like crazy. I was playing at home against Minnesota. They are a B team and I'm a B+ so I'm figuring it won't be too hard. They jump out to a 17-0 lead. I'm fuming. Then I score a TD to make it 17-7. Next possession my NT strips the ball and I recover their fumble with less than 2 minutes to go and inside their 25. I punch in another TD to only trail 17-14 at the half. I get the ball first in the second half and promptly score two more times to lead 28-17. I think I've got it made. Wrong.
With just under two minutes left they score a TD and get the 2 point conversion to cut the lead to 28-25. Then they recover the onside kick. They actually march down to my one yard line where I make a goalline stand to force the tying FG. Off to OT and my defense holds and they miss the FG! I march down and punch one in the end zone to win 34-28. I really struggled running the ball but Odoms and Roundtree are impact WRs so they bailed me out in this game. Great game score over 500 (#9 for me) but that game frustrated the heck out of me. I think Minny did pull off an upset at the Big House a few years ago while Carr was coach. That wasn't fun either.
I've had games like that as well. I think that's what's great about college football and how they translate it to this game. It can really seem like the records are thrown out the door when teams play in rivalry games sometimes and it just makes a game that otherwise would probably be an easy game to win an absolute headache to pull out. It makes you feel that much better about it too when you pull off the win.
Also, I've found AA fun again. Used the sliders that Jayrah linked to over at Traditionfootball.com and they are GREAT. Granted, I'm back to beating CPU teams that are clearly better than me (B+ teams and I'm B), and I don't mind the fact that I've went like 60-0 over the last 5 seasons in my teambuilder dynasty cause that's just what happens when I go to the Big East and I'm clearly a better team than anyone else in the conference. And, during that time, I've had NUMEROUS close call games where I've had to pull it out in the end, so, in the end, I'm happy with my dynasty on AA still.
Last edited by morsdraconis; 08-19-2010 at 09:38 PM.
I haven't played in about three days (NCAA hangover...) but I fired it up today and played a rematch against the Ducks. Last game (play now) I held them to under 50 yards rushing and blew them out 38-7. Well today in dynasty it was a little different.
14
44 *it was an absolute blowout
O QB 24-32 381 YDS (15 RUSHES 97 YARDS)
O FB 11 carries for 76 yards
O RB 5 carries for 55 yards (then he got injured)
** due to the depth chart glitch Oregon had no more RB's (but they had 4 FB's)
I had 14 yards rushing on 13 carries... this game was just embarrasing. Maybe things aren't so bad post patch???
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I think what probably caught me off guard in the Minnesota game is that NCAA 11 is back to being fair and unpredictable on Heisman. AA had become too easy post patch and now I have to fight to win. Apathy had set in on AA and now Heisman forces you to wake up and play smart all game long.
Last edited by Rudy; 08-20-2010 at 05:07 AM.
I think we need to honor the memory of Billy Mays and have NCAA 12 sponsored by Mighty Putty!
I need to get some more sample sets, but I think struggling on Madden has made me a lot better post-patch on NCAA. I'm going to try to find some time to get my Nebraska Tech dyansty going...that will be a truly good meter of seeing things post-patch.
I think JB made a prediction that this game would compare to 2004...I agree 100%. I'm now in my sixth season and I'm still having great games. In season 4 I actually had my first losing season ever (6-7). The next season I went 11-2 but got blown out in the Fiesta bowl by tOSU. This season I'm 4-0 but 2 of those games could have gone either way.
I really can't believe I'm in my 6th season and still not even close to being bored. One thing I've done to help keep me interested is after a good season I assume my o-coordinator gets a head coaching gig and I have to change my O. It's really helped keep the game fresh.
What 'tricks' do you guys use to keep things challenging and fresh?
After season six I quit my job before the season starts (as a result I lose prestige, etc.) and I then take over a school ranked between 100-120 and start the process again. However, this will be the first time since 07 that I will actually play the game after six seasons to do this ritual. Looks like this year I will be taking over New Mexico... that's going to be a long rebuild.... in four and a half seasons they have won only THREE games (3-51).
I think changing playbooks is the easiest and simplest way to keep things fresh.
Later today I'm going to delete the patch and see how I like the game without any patches or tuning updates. AA is broken to me post patch and while Heisman can be fun, the super amount of cpu blitzing, especially on 3rd down where they leave slot WRs open all day is annoying. So is the complete suckiness of zone defenses. At this point I'm calling nothing but man coverages with a few blitzes mixed in on Heisman and that's boring. I like to mix things up but there is zero incentive to do that on Heisman right now. If I like the pre-patch gameplay I will only download the patches/tuning files for offseason work.
I deleted the patch and tuning set and I only got 10 minutes in before I had to turn the PS3 over to the kids since I promised to let them play Toy Story 3. The run block sliders certainly do work better but if I'm perfectly honest, those sliders weren't sensitive enough in the first place. The run blocking and human rush defense sliders were weak to begin with. And then the patch came along and it may have made them weaker or not. I do think they are weaker but the biggest problem is that the cpu run game got hurt bad. It may be due to increased human pursuit or an increased ability for DL to simply break blocks but the cpu run game took a big hit. Combine that with super weak or broken sliders and you can't get the cpu running game going again if you are good at stopping the run (I don't even use run commit). Post patch the slider system and cpu run game resemble NCAA 09 which is not good. I really hope they fix those sliders to make them more responsive. Hopefully I'll be able to get some more time in this morning and experiment on AA and Heisman to see the real differences.
No idea if this is new, legacy, or what-have-you.
I have a CB that came in with 63 CAR, 70 CTH, 54 RTE and 49 SPC. Considering making him into a 2-way player for his FR year and moving him to WR for next year.
When I go to sub him into WR on the depth chart, though, he's really low OVR. In fact, all the CBs are. I scroll over, and their CTH ratings have dropped like a rock. Guys who were 73 CTH are now 48, and my FR is a 46. CAR, RTE and SPC do not seem to be affected.
So not only does he drop to 28 AWR, but his CTH itself goes down.
Note this is on the depth chart. Haven't tried Formation Subs, or Offseason Position Changes, to see if that makes a difference. Seems to be limited to WR though. If I sub him in at HB or QB, CTH (at least, didn't check any others) doesn't change.
Interesting. I could see where this would have been put in as an exploit fix but ... interesting.
EDIT: Oh hell. Stay away from the HB at WR packagaes. QBs and TEs do not appear to be affected ... but HBs and FBs are as well. My HB's 69 CTH drops to 46.
It's a straight 1/3 reduction. I even have a HB that drops from 49 to 32.
EDIT 2: This "bug"/"issue" is not reflected on the Formation Subs screen. A player's "real" values are shown in Formation Subs.
Last edited by JeffHCross; 08-29-2010 at 03:28 AM.
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I'd love it if they could patch in a separate coverage slider for zone coverage. It needs to be broken apart from man coverage because zone coverage against the cpu on Heisman is just bad. Unless you blitz and get pressure you get eaten alive. I know patching in new sliders is hard to impossible but I'd be willing to swap out the nearly useless punt accuracy slider in favour of a zone coverage slider.
Zone Coverage on every difficulty is "just bad".
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Well I should say that I've actually had a lot of fun on Heisman once I settled on some slider changes. I've made one change in over two weeks since I settled on it and have had some good games. I'm 5-1 in my third game and Bama, LSU and Wisconsin all had RBs go over 100 yards against me. I will be a bit sad when the new patch hits tomorrow and I'll be back to playing some Play Now games to see what has changed. I've probably played about 25 Play Now games and over 30 dynasty games so far. But let's hope things get a little better and no problems come up tomorrow. I may go back to AA but Heisman has been fun. It forces you to be on your game all the time.
I freaking missed an XP in my last game against Wisconsin and just about lost because of it. They missed a 48 yarder as time expired for me to hold on to a 26-24 win. I would have been pissed at myself. I already had missed a FG earlier and barely made a 42 yarder with a minute left to take the lead.
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