Well to me (i would never buy One) the BIG issue is does One block used games or not. IF it does Sony should exploit the hell out of that in marketing up to launch. IF NOT it's basically a wash and will depend on personal preference for exclusives (or someone messes up on price point).
Maybe I'm just not understanding what they're trying to get at, but that Kotaku article makes it sounds like what we have now. You can install a game on your hard drive, but you still need the physical disc in the console to play the game. To me, that's all it sounds like for Xbox One. You install the game, but you still need the disc in the console to play it.
Ghost looks really good! Now servers better improve.
The games REQUIRE installation to use and are tied to an Xbox live account. IF true that would mean once you install a file onto a Live account you couldn't sell it to someone else b/c that file would be "locked" to the original Live account.Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes
Watching this Call of Duty Ghosts stuff, I'll give them credit, it at least looks and sounds like you can finally blow shit up in the game. After finally playing Battlefield 3, it was enjoyable being able to completely fuck up the environment around me with tank shells, grenades and bullets. Something Call of Duty never lets you do.
MS is spending allot of time on NON-EXCLUSIVE titles. EA Sports; COD will all be on PS4 as well. Looking forward to seeing what my PS4 games will look like when I get home.
I'm just saying, the way Kotaku explained it, it sounds similar to what there is now, you'd just still need the physical disc in the console to play, just like now. Like they say, or else you'd be able to just install the game and pass it around to everyone you know. Even if it is so it's tied directly to your account, I'm sure there will be a way to remove it from being tied to your account and allow you to sell it to others, who then would have to install it and have it tied to their account.
The way I read it, once you install it, you no longer need the disc. You can give the physical disc to your buddy and he can pay a fee to get the game for himself. Essentially it sounds like a pseudo digital distribution... all games installed to the HDD, though I imagine you can still play them from the disc.
That is what I read as well. Who knows honestly and I doubt MS is going to clarify this issue anytime soon unless/until pinned by the media.
I also presume that the "fee" would be full price for the game. (but I might be reading too much into that)
I'd note that the above is probably why EA got rid of online pass. They are just planning on using MS's fee to recoup funds from used games sales or they know that used game sales on the One are banned.
Well, ultimately for me, it doesn't affect me in the least.
I don't buy games used, only new. If I have to wait for a year for the price to drop for the lesser-quality games, oh well, I'll still buy it new when I do buy it.
And I rarely ever sell my games. Only multiple year old sports games. The rest of my games, RPGs, shooters, action, adventure, etc, I keep all those because I never know when I'll get the itch to play them. Just spent Sunday night playing Red Dead Redemption for three or four hours with a friend because it sounded good, and ended up being a lot of fun. Hell, I still have Assassin's Creed 1 and Call of Duty 4/World at War.
So even if it is ultimately a way to try and kill used games, oh well, it's not going to change the way I play. Definitely looking forward to Xbox One. I might just be tempted to move my purchase date up to 2014 at this rate after today.
I wasn't impressed by either Sony or Microsoft. I guess I'll have to wait until E3 to see which exclusives will be available within the first year on both consoles to make my decision. I'd have to give Sony the upper hand because of the pedigree of their first party studios and already having revealed Killzone and inFAMOUS, but who knows, maybe Microsoft will shock me. He said they have 15 exclusives launching in the first year for One, but I'd be willing to bet over half of those are Kinect games. If that's the case, I wont be touching it.
Yeah it sounds like nothing revolutionary happened today with MS as far as entertainment goes. The specs are largely a wash and so it comes down to: (1) Does One block used games; (2) Price Point; (3) Launch Date; (4) Which Exclusives Do you Like Best.
For me I strongly prefer Sony's lineup of exclusives to anything MS has had in the past so I'll stick with PS4 unless/until MS just comes out with a game that I am willing to give up nearly 20 years of history/comfort with to play that game.
Can it play 360 games? I don't think I have heard or read anything about that part yet.
Bravo EA bravo EA so you really didn't care about the "customer feedback" you knew what was in the pipeline from Microsoft, from a consumer stand point paying the fee (which I agree will probably the price of the game or maybe less 5 or 6 dollars) sucks, from a business standpoint its brilliant.
They are taking the heat from stopping used games which in return will hopefully entice developers to prefer there platform over the PS4 (i.e exclusives), its not a secret game developers hate the used game market but if they can control the used game market themselves it works in everyone's favor. I don't like it but I see the advantages of Microsoft using it.
I heard that it was confirmed by someone (can't remember who) that it's not backwards compatible.
It won't be backwards compatible. http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/...rds-compatible
Perhaps not. I do not doubt the publishers would love to ban used games and eliminate the rental market as well as Gamestop but it could backfire. IF MS blocks all used games and requires you to pay $60 if you buy a used game and PS4 does not. PS4/sony could develop such a LARGE market share % that there is no way any publisher would refuse to publish on PS4.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out (if the rumors are true).
Yes, but the publishers would side with Microsoft because they end up making more money with them. Who's to say it wouldn't get to the point where someone like EA would make their catalog of games exclusive to Microsoft? Indeed, if one of them ends up blocking used games and the other doesn't, it's going to be immensely interesting.
I thought MS had a better reveal show then Sony did IMO. I mean they showed the system a controller and the kinect it looked like. Also they showed the home screen and showed us some features. I know some of you are jump ship already and going Ps4. But me I'll be going xbox one.
Community wise I will have all my friends on there so that is a big part of deciding. They won't be getting it right away but down the road they will. On used games you guys and me will just have keep our 360 's and ps3 to enjoy those games and just deal with it and move on.
I guess you and I disagree on who would blink first. I believe (strongly) EA/publishers would blink and cave to get the X% of sales from the larger market share holder PS4. You believe EA would take its ball and go home and hope people like me would buy One just so I could play NCAA, etc...
If I'm right PS4 clearly wins the console war.
If you are right what is to stop Sony from making a Football; Soccer; etc.... title. I doubt the NFL/FIFA/NCAA would want to go exclusive to one console so Sony could have another 1st party publisher make whatever titles they needed.
Maybe I'm wrong but I'm just not personally brand loyal to EA Sports. I buy their titles b/c they have a monopoly on them. If Sony (or some other publisher) made a NCAA Football game I'd buy whichever game I thought was best. I highly doubt EA could get my MLB baseball gaming money given The Show's quality.
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