The Walking Dead [TV] (May Contain Discussion of Aired Episodes, Enter at Own Risk)

[JBHuskers]

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[psuexv]

Undeniable Proof That "The Walking Dead" And "Toy Story" Have The Exact Same Plot

[AustinWolv]

^^^LOL!

[gschwendt]

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The kid hesitated much too long like he was thinking about a quick draw... Carl did the right thing IMO.

[JBHuskers]

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The kid hesitated much too long like he was thinking about a quick draw... Carl did the right thing IMO.

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I liked the season finale. The things totally didn't go the way I was thinking, so that was great. I didn't think the prison would go down like it did, but they had a great plan for the Woodbury raid, and there were no casualties. The governor totally lost it, so it's going to be very interesting to see how he reacts when he comes back to Woodbury and there is no one there. He'll probably off Martinez and the other dude. I figured Glen or Maggie, along with Carol would die, didn't expect Andrea and Milton to not make it. Should be interesting to see how it plays out next season.

[JBHuskers]

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It was interesting that nobody out of Rick, Tyrese, and Daryl flinched when Andrea pulled the trigger.

[bdoughty]

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The kid hesitated much too long like he was thinking about a quick draw... Carl did the right thing IMO.

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Tough to say, had we not seen Carl act like a spoiled little brat before that scene I would agree to an extent. Unfortunately we did and I think that played a big part of why he shot the kid. Oh of course he has plenty of excuses but what psychopath doesn't. I think what you are seeing is a little Governor being created. Carl gets pissy and does not get his way, he kills someone. Governor gets pissy and he kills all but two, eh make that three, of his crew. It can't be coincidental with these things both happening in the same episode. Even the ending, the Governor drives off from the rest of his people, not returning to Woodbury. Carl resents his dad's decision and storms off. Also Rick picking up the badge shows us some symbolism toward where his son's character may be heading.

The most confusing part of the show is you have a perfectly good town to live in and you bring them back to the prison? WTF was that about?

I do have to nominate Zombie Milton as the Greatest 5 minute or less airtime character for taking a bite out of stupidity and sending Andrea to the place where vapid blondes go after they shoot themselves.

[SmoothPancakes]

Agreed.

My thoughts.

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I liked the season finale. The things totally didn't go the way I was thinking, so that was great. I didn't think the prison would go down like it did, but they had a great plan for the Woodbury raid, and there were no casualties. The governor totally lost it, so it's going to be very interesting to see how he reacts when he comes back to Woodbury and there is no one there. He'll probably off Martinez and the other dude. I figured Glen or Maggie, along with Carol would die, didn't expect Andrea and Milton to not make it. Should be interesting to see how it plays out next season.

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Yeah, that was a damn good finale. I was waiting the entire episode for what was around the next corner. I too didn't see the prison going down the way it did. I honestly expected one of the main characters to die in the prison. After everything down in the Tombs, everyone was running outside and Glen and Maggie stepped out and started firing, I was waiting for one of them to get hit and go down.

I was surprised how easily they got into Woodbury, but then when it become obvious that the Governor didn't bother returning, it was good to see Tyreese continue not trusting the Governor and let the group into Woodbury, and then evacuate the town back to the prison to get away from that place.

I don't know if the Governor will come back to Woodbury, unless just to pillage the rest of the supplies from the town and go someplace else to plot revenge. Even if the people were still there in the town, the Governor killing everyone out there on the road would turn the entire damn town against him. He would be pretty much forced to kill everyone there in town or run them off into the wild on their own.

Definitely can't wait until next season though. The prison and the Governor are both still very much in play. My prediction, the Governor disappears for a while as he tries to round up a new army, one that he can fully control unlike the people of Woodbury in this finale, and he's going to return to the prison for round 2, WITHOUT leaving until either the job is finished or he is killed.

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Tough to say, had we not seen Carl act like a spoiled little brat before that scene I would agree to an extent. Unfortunately we did and I think that played a big part of why he shot the kid. Oh of course he has plenty of excuses but what psychopath doesn't. I think what you are seeing is a little Governor being created. Carl gets pissy and does not get his way, he kills someone. Governor gets pissy and he kills all but two, eh make that three, of his crew. It can't be coincidental with these things both happening in the same episode. Even the ending, the Governor drives off from the rest of his people, not returning to Woodbury. Carl resents his dad's decision and storms off. Also Rick picking up the badge shows us some symbolism toward where his son's character may be heading.

The most confusing part of the show is you have a perfectly good town to live in and you bring them back to the prison? WTF was that about?

I do have to nominate Zombie Milton as the Greatest 5 minute or less airtime character for taking a bite out of stupidity and sending Andrea to the place where vapid blondes go after they shoot themselves.

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Yeah, I got the vibe from that scene that Carl shot him because of a mix of "I didn't get to be in there shooting with the rest of the group" and a take no prisoners mentality, killing anyone who isn't part of their group. I definitely see Carl turning into a mini-me Governor. He is has definitely lost a sense of humanity in him, especially after his reaction to the bus of Woodbury townspeople showing up at the end. He is not the sweet little innocent kid he was in the first two seasons. He is turning down a darker path.

The Governor killing almost everyone out of the Woodbury Army, that shit took me by surprise. I knew he was pissed they had ran away after everything down in the Tombs and then getting shot back at, but damn, I didn't see him just going on a mass murder spree of all of those people. Last night was the turning point for the Governor turning into a 100% psychopathic deranged killer (EVEN MORE than he has already been this season). He has snapped. Like I said in my reply to JB's post, I have no doubt he is going to come back to the prison for revenge in season 4. It's personal now and it's no longer going to be about just killing all of them. Like with Andrea, Milton and Merle (leaving him that way for Daryl to find), he's going to want to cause loads of pain to all of them before allowing them to die. Next season is going to without a doubt take that very dark turn of horror stories in the prison that we've all heard the comics themselves take.

Honestly, I'm not surprised. If I had to choose, I'd rather the prison than Woodbury. Rick and the crew already proved how easy it is to get into Woodbury when they stormed it earlier in the season to rescue Glen and Maggie. It has a lot of area to cover and protect and a lot of places to sneak in. The prison is, to an extent more secure. Yeah, the Governor and army were able to break in just by ramming the gates with trucks, but once they were inside the prison, it becomes much more difficult to get to areas, and you can lock down certain parts much easier with the prison doors. I'll take concrete and steel bars over a town with a bunch of piecemeal roadblocks.

I'll be honest, I was mixed about Andrea. For the last three seasons I have been waiting for the day to come of Andrea's death, but goddamnit, they killed her off in such a way last night that it really made it a bittersweet moment to see her end come. Any other episode I would have been jumping for joy to see Andrea die, but the way they did it last night, it really killed any joy I might have had of seeing her finally killed off the show.

[SmoothPancakes]

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Also, forgot to add, I am happy to see Tyreese and Sasha FINALLY back in the prison. Hated seeing them leave the prison because of Rick's breakdown over Lori, and end up with the Governor. Glad to see that mistake by Rick has finally been corrected and Tyreese and Sasha have returned. It may be with fewer numbers with Allen and Ben killed during their time in Woodbury, but at least Tyreese and Sasha made it back alive.

[JBHuskers]

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Also, forgot to add, I am happy to see Tyreese and Sasha FINALLY back in the prison. Hated seeing them leave the prison because of Rick's breakdown over Lori, and end up with the Governor. Glad to see that mistake by Rick has finally been corrected and Tyreese and Sasha have returned. It may be with fewer numbers with Allen and Ben killed during their time in Woodbury, but at least Tyreese and Sasha made it back alive.

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Yeah probably the latest semi-plot line from the comics that I know about is that Tyrese is a major player as Rick's confidant. I'm guessing Daryl will go back into a tailspin now that he has time to think about the loss of his brother, and Rick will need Tyrese to be his right hand man when Daryl shuts down. And of course The Governor will round up more men. That guy is as cool as the other side of the pillow.He still has Martinez and Bowman (I had to look the dude's name up on IMDB LOL I had no clue). They'll stay loyal to the Governor, even though I'm sure they didn't like how it went down when he gunned down the rest of the Woodbury Army.

[psuexv]

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One thing I didn't see anyone mention and I was confused when I heard it. When Rick is talking to Carl about the kid and Carl is saying all the people that he let go that came back to hurt them, he mentions Andrew? He says something like you let Andrew go and he came back to kill mom. Lori died in childbirth and Carl shot her so I didn't quite get that.

Smooth I completely agree with Andrea. I was ready for her to go and tired of her but I felt sad when she died last night. I think that's why this show is so good.

My predictions going into it was that Milton would die trying to save Andrea which he kind of did. I didn't think Andrea would go though. I also thought Glenn was going to go trying to save Maggie and I really thought one of them was dead when the stood up after they shot all the Woodbury people and said "we did it"

I kind of figured there would be an ambush but definitely thought someone from the prison was going to go down. Didn't see it being the complete success that it was.

Absolutely go back to the prison. As Smooth said easier to defend. Seal up the wall that Tyrese and them came threw and it's pretty darn secure.

I'm not sure if the Governor comes back or not. Hopefully they do something for some closure and don't leave it hanging like Morgan and then bring him back in the terrible way they did him. I don't think the Governor is one to run off with his tail between his legs but in all reality it would take a long long time in this situation to gather and gain the trust of an army to go back and take the prison.

Next season will definitely be interesting to see what happens. They obviously can't be all cushy at the prison with no threats, even though I guess they were that way at the farm.

[JBHuskers]

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One thing I didn't see anyone mention and I was confused when I heard it. When Rick is talking to Carl about the kid and Carl is saying all the people that he let go that came back to hurt them, he mentions Andrew? He says something like you let Andrew go and he came back to kill mom. Lori died in childbirth and Carl shot her so I didn't quite get that.

Smooth I completely agree with Andrea. I was ready for her to go and tired of her but I felt sad when she died last night. I think that's why this show is so good.

My predictions going into it was that Milton would die trying to save Andrea which he kind of did. I didn't think Andrea would go though. I also thought Glenn was going to go trying to save Maggie and I really thought one of them was dead when the stood up after they shot all the Woodbury people and said "we did it"

I kind of figured there would be an ambush but definitely thought someone from the prison was going to go down. Didn't see it being the complete success that it was.

Absolutely go back to the prison. As Smooth said easier to defend. Seal up the wall that Tyrese and them came threw and it's pretty darn secure.

I'm not sure if the Governor comes back or not. Hopefully they do something for some closure and don't leave it hanging like Morgan and then bring him back in the terrible way they did him. I don't think the Governor is one to run off with his tail between his legs but in all reality it would take a long long time in this situation to gather and gain the trust of an army to go back and take the prison.

Next season will definitely be interesting to see what happens. They obviously can't be all cushy at the prison with no threats, even though I guess they were that way at the farm.

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He was talking about Andrew, the prisoner. Remember when Rick locked that bastard away and thought he got eaten by walkers? In 3.04 Andrew came back and screwed up the prison. He opened the gates and lured some walkers inside. Those were the walkers that killed T-Dog, scared Carol away and made Lori leave with Carl and Maggie. And because of all the walkers Andrew let in Lori had to give birth to Judith without Herschel being there to help. I don’t really think that Lori could’ve survived that birth even with Herschel being there, but maybe things could’ve turned out differently without that walker invasion that Andrew forced on them.

[psuexv]

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http://veritaaas.tumblr.com/post/46851031878

He was talking about Andrew, the prisoner. Remember when Rick locked that bastard away and thought he got eaten by walkers? In 3.04 Andrew came back and screwed up the prison. He opened the gates and lured some walkers inside. Those were the walkers that killed T-Dog, scared Carol away and made Lori leave with Carl and Maggie. And because of all the walkers Andrew let in Lori had to give birth to Judith without Herschel being there to help. I don’t really think that Lori could’ve survived that birth even with Herschel being there, but maybe things could’ve turned out differently without that walker invasion that Andrew forced on them.

Ahhhh... gotcha. I guess I was thinking more of someone literally killed her.

[jaymo76]

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Personally I was really hoping that the group would decide to leave the prison and get back on the road. I have always found the best storylines are when they are on the run with no fixed address. With regards to Carl... I really despise his character. I'm just waiting for Rick to smack him across the back of the head. I wonder if in some far away episode if the two will go toe-to-toe for control of the group.

[AustinWolv]

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Personally I was really hoping that the group would decide to leave the prison and get back on the road.

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If they follow the comics, they will. However, they've diverged pretty far from the comic already, so who knows.........but one thing I suspect we'll see that someone mentioned above will be the Governer back for revenge.

[bdoughty]

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...h-sasha-432869

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Rick and Carl going head to head to see who gets to play doctor with Beth.

[AustinWolv]

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Spoilerish for next season

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...h-sasha-432869

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Rick and Carl going head to head to see who gets to play doctor with Beth.

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Nah, Rick will be too busy railing Karen, while Herschel bitch-slaps Carl for hitting on Beth, not to mention Herschel already called out Carl to Rick. LOL

[JBHuskers]

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Yeah I highly doubt there is a love struggle with Rick and Beth. That's just speculation because of that kiss on the cheek. But seriously, she's only "15" or whatever on the show. Doubt AMC would let them go the Lolita route. (She's 27 and from Nebraska...lived two hours away from me )

[JBHuskers]

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But I don't blame Rick....she's angelic

[AustinWolv]

Going to turn this into the "Would Hit it" thread, are you, JB?