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    Yeah... that's a monster of a card. Unless you plan on going PC only for gaming, that's probably overkill. What are your PC specs now? Power supply is probably the only limiting factor, unless you're on Windows XP which could be an issue. Have a link to your full system specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    Yeah... that's a monster of a card. Unless you plan on going PC only for gaming, that's probably overkill. What are your PC specs now? Power supply is probably the only limiting factor, unless you're on Windows XP which could be an issue. Have a link to your full system specs?
    I'm hoping this will give you the information you're asking for...if not I'll do my best to find more out about my specs...

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?EdpNo=557085

    If you scroll down it talks move about it.

    I added this ram to the current machine to give it 16GB of total ram.

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...sp?EdpNo=40739

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    Yeah... that has everything. The 450 Watt Power Supply is quite weak and no way you could run either of the cards you linked efficiently. You'd want to upgrade that to probably at least 750 Watt, then upgrade your video card, even if you went with a GTX 650.


    Your machine itself is quite good... good processor, RAM, etc. That video card (and power supply) is the only thing that would hold you back from playing ANY game at a very high level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    Yeah... that has everything. The 450 Watt Power Supply is quite weak and no way you could run either of the cards you linked efficiently. You'd want to upgrade that to probably at least 750 Watt, then upgrade your video card, even if you went with a GTX 650.


    Your machine itself is quite good... good processor, RAM, etc. That video card (and power supply) is the only thing that would hold you back from playing ANY game at a very high level.
    Ok, so first order of business would be to upgrade the power supply, then video card...off to search more...

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    Ok, I must have gotten the new guy at tiger direct support. My questions for him, where, based on my current system what power supply would you recommend so I can upgrade my video card for under $500.

    He gave me a 3 page list of 27 power supplies.

    I told him they are all different types of connectors, 4-pin, 6-pin, etc...I asked him if they would work on my machine...his answer was to pick one, then call the manufacture of each to see....

    So I guess what I need to find out is, what is the best graphics card I can put on my current machine with SATA interface and a 450W power supply. Then based on cost, what is the upgrade I can put on my machine power supply and video card (preferably NVIDIA) for less than $500.

    If I upgrade from 450W to 500W it looks like I can run a better card, but I don't want to waste my money if I'm splitting hairs...what I mean is I don't want to upgrade if it's only going to be a marginal difference. If I'm going to upgrade I want to SEE a difference...hopefully that makes sense.

    Any helps/tips would be greatly appreciated.

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    Does anyone have any reviews for Tropico 4? It seems like an interesting PC game.

    Thanks.

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    Jaymo plays the hell out of it if I remember correctly. If he sees this, he'll sing it's praises I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Jaymo plays the hell out of it if I remember correctly. If he sees this, he'll sing it's praises I'm sure.
    I'll have to see how good it is. I bought it on Steam, they dropped the collectors complete bundle from $80 to $39.99. I guess to compete with the new Sim City. The nice thing is you get the complete game plus all the addons for $40. It took about 2 hours to download it so I haven't had a chance to play it yet.

    http://store.steampowered.com/sub/19282/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    It's fun, but really damn silly, as one would expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    It's fun, but really damn silly, as one would expect.
    Can't wait to try it when I get home

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Jaymo plays the hell out of it if I remember correctly. If he sees this, he'll sing it's praises I'm sure.
    Completed the tutorial tonight, it's pretty fun. It's like SimCity with politics and an economy. The first funny thing I noticed is you can "eliminate" your citizens....I guess being a dictator has it's own set of powers/rules. The in-game music is VERY good too.

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    So frustrating...

    A couple of weeks ago my main PC died on me and immediately afterwards I smelled a burning smell (like burning wires). I tried to see if there was anything particular that smelled burnt but couldn't find it. I waited overnight and in the morning, powered it back up and it went fine. I left it running for the rest of the day without issue but the next day, it crashed again with that same burning smell. Best I could tell it was the power supply but couldn't be sure.

    I ordered a nice new power supply and installed it this past week but got nothing... no fan, no lights, nothing, only a half-hearted click that sounds like it's coming from the power supply after I press the power button. So without much time this past week, I had to set it aside and wait to look at it this weekend.

    Finally tonight I'm able to break it down and see if I could find it but low & behold, after checking every connection, I still get nothing. I don't know if it's two bad power supplies, a fried CPU/motherboard or possibly even a fried video card. I'm going to take it into a PC shop tomorrow... first time I've ever had to do something like that since typically I can find the problem myself. I'm hoping they can just tell me it's a bad power supply and I can RMA it back to newegg to get a new one.

    If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears but at this point I'm just ready to get it fixed, hopefully without too much cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Jaymo plays the hell out of it if I remember correctly. If he sees this, he'll sing it's praises I'm sure.
    Just saw this thread. The answer is yes, I really enjoy Tropico 4. I also highly encourage anyone to get Modern Times to go with it as dlc. Most of the expansions are rip -offs but Modern Times is a whole new game. The challenges get harder and harder. On my first system my graphics were weak and the game looked pretty bad. On my new kick butt system I run the game on high/ultra and it looks spectacular. Plus I love the soundtrack. It's not as deep as sim city but five hours will pass like five minutes... I highly recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    So frustrating...

    A couple of weeks ago my main PC died on me and immediately afterwards I smelled a burning smell (like burning wires). I tried to see if there was anything particular that smelled burnt but couldn't find it. I waited overnight and in the morning, powered it back up and it went fine. I left it running for the rest of the day without issue but the next day, it crashed again with that same burning smell. Best I could tell it was the power supply but couldn't be sure.

    I ordered a nice new power supply and installed it this past week but got nothing... no fan, no lights, nothing, only a half-hearted click that sounds like it's coming from the power supply after I press the power button. So without much time this past week, I had to set it aside and wait to look at it this weekend.

    Finally tonight I'm able to break it down and see if I could find it but low & behold, after checking every connection, I still get nothing. I don't know if it's two bad power supplies, a fried CPU/motherboard or possibly even a fried video card. I'm going to take it into a PC shop tomorrow... first time I've ever had to do something like that since typically I can find the problem myself. I'm hoping they can just tell me it's a bad power supply and I can RMA it back to newegg to get a new one.

    If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears but at this point I'm just ready to get it fixed, hopefully without too much cost.
    I don't know enough about cpus to help but on an old system mine had an overheating issue and in the end it warped my cd/dvd drives and damaged the motherboard. It was going to cost close to the same amount as a new cpu cost so I yanked out the hard drive, saved up my pennies and bought a new top of the line system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    So frustrating...

    A couple of weeks ago my main PC died on me and immediately afterwards I smelled a burning smell (like burning wires). I tried to see if there was anything particular that smelled burnt but couldn't find it. I waited overnight and in the morning, powered it back up and it went fine. I left it running for the rest of the day without issue but the next day, it crashed again with that same burning smell. Best I could tell it was the power supply but couldn't be sure.

    I ordered a nice new power supply and installed it this past week but got nothing... no fan, no lights, nothing, only a half-hearted click that sounds like it's coming from the power supply after I press the power button. So without much time this past week, I had to set it aside and wait to look at it this weekend.

    Finally tonight I'm able to break it down and see if I could find it but low & behold, after checking every connection, I still get nothing. I don't know if it's two bad power supplies, a fried CPU/motherboard or possibly even a fried video card. I'm going to take it into a PC shop tomorrow... first time I've ever had to do something like that since typically I can find the problem myself. I'm hoping they can just tell me it's a bad power supply and I can RMA it back to newegg to get a new one.

    If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears but at this point I'm just ready to get it fixed, hopefully without too much cost.
    Burning wire smell is tough to diagnose though because it could be a connection on the motherboard causing the issue or it could be one of the wires coming from the motherboard to somewhere else causing the issue.

    First thing I'd do is take it all apart and see if you can locate the main source of the burning wire smell. Look at the motherboard - any burn spots on it? Smell the inside of the old power supply. If it doesn't have a STRONG burning wire smell, it's highly unlikely it was the original issue.

    While it could be a bad power supply followed by a DOA power supply, I actually find it unlikely to be the case. Maybe check the outlet itself. See if it has burn marks on it. Try plugging it into a different outlet. Hell, make sure it didn't burn up your powerstrip. There are plenty of things that could be causing the burning wire smell so I'd be thorough before I'd just take it to a PC Repair Shop (if they're anything like ones that I've been to before, they know less about PCs than I do).

    Above all else, I can tell you it's definitely not the video card, RAM, or fried CPU. All three wouldn't prevent the powersupply from coming on. The video card would just prevent any visuals and RAM and CPU would cause the onboard speaker to make some interesting noises but otherwise allow the powersupply to come on.
    Last edited by morsdraconis; 03-24-2013 at 09:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Just saw this thread. The answer is yes, I really enjoy Tropico 4. I also highly encourage anyone to get Modern Times to go with it as dlc. Most of the expansions are rip -offs but Modern Times is a whole new game. The challenges get harder and harder. On my first system my graphics were weak and the game looked pretty bad. On my new kick butt system I run the game on high/ultra and it looks spectacular. Plus I love the soundtrack. It's not as deep as sim city but five hours will pass like five minutes... I highly recommend it.
    I agree with this. I love the game myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    While it could be a bad power supply followed by a DOA power supply, I actually find it unlikely to be the case. Maybe check the outlet itself. See if it has burn marks on it. Try plugging it into a different outlet. Hell, make sure it didn't burn up your powerstrip. There are plenty of things that could be causing the burning wire smell so I'd be thorough before I'd just take it to a PC Repair Shop (if they're anything like ones that I've been to before, they know less about PCs than I do).
    Yeah, I've made sure to test multiple outlets, multiple power cables, etc. I haven't checked for burn marks yet but I'll probably do that sometime tomorrow. I've ripped this thing apart several times though, only thing I haven't done is pulled the mobo from the case; I suppose that's the next step.

    I did find a way to test the power supply to see if it's giving off any kind of power though by "jumpering" the motherboard cable with a paper clip... it was on Corsair's official youtube so it seemed legit enough. Sure enough, both power supplies at least start it's own fan up so that tells me either the case/switch is dead (unlikely) or the motherboard is fried.

    As far as taking it into a shop, there is one that I've recommended to people before and they've had good results. I'm going to go into it though telling them that I just want to find out the problem... test the power supply (there is a specific tool to test power supplies), test the motherboard (use a different CPU), test the CPU (put the CPU in a different system), just tell me what fails. That should be easy enough for anyone with spare parts laying around, unfortunately I threw out a bunch of old equipment not too long ago.

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    I think I've determined the problem... notice the burnt chip just below the center of the image. I'll be ordering a new mobo.

    uploadfromtaptalk1364244465795.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Just saw this thread. The answer is yes, I really enjoy Tropico 4. I also highly encourage anyone to get Modern Times to go with it as dlc. Most of the expansions are rip -offs but Modern Times is a whole new game. The challenges get harder and harder. On my first system my graphics were weak and the game looked pretty bad. On my new kick butt system I run the game on high/ultra and it looks spectacular. Plus I love the soundtrack. It's not as deep as sim city but five hours will pass like five minutes... I highly recommend it.

    I'm able to run the Tropico 4 Collectors Bundle with all the settings maxed out. I really like the sound track. Until I hear better things for SimCity 5, this will keep me busy enough. Plus with the new Tiger Woods coming out....man on man it's GAME TIME!

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