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    First game of the seaaon versus the Chargers and now I lose Cook jr. for five weeks. My starting TE is Ausberry! Lots of Mcfadden versus Warner and the broncos.

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    I escaped a game against the Bengals led by Matt Ryan. Ryan scrambled inside of two minutes inside my 30 and fumbled. Defence returned it for a TD. Now 7-1.

    I'm having fun running a RBBC. Lamar Miller gets a lot of basic run plays while Daniel Thomas gets all strong I plays and short yardage. Rookie Bo Turner is my third down back and plays in spread formations. AJ Green has 50 catches for over 700 yards and 4 TDs. He'd be really smoking if he never got hurt.

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    Had my butt handed to me last night by Warner, Moss, and the Broncos. I lost 37-23 but that score is flattering as at the half it was 24-3. I was never in this game... ever!!! Plus, I have a ton of injuries right now (however the injuries system is messed up as in-game injuries show different lengths than outside of games.... another tiburon glitch...). Anderson was awful so i pulled him at the half and the kid came in and played well... 254 yards and a td.

    Last season i was #1 D and #32 offense. This season I am #11 offense and #31 defense. What a change.... the weird thing is that my D is better this year than last.

    And now the possible game breaker... FIVE TEAMS ONLY HAVE ONE QB ON THEIR ROSTER!!!!!!!!! This is inexcusable. How does this type of stuff get by testing? Only six teams have 3 qbs. I can live with that but FIVE TEAMS WITH ONLY ONE QB???!!!???!!! Hey I am having fun with Madden but how in any way does this incomplete glitchfest win game of the year from IGN?

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    Wow. Five teams with only 1 QB? This is the first time in six years the Dolphins haven't used more than two.

    I am facing some good injuries right now as well. Lost Cam Wake and another 2 DBs. Winslow's injury is staying at 40 weeks. His career is over. I'm assuming he will retire in the offseason.

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    AJ Green is awesome. My entire passing game is going through him. What a difference maker.
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    Yup i think I have experienced some of the reported problems with regards to injuries. I should have six players out for multiple week injuries yet I only have three. Hopefully this is just a one tim gltch as i have not seen tis problem in season one or the pre season. Have you expereienced any issues with the injury bug Rudy?

    Also, it is kind of neat to see how many teams have 20+ week injuries. Right now there are eight players who are out for 20+ weeks. The longest is a made-up player who is out for 36 weeks.

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    I still don't quite understand the whole scheme not working in offline franchise. I am a west coast offense with a spread D based on 4-3 alignment. In the game it s default VERTICAL and 4-3. None of the specifics can for each player can be changed. However, what exactly does the scheme aspect do if you Play all of the games? I don't sim so does not being able to change schemes impact me at all? The only thing I can think is that it may impact your goals and signings but frankly from what i have seen of free agency, the most money means you sign the player. Does anyone actually know the impact of broken schemes? I may make on online test franchise and sim to see what it does.

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    So i was experimenting tonight with a few created offline and online leagues just to better figure out the schemes situation. Here is wat I found.

    1. In my offline career which i started on season pass back in August you CANNOT change any scheme whatsoever. you cannot change individualschemes nor can you change offense/defense based schemes. Your offense will be vertical and a 4-3 D.

    2. In my ONLINE experiment dynasty I created tonight you CAN change all of the schemes for offense/defense and individuals. However, when practising your playbook still defaults to a 4-3 even if you're scheme is a 3-4 attacking D.

    3. In my OFFLINE experiment dynasty I created tonight the results were mixed. Yes you can change some things but not others. You CANNOT change your offense and defense. That is still stuck on vertical and 4-3. however, you can change individual position specifics (eg QB as pocket passer).

    Based on my online experience it is clear that your goals ARE impacted by your scheme. When i chose power run most of my weekly goals were run based. As of right now all of my goals tend to be passing based (and that's not my style of play).

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    I hadn't paid too much attention to the affect of schemes. I know individual position schemes change your player's overall rating. I think your team scheme may impact if free agents want to sign with you. I did not realize your weekly goals were tied to your overall scheme. I really wish we could set our default playbooks as well.

    I hadn't noticed any injury bugs but Karlos Dansby broke his forearm and is now out an additional 6 weeks. At least I get back Reshad Jones but Wake and Dansby out hurts the defence. I still have 82+ rated backups so it doesn't hurt too bad but when they get fatigued is when I hurt a bit more.

    I think I am going to try to go up to All-Madden again in franchise and tweak to get it right. I'm hopeful a smarter cpu on All-Madden (jury is out on that although it does appear more intense) will be better. I know All-Madden is more aggressive and I'm hoping to see more press coverage and less soft stuff. I've learned to take what the defense gives me. If I see blitz I throw crossing routes or dump it to the back. If they play soft I'll just throw curls. I don't see enough different zone coverages to confuse me on All-Pro. I see too much cover 2 zone press which leads to some gaps for your outside WRs down the sidelines. I'd like to see more man press coverage which can break up the timing but also provide more big plays potentially. Madden on All-Pro doesn't allow for a lot of deep shots down the sidelines since the CBs play so soft. It's a bit frustrating but if you simply take the underneath stuff you make them pay. I wish the cpu would change up their defensive calls more often.

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    I have continued to manually progress McFadden... he is no longer injury prone and he is just chewing it up. last night versus the Chargers he had 28 carries for 264 yards and three td's in addition to four receptions for about 30 yards. I shut out SD 34-0. The result was great as I was dominated by Denver the week before. However, in week one the SD chargers game was an excellent matchup. How could the results be so different just two weeks later?

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    Good luck with going up to all madden. I find sliders and difficulty levels in this game are so difficult to figure out because of the one key variable... Dynamic Player Performance. Hot streaks and cold streaks inside and outside of games make it so challenging to get the right feel. At times I feel that dpp is to overpowered. How can you be on a cold streak before you play one game???

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    DPP does certainly affect things. I see that in my RBs and OL. At one point I had almost my entire OL as hot and they were just mowing down the DL. I do like the idea behind this since the real NFL can be real inconsistent from one week to the next. This builds in an inconsistency even if it's a bit goofy as to how the game decides who is hot or cold.

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    I think i am going to create a just for fun part-time online dynasty as Dennis Allen and the Raiders. I am curious if the game plays differently online (other than schemes). There has been talk that the game is tuned differently for online. I will set up the schemes to my liking and then basically sim most games for the first season and act primarily as gm. If there is a difference i may reasses my current dynasty ccm. However, i suspect there will be no noticeable difference.

    One thing I dislike about ccm is that if you create a coach you must retire the person in order to become someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    DPP does certainly affect things. I see that in my RBs and OL. At one point I had almost my entire OL as hot and they were just mowing down the DL. I do like the idea behind this since the real NFL can be real inconsistent from one week to the next. This builds in an inconsistency even if it's a bit goofy as to how the game decides who is hot or cold.
    I agree that dpp is a great feature (and should be in NCAA) I'm just not sure the logic behind it is always sound (aka pass for 300 yards and next week you are on a cold streak).

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    It's funny in my franchise that the game tweeted that McFadden was benched in favour of Ahmad Bradshow. McFadden is 90 and Bradshaw 88 but I don't know if the scheme resulted in the change. Did progression cause this? It's the second time I've noticed the game tweeting a starting change. The other time was Jonathon Stewart taking over DeAngelo Williams. I also checked the Raiders TEs and guess who is the starting TE - Fasano! Had to laugh about that.

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    Huh, I haven't seen a tweet like that yet. It must be the scheme fit then. It would be very "unmadden-like" not to see the cpu play the player with the highest ovr. As for Fasano, that is funny. The Raiders TE situation based on the default rosters is just awful... they need to pick up ANYONE just to be competitive.

    In my dynasty last night we had a come from beihnd win and beat the Chiefs 17-16 after a last second FG by Janikowski. The cpu made a huge mistake. After going up 16-14 with 33 seconds left, the cpu did a squib kick and I got the ball back at my 46...??? All I needed were two pass plays to get into fg position. Had the cpu kicked it deep, I lose the game. My rookie qb led the comeback. it may be time to pull Anderson and give the kid the start.

    The victory combined with my close fought victory over the Pats the week before move me to 4-1 on the season. I am in a four way tie for lead in the AFC. next up, my new rival... the Houston Texans.
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    Here are the tweets and stories about the Raiders benching McFadden. Sorry about the poor image quality from the ipod. The only other benching story I saw before was the Carolina Panthers swapping their current backs.



    I just checked the other teams QBs as well. There are three or four teams with only 1 QB on the roster. There are a bunch of other teams with only two and the backup QBs in general appear to be pretty weak. Then you see something stupid like Jay Cutler signing with Denver in the offseason when Peyton is still there and #1 on the depth chart! Too many stupid things like that. The Jets spent big money on Patrick Peterson at CB and I check and he's the #3 CB behind Revis and Cromartie. Why would they pay so much for a #3 CB?

    Cutler signed for big bucks to be a backup QB while other teams don't even pay for a backup?




    Raiders depth chart at TE also suspect. You've got a rookie at 71. Why not play him? Scheme or stupidity? FYI, Carson Palmer is the starting QB for the Titans. Josh Freeman is still with the Raiders. Tannehill at 79 still unsigned.


    Patrick Peterson makes big money to be a #3 CB.


    No backup QBs (I know New England is in the same category, maybe one more). I had scouted Max Kodiak one year and he went from a B to a C overall so I didn't bother with him.


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    It's interesting to see how players change via scheme. For me Fasano is a 78 yet under Allen's system he is only a 71. That tweet talking about how insane it is to bench McFadden is classic!

    Thanks for posting all of those pics. It is unfortunate to see that you are also experiencing significant roster issues. A cpu team needs to be programmed to have at least two qb's. What happens if there is an injury? I guess punter is the new qb???

    Rudy, how do you find the salary cap? i actually find it too easy this year. For next season i have $32 million to spend. Right now i have $12 million I can spend. Any player who I have wanted regardless of scheme I have signed. I think you just throw the highest number and the player signs with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Rudy, how do you find the salary cap? i actually find it too easy this year. For next season i have $32 million to spend. Right now i have $12 million I can spend. Any player who I have wanted regardless of scheme I have signed. I think you just throw the highest number and the player signs with you.
    The salary cap is too easy for a couple of reasons. You don't start out with any dead money at the beginning of franchise but the biggest one is the salary demands for mid-tier players.

    The salaries that average players or decent players command are far too little. Only players rated 90+ command crazy contracts. I've seen Anquan Boldin get over $10 million a year. I've seen Roethlisberger and Rodgers get $20M contracts. That's fair or too much for Boldin. But the guys rated 78-82 are far too undervalued. Those are all excellent backups or low level starters and they command less than $2M a year. In fact, many of them can be signed for $1 to $1.5 million a year. That's way too cheap. A guy like Richie Incognito on Miami made over $3 million this year. Richard Marshall is an 80 rated CB that got $5 million a year. Those guys on the open market in Madden make less than half of that.

    It means as a user you can easily stay under the cap by avoiding the really expensive guys and just signing the mid-tier guys. The cpu doesn't do this. In fact they tend to avoid them. After free agency there are way too many 80+ rated and high 70s rated players unsigned. I could understand an older veteran not signing and demanding big money but the rest makes no sense, especially since so many guys could be used to upgrade a cpu roster. Carolina still only has one WR on its roster above a 70. It creates further problems because the cpu devalues them in every way and lets guys like Matt Ryan, Josh Freeman and Jake Locker just leave because they are only 83-86 rated players. It makes no sense, especially since they don't have a replacement on their roster. Why would Cinci let both Dalton and AJ Green leave? Why not use the franchise tag at least?

    EA has traditionally done a horrible job on the default free agents and it continues throughout. Imo, no free agent left over should even have a 70 grade, especially if they are younger. If you need to find a body off the street, you should be desperate and not be able to find a decent player so easily.

    If the mid tier free agents costed more and the cpu spent their money more wisely the cap would be far more difficult. I haven't had any real problems although I'm pretty tight against the cap right now. Of course I don't have a single backup on my team under 70 and most are at least 75 with every starter at 80+. I have 7 guys 90+ but that includes Winslow.
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    I agree that free agency is just silly based on how high of quality players with no employment actually are. There are 19 current free agents who are rated in the 80's. If I wished i could stack my team with them. Here are a few attached images (low ipad quality).

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    And look at how cheap all those guys are with many around $1 million. I could understand if they were asking for over $4 million but not under $2 million. Either way good football players like that shouldn't be unemployed.

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