CLW also seems to be forgetting that sometimes people like playing teams in the other division ... y'know, for rivalries and the like. And that's why 16 is a nightmare. A 8-game schedule (which, being honest, I'm 99% sure most of the conference will be keeping as long as possible) means 7 intradivision games and only one rotating cross division game. 16 years to rotate through all conference opponents.
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Yeah, 8 conference games is just the best because it enables for equal home/away setups for the conferences games, unlike what you get from 9 game setups. 16 teams is doable, but if you're going to go with 4 16 team super conferences, they need to stop fuckin' around and make a 16 team playoff already. That way, all this bullshit about being able to go with 4 OOC easy wins and be bowl eligible with a 2-6 conference record is just trash. Fuck the bowl games, give me a December to Remember.
i dont agree mors. i think 9 conference games would be best for every 16 team conference, as you'd get to go through the other division quicker (for the fans anyway). it also adds another conference game to everyone's schedule, thereby adding the potential for another quality win/loss. with 8 conference games for a 16 team conference, it'll only encourage more of the better college football teams to try and schedule the bottomfeeders of the mid majors. more an more teams will try to stack their ooc schedules with 4 weak teams, as then, they'd only need 2 conference wins to become bowl eligible.
you wanna try and cut down on the amount of teams going to bowl games? add another conference game. this takes away an ooc game for teams, and if you're a big name college team, thats taking away a guaranteed win over a crap sun-belt/c-usa/mountain west/wac team.
Certainly gaining more and more rumors but it looks like the ACC could be losing two members to the BigTen here soon maybe.
Georgia Tech & Virgina
And to counter the Big Ten trying to make a play on the Atlanta market, the SEC will probably grab Virginia Tech (to try and claim some of the Virginia/DC market) and someone like North Carolina or something.Originally Posted by psusnoop
Yeah it will not end haha
The lack of parity between 5 conference home games for half the schools and 4 conference home games for the rest is enough to make it not "best". It has advantages over the 8 game schedule, I absolutely agree, but in a system that is solely being driven by money, the uneven-ness of the 9 game schedule is enough to make most of the conferences avoid it, IMO.
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Watching the creation of these mega conferences just makes me sad. I miss the old days with small conferences and a large variety in scheduling. Very soon I suspect we will see out of conference games being the exception rather than the rule.
Huh?
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You keep forgetting this is all about $ money (and potentially a BIG F OFF! to the NCAA as the 4 conferences could just leave and do whatever they wanted). What "rivalries" doeshave with ANYONE in the B1G? Ditto
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in the ACC?
Answer: None
You can EASILY set up 16 team conferences to keep any "rivalries" you wanted with the divisions.
rumors of pac12 looking into san diego state and boise state for possible expansion.
Uhm, no. Try to setup an SEC with some of the West's rivalries with the East maintained. Good luck.
And either the SEC or Big 12 will come calling to Tallahassee, and suddenly the ACC is looking on the way out like the Big East is looking now.
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I wonder, theoretically and legally speaking, what would happen to all the exit fee money if the entire ACC conference imploded at once? $50 million X 9 or 10 teams is QUITE a bit of money to figure out what should be done with it.
Of course, that would never happen, but if something catastrophic happened that caused the conference to dissolve into only 5 or 6 teams in one offseason, one has to wonder how the exit fees would work or if, since the conference is dissolving, if they would even need to be paid anymore.
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Think about it. Lets say you are in the SEC and you believe that you have the 16 best teams in the nation. Why take on an"inferior" team from the PAC 12 (14-16)? As a conference just have all games played within the conference. It would run just like a professional league. I don't want to see that but I think it is a possibility.
I've heard some local sports guys discuss that - way before the majority the conference changes took place. They hypothesized that eventually all of the major programs (BCS conferences) would band together and leave the jurisdiction of the NCAA to form their own league OR simply use their power to ensure the post-season structure only features them and bump the non-BCS programs to a new lower-tier.
The "leave the NCAA" idea has been floated in multiple areas over the last year or so. But Jaymo's idea is something I certainly haven't thought about before. If you have a 16 team conference, do you just play a 12 game conference schedule? Is there a reason not to?
The first, and foremost, reason I can think of is that eliminates the guaranteed payday games. So schools like Ohio State go from 7 or 8 home games to just 6. So major schools, the ones that can get payday games for 3 or 4 of their OOC games, would probably be against it. But that also means you don't have to pay for the payday games. Maybe that's enough to offset?
I agree with Jaymo that I'd hate to see it. But it is compelling. And, in a way, I'd prefer it over the mess that would be an 8 game schedule with 16 teams.
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I think I have finally reached the point where this is making my head hurt.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...st-sources-say
Good, fuck them. They're the god damn reason the football side of the conference is fucked to begin with. I hope they all rot in fuckin' meaningless basketball hell.I think I have finally reached the point where this is making my head hurt.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...st-sources-say
Actually, this is the first decision to actually make sense to me.I think I have finally reached the point where this is making my head hurt.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...st-sources-say
I assume this is stemming from some WVU background stuff ... but ... how do you figure? How is the basketball side at fault for the Boise State, SDSU, and Tulanes getting added to the conference?
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It stems from all the way back to before BC, Miami, and Virginia Tech left. The basketball only schools basically did NOTHING to prevent Miami, BC, and Virginia Tech from leaving the conference for the ACC. They knew that they were trying to leave and never lifted a finger to try to pursed them to stay or anything. If the Big East would have kept those teams in it's conference, things would be MUCH different than they are now from the football side of things and the basketball side of things would have stayed the way it was then. But, the basketball schools decided to fuck the football side, and the Big East has been scrambling to keep schools in it's conference ever since.
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