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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    From what I heard the processor itself goes for $300 on Newegg. So probably a little more than half.
    Yeah. It would be about the same, but, as I said above, you got fucked in the video card department. Video card is definitely going to SEVERELY hold you back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Actually, worse than that, you got kinda screwed because that computer basically has onboard video, which is atrocious for video games.
    Yeah... I told him he'll want to upgrade that video card as a first measure. That said, my research says that the 7570 is equivalent to the GeForce 9800 which was a hell of a card for it's time. I had that a couple years ago and could run most games without any issue, though I would have to tweak with the settings in most cases. That said, the processor itself will help out in a lot of games on it's own. He won't be running Skyrim at max settings but he'll be able to play GTAIV, DayZ, etc. at fairly high settings.




    Speaking for me personally, I jumped on the Spectre 32" 1080p TV from Newegg to use as my primary monitor for $200. It will be overkill, but I'll love it in the process. I was wanting to find a 27" but practically all of those were more expensive... I figure what the hell, I can scoot my chair further back if needed

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    You're going to go blind

    Yeah I'm going to upgrade the video card at tax time most likely. The only game I'm really wanting to play at this point on PC is DayZ. But wanted a lot more processing power for making videos.

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    So since I'm so far out of the PC gaming community...what's a good way to control the games? Get a controller? Mouse & Keyboard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBHuskers View Post
    So since I'm so far out of the PC gaming community...what's a good way to control the games? Get a controller? Mouse & Keyboard?
    I just stick with mouse & keyboard... just get a decent mouse (I prefer the Logitech gaming mice). WASD controls become second nature after awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    I just stick with mouse & keyboard... just get a decent mouse (I prefer the Logitech gaming mice). WASD controls become second nature after awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    Actually, worse than that, you got kinda screwed because that computer basically has onboard video, which is atrocious for video games.
    A physical card with 1 GB of GDDR5 is "basically onboard video" now? Man, things have changed in the PC market. Glad I'm done with it, after all. I miss EVE, but keeping up with the Joneses is tough.

    ( Yes, I know 1 GB is a small amount now. It's just amazing how things have changed. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    A physical card with 1 GB of GDDR5 is "basically onboard video" now? Man, things have changed in the PC market. Glad I'm done with it, after all. I miss EVE, but keeping up with the Joneses is tough.

    ( Yes, I know 1 GB is a small amount now. It's just amazing how things have changed. )
    It's not so much the 1GB but more so the model... it's a mid grade model, though I imagine you already knew that. It's certainly better than onboard video but it's not anything to write home about in terms of today's high-end games.
    Last edited by gschwendt; 11-26-2012 at 11:01 PM.

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    Looking, you actually can't even purchase a 7000 series card below 7750 (both newegg & pricewatch). You can find a 6570 for $45 after MiR on newegg and it has 1GB as well.

    Also of note, you can buy a 1GB physical card for as low was $20 after MiR or a 2GB for $40... anymore, memory with a graphics card isn't important, it's the GPU with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    it's not anything to write home about in terms of today's high-end games.
    Yeah, I knew that.
    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    Looking, you actually can't even purchase a 7000 series card below 7750 (both newegg & pricewatch).
    I noticed that too. I sat on that post for a little while, trying to confirm that the 7570 was actually a card and not actually onboard graphics.

    Just for perspective, the last time I had a working PC with a working graphics card was around 3 years ago. I believe my last card was a nVidia 8800GTS (or maybe that was just my last working card). My current laptop has 1 GB of RAM and my last working desktop (used only for browsing and the occasional spreadsheet) had less than 512 MB of RAM.

    I'm fully aware those two machines are absolute crap. They're crap because I'm saving money until I can actually afford to spend it. But they are valuable for perspective, when JB's GPU has more RAM than a whole desktop I was using. It's just amazing how things have changed, where a 1GB dedicated card is barely better than on-board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Just for perspective, the last time I had a working PC with a working graphics card was around 3 years ago. I believe my last card was a nVidia 8800GTS (or maybe that was just my last working card). My current laptop has 1 GB of RAM and my last working desktop (used only for browsing and the occasional spreadsheet) had less than 512 MB of RAM.
    If it makes you feel any better, I have 16GB RAM and 1.5GB memory on my graphics card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    If it makes you feel any better, I have 16GB RAM and 1.5GB memory on my graphics card.
    Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.
    That's not enthusiast at all Jeff. You could build a PC with 16 gigs of RAM, a 2.5 gig Video card, a 2 TB HD, and a processor that's better than what Tommy and I have right now (AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz) for $500, easily. PC's aren't expensive if you build them yourself (as I'm sure you know).

    Personally, I need to upgrade the RAM in my computer because I went cheap and only got 4 gigs worth and I can tell it's bottlenecking my performance. Though, while I'm at it, I'll probably upgrade my video card as well since it's a bit on the low side as well (currently Geforce GTX 460 Fermi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Lol. I genuinely couldn't care less. Because if I wanted to, I know I could have that. I just have no interest in an enthusiast PC right now.
    Yeah, I figured... I just saw an opportunity to keep a running joke going.

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    First thing I'll do is get Arma II to play DayZ

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    Okay, so Arma II is definitely one get. What else should I get that is a PC only (not on console) title? Guild Wars II?

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    You better have tons of time if you want something like Guild Wars. I'd recommend Diablo 3 if you like dungeon crawlers, but it's back up to full price after being $10 at the Microsoft Store a few days ago. Planetside 2 just released on Steam and is free and very good. Amnesia is another good one if you like psychological horror.

    If your card has PhysX support, Borderlands 2. The effects are awesome.

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    I've never played Diablo. I might try to get I & II and give them a whirl.

    I definitely want to get the new Sim City too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I OU a Beatn View Post
    You better have tons of time if you want something like Guild Wars. I'd recommend Diablo 3 if you like dungeon crawlers, but it's back up to full price after being $10 at the Microsoft Store a few days ago. Planetside 2 just released on Steam and is free and very good. Amnesia is another good one if you like psychological horror.

    If your card has PhysX support, Borderlands 2. The effects are awesome.

    Do you have diablo 3? How is it?

    Minus the no reason to replay the game excuse is it worth one playthrough?

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