I really hope the computers have Oregon vs. Alabama in the BCS title game, even if KSU and Notre Dame are undefeated as well. I think Oregin has the best shot at beating 'Bama.
I really hope the computers have Oregon vs. Alabama in the BCS title game, even if KSU and Notre Dame are undefeated as well. I think Oregin has the best shot at beating 'Bama.
MVP said "title hunt" but what he really means is "impressive record". OSU may be ineligible, but we're still undefeated, and that's going to cause people to pay more attention to him. I don't know why you mentioned OSU's ineligibility or North Carolina's bowl ban. Neither has any bearing on whether or not a player should be considered for an individual reward.Originally Posted by gigemaggs99
Also, we already threw out the Sophomore issue. Tim Tebow handled that for us.
I don't know who you're quoting, but they're probably talking more about looking at the season as a whole rather than individual contests. So you don't get caught up in "He ran for 500 yards against an FCS school! Heisman!" talk. Not that Manziel is doing that, but I think you get my point.
And Kenyon Barner and Marcus Mariota are absolutely going to get looked at, especially after the way they ran through and over SC.
Any talk of AJ McCarron being a Heisman is ridiculous.
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Anyone talking about that needs their head examined.
USC cheating??? Tell me it isn't so.....
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/s...game-footballs
Funny he acted all alone in this
Houston CB DJ Hayden is lucky to be alive after he suffered a freak injury in practice Tuesday evening:
Nov. 8, 2012
HOUSTON - Houston football player D.J. Hayden was transported by ambulance from the University of Houston football practice facility to Memorial Hermann Hospital on Tuesday afternoon for evaluation of an injury sustained from a collision in practice.
Walter Lowe, M.D., University of Houston Head Team Physician, confirmed Thursday that Hayden required immediate surgery for a tear of the inferior vena cava, the large vein that carries blood from the lower half of the body back to the heart. Lowe described the injury as very serious and life threatening while commending the coordinated response from the University of Houston Athletics Training Staff, EMS paramedics and the trauma staff at Memorial Hermann.
Hayden is currently alert and in stable yet critical condition in Memorial Hermann ICU unit.
The University of Houston Athletics Department will release further updates on Hayden as they become available.
Statement from Walter Lowe, M.D., University of Houston Head Team Physician
"This injury has never been seen or reported in association with a football injury and is more associated with high speed motor vehicle injuries. The type of injury D.J. had is 95 percent fatal in the field and we are all very thankful for the coordinate response from the University of Houston trainers, EMS paramedics, the trauma team at Memorial Hermann and operating surgeon Dr. John Holcomb."
Statement from Tony Levine, University of Houston Head Football Coach
"D.J. is a tremendous young man and has been a great asset to our program, both on and off the field. I ask that everyone continue to keep D.J. and his family in their thoughts and prayers. We are very fortunate to have some of the nation's top physicians and medical facilities just minutes away from our campus and I would like to extend our appreciation for their efforts on Tuesday evening. We thank you for respecting the privacy of D.J. and his family at this time. We look forward to supporting D.J. on his road to recovery."
Fans wishing to send well-wishes to Hayden are encouraged to do so at at the Houston Athletics Facebook Page or via e-mail at uhcougarsdotcom@gmail.com
no reason to think of a conspiracy. he lost his job because of it. 3 of the balls were re-inflated before the game even started, and another 2 were re-inflated at halftime.Funny he acted all alone in this
As much as I hate to agree with Lane Kiffin, he's right that there's no real advantage for USC from doing that. So no reason to have a conspiracy with that intent.Funny he acted all alone in this
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So why does the NCAA have rules in place to dictate the proper inflation of game balls? Just asking because saying "sure we broke the rules, but hey it doesn't really give either team an advantage" talk is exactly the kind of BS that hurts the NCAA in the long run.
Also you really think this student manager deflated these balls with the sole purpose of not gaining an advantage? Did he do this because he wanted to get fired?
Just as a side note, I really don't care if the balls were under inflated or over inflated I just despise Lane Kiffin and everything he stands for. Felt I should give a little background of where I'm coming from to be fair to these last few posts within this thread.
sure it was to gain an advantage. deflated balls are easier to catch...but he obviously did a terrible job in letting the air out to the point that the refs caught 3 of the balls before the game even started. everyone has said that the stuend manager acted alone, even the student manager himself. he paid the price for it.
furthermore, if you know what kind of person the AD Pat Haden is, there's zero chance that he would try to cover this up.
sidenote: i cant wait to see marqise lee become the next ironman on saturday.
Of course he would say that, what else is he going to say. I was told to do such and such and was following the direction of my peers?
I still call BS on this, just doesn't pass the smell test to me. I call for a NCAA investigation into lack of institutional control
Well, this is one piece of the story that hasn't been totally clear to me. My understanding is that the manager was deinflating the balls on the Oregon sideline. Now, foolishly, I took that to mean he was deinflating the balls used by Oregon. I forgot that A) that would never be allowed; and B) the teams both have their own footballs. Now, getting my head on straight, of course there's an advantage to an under-inflated ball (though obviously it wasn't enough to help).
And I, too, can't stand Lane Kiffin. That's why I hated to agree with him.
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The student manager got the idea to deflate the balls himself? Riiiiiiight. Dan Patrick was talking about it this morning, and he's right.
Yeah I hope more comes from this
pat haden was one of the lead guys on the committee that just passed the new penalty rules for head coaches. if he found out LK told the student manager, he'd probably self impose penalties way harsher than what other schools would for the same thing.Yeah I hope more comes from this
the student manager said he did it all on his own will. not everything is a conspiracy.
You don't think it's kind of funny that a little old student manager decided all by himself that hey I will see if this helps and I will drop the inflation slightly.
If you believe that then I got some things to sell you. Sure I'm going way overboard maybe with wanting USC to get slapped because of my dislike of lK but that doesn't change the fact that someone with more knowledge and authority had to have given that student manager direction.
it could be as simple as an honest mistake, that the student manager, thought the balls felt over-inflated, and decided to deflate them slightly, thereby doing his job. he might not have known that they were already approved for game use. according to ncaa rules, the footballs have to be between 12.5 and 13.5 psi. if the balls he deflated were at 12.3 or 12.2 (just missing the mark) it could very easily have been an honest mistake on his part. you may think its unlikely, but its very possible. additionally, the student manager was apparently seen deflating the balls in front of the oregon sideline before the game. oregon asked the refs to check it and the balls were deemed to be bad. honestly, if the intention to cheat was there, why would he do it in front of the oregon sideline? why not hide it?
i, for one, think its retarded to think that LK had anything to do with this, especially when you factor in that a deflated ball would hurt the kicking and punting game. the deflated balls wouldnt travel as far on the kickoffs or punts, and when oregon has de'anthony thomas back there, i dont think LK would have sacrificed a more catchable ball for his receivers at the expense of thomas running one back on him. USC's passing game has been great all year long.....why would LK suddenly order the balls to be under-inflated for the oregon game, when we havent needed to use deflated footballs at any point this year?
look at things with some common sense snoop. all the stories match there. the student manager said he acted alone, LK said no one on staff or any of his players knew about it. with pat haden being on the committee that just approved the new coaching penalties, if he found out that LK had a part in this, haden would have no problem firing LK and getting a head coach in there of his choosing. the kid was fired, not to cover USC's ass, but his actions resulted in the school being fined and reprimanded by the pac12.
All I can say is that if I were a student manager and someone above me told me to deflate the balls and I got fired when busted, I'd sing like a canary. If I was going down, I'd bring down anyone else involved that wasn't another student manager. That's all I'm saying.
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