Quote Originally Posted by psuexv View Post
I don't know why you keep coming back to this one and this seems to be your basis for a lot of your argument, the fact that a family can't have more than one NFL caliber player. Peyton Manning may be the best QB to ever play the game and it's hard to imagine that he's been to a couple of SBs?!? And it's unfathomable that his brother is a NFL QB who's made it to the SB, why? Why is it such a great story that they've made it to the SB? If I remember correctly, both years the Eli has made it the big story was the Pats and their unbelievable offenses and nothing with Eli. Even after the wins not many people say Eli won those games. Most of it was the Giants D, the David Tyree catch(which how in the world would you "fix" that.) Nobody but you even talks about how many SBs the Mannings have been to so I guess I don't understand why this is your main point. And if people do care, why wouldn't they have the Manning SB. If the NFL wants to "sell" the Manning name why haven't these two ever met up in the SB?
its mathematically impossible to happen so frequently ,so easily. It has nothing to do with your pseudo football knowledge about defenses or what ever.
Quite frankly when you manipulate games you can make it look like a team is winning because of a good defense.Stats are just a byproduct , not the effect of a cause. But the lack of offensive stats should cause your spidy senses to tingle.
Dilfer goes 11 TDs and 12 ints..I'm sorry but no defense is good enough to make up for that without manipulation.

I bring up that Manning example because its truly extreme. I'm trying to get you to actually think logically. It simply cant happen.

you have just been indoctrinated by sports cliché logic that has no basis in fact.
parity and any team can win on any given sunday. At Strahans hall of fame speech that was obviously written for him by the NFL, he kept repeating the phrase" the improbable is not impossible" over and over again.

he was trying to get that ringing in your ear so you believe any outcome they feed you.
that way you don't question 4 rookie QBs doing well as soon as they get into the league.
You sit and totally don't question Luck/Colts beating the so called mighty Seahawks and Niners but taking a complete dive against the St Louis Rams, at home no less.

any team can win on any given sunday.
the stars get the calls.
Defense wins championships.
sometimes you just don't get the breaks.
team of destiny.
the refs are human,they make mistakes.
They just wanted it more.

none of these are truths but relied upon clichés to explain away anything that comes up so you don't question the outcome.

LOL to say that the stars get the calls already immediately means outcomes are manipulated but people cant put 2 and 2 together.It excuses obvious manipulation.

heres a news flash for you- there is actually no such thing as a sports dynasty. Its a cliché fed to you so you believe a team can get to and win multiple championships in a completely natural way. Its impossible for a team to get to and win 4 championships in 6 years without manipulation.But people just shut off their logical mind when it comes to watching sports.

if parity exists how come the same teams keep making the playoffs every year ? oh sure, they throw a wild card bone to a different team here and there but theres only a few teams that cycle constantly getting in or near the top. Parity doesn't exist unless it applies to everyone.
don't give me your sports clichés about better coaching/ownership/ or players or what ever. Those are just excuses media feeds you so you think it explains it " they just know how to win!" LOL

all these other teams go through some form of a cycle but you want to believe the Patriots can win for 14 straight years ? and your excuse when questioned is that "well, Brady and Belichick are just that good."No QB and no coach are that good.
It simply isn't possible without manipulation. But that's ok because America believes and loves the story. Last year the Patriots made to a conference final with 13 signed rookies. Its getting freaking absurd.

again..I repeat this one. Frank Reich throws 27 for 47 passes all year and yet is able to lead the Bills to the greatest comeback in NFL history in one fantastic 3rd quarter ? No.

and then the media tells you that of course it was possible because he did it once in college. Him doing it once in college in no way makes it possible to happen again = cliché sports logic that has no basis in truth or fact.