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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    And Idaho... Though expectations are that they'll almost certainly drop down.
    Depends on whether you count going independent as a "deal?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gschwendt View Post
    And Idaho... Though expectations are that they'll almost certainly drop down.
    Indications were today that they've officially decided to be Indy. I hadn't heard that previously that I can recall, but it was mentioned today as if it was known.
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    While it's sad to see a conference die, and teams (Idaho and NMSU) get left blowing in the wind), THANK YOU LORD! The WAC will be gone next year and I can FINALLY have truly, 100% realistic conferences in my dynasties without having to deal with the 4 team minimum in a conference crap.

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    Not that I know enough about the topic but is Idaho financially capable of being an independent in the NCAA???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Not that I know enough about the topic but is Idaho financially capable of being an independent in the NCAA???
    They're gonna whore themselves out to big schools for the paydays.

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    something will get worked out, Its not like theyll be thrown aside

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    something will get worked out, Its not like theyll be thrown aside
    ... they already have been? Every conference, AFAIK, has rejected them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    ... they already have been? Every conference, AFAIK, has rejected them.
    something will keep them from lowering their already low status LOL. Theyll either be in the MWC or the Pac 12 before its all over. Here come the Super Conferences

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    Quote Originally Posted by ram29jackson View Post
    something will keep them from lowering their already low status LOL. Theyll either be in the MWC or the Pac 12 before its all over. Here come the Super Conferences
    Yes, Idaho and New Mexico State will be Pac-12 bound, it's only a matter of time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothPancakes View Post
    Yes, Idaho and New Mexico State will be Pac-12 bound, it's only a matter of time.

    why add 4 irrelevant schols just to dismiss a couple others ?

    odds are these schools and the MAC, MWC and Sun Belt will be sucked into larger conferences soon enough. But what ever, Notre Dame played schools in the 40s that dont exist anymore. It happens, life marches forward.

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    As silly as Ram sounds, don't be surprised to see the 12-16 team "super" conferences coming soon. All indications are that the Big 12 is going to expand to, at the very least, 12 teams after this season (stealing teams from the ACC). I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC make a move on expanding as well as 14 teams is a bit silly.

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    I know the SEC won't expand just for the sake of expanding. They'll stay at 14 if they can't find 2 schools "worthy" of the league. They'd take VA Tech in a heartbeat but since VA Tech comes "packaged" with VA, they aren't biting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    As silly as Ram sounds, don't be surprised to see the 12-16 team "super" conferences coming soon. All indications are that the Big 12 is going to expand to, at the very least, 12 teams after this season (stealing teams from the ACC). I wouldn't be surprised to see the SEC make a move on expanding as well as 14 teams is a bit silly.
    Oh I know it's only a matter of time before super conferences happen. But Idaho and New Mexico State are NOT going to end up in the Pac-12 like ram believes, whatever the fuck he is smoking to believe that. It'd be teams like Air Force, Colorado State, Fresno State, Nevada, even Hawaii. Idaho and New Mexico State would never get even get a friend request on Facebook from the Pac-12 unless the Pac-12 was expanding to 24 or 32 teams or something. Hell, Idaho and New Mexico State can't even get the fucking Mountain West to invite them in, instead getting the cold shoulder from them, the Sun Belt and C-USA. What the fuck would make the Pac-12 suddenly give a shit about two bottom feeder teams that none of the "lesser" conferences even want anything to do with?

    Just like the MAC will not be getting sucked into the major conferences, at least conferences that actually matter like the Big 12 or Big Ten. At most, Northern Illinois, Ohio, maybe Toledo and Central Michigan would gain some interest from someone like the Big East, but that would be it. The Big Ten, if they truly wanted to expand beyond 12, would raid C-USA before they would even consider the MAC (the Big East probably ahead of C-USA if the Big East doesn't find the stability they are trying to achieve over the next 3-4 years).

    Select teams from the Mountain West, C-USA, Sun Belt and a small handful from the MAC would possibly get invites to "lesser" super conferences, like the Big East or ACC. But not all of them. The rejects left over would just mold together, like the WAC (before the MWC split off) or like the original plan for "joint conference" or whatever the actual term was for the Mountain West and C-USA to join forces last year, into a conference of losers that none of the super conferences want anything to do with other than cheap, easy wins during the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    All of the WAC schools, except for NMSt, have deals in place already. San Jose State is going to the MWC.
    Sucks to suck a move to the FCS is prolly what's gonna happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    As silly as Ram sounds, don't be surprised to see the 12-16 team "super" conferences coming soon.
    Well, if you're going to include 12 team conferences in the "super" idea .... duh. That's a given. But 16 doesn't seem as likely now as it did last summer. People saw with the SEC's logistical nightmare at 14 that 16 might not be the great idea it was thought to be (by some).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Well, if you're going to include 12 team conferences in the "super" idea .... duh. That's a given. But 16 doesn't seem as likely now as it did last summer. People saw with the SEC's logistical nightmare at 14 that 16 might not be the great idea it was thought to be (by some).
    14 teams are definitely a nightmare, but that's always been the case because it's not symmetrical. 16 teams are symmetrical and shouldn't be anymore of an issue than 12 teams are. You play the 7 teams in your division plus 2 teams in a round robin format in the other division with 3 OOC games. Not sure why that's a scheduling nightmare at all. These power conference teams need to quit being pussies and actually play 9 conference games. I know that's the hangup and it's ridiculous. They already play Kickourassatyourplace University three times a year, what more do they want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by morsdraconis View Post
    They already play Kickourassatyourplace University three times a year, what more do they want?
    I believe, if I'm remembering what I've heard correctly, that part of the issue is that a 9 game schedule leaves them with 5 conference home games in one year, and 4 conference home games the next. And, financially, they have an issue with that (probably because if they have one less conference game they can easily replace it with a guaranteed home game against Directional U).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    I believe, if I'm remembering what I've heard correctly, that part of the issue is that a 9 game schedule leaves them with 5 conference home games in one year, and 4 conference home games the next. And, financially, they have an issue with that (probably because if they have one less conference game they can easily replace it with a guaranteed home game against Directional U).
    Well NCAA being the cashcow that it is, maybe the answer with super conferences is to expand the amount of games a school can play by one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    Well NCAA being the cashcow that it is, maybe the answer with super conferences is to expand the amount of games a school can play by one?
    Nah. We can't conflict with final exams, y'know.

    If they added a week, it would be interesting to see if suddenly we had 10 conference games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHCross View Post
    Nah. We can't conflict with final exams, y'know.

    If they added a week, it would be interesting to see if suddenly we had 10 conference games.
    Like the NCAA or BCS ever cared about final exams.

    I don't know why they ever gave those excuses. All they care about is money, they couldn't give two shits about any final exams. If they cared about them missing classes, you wouldn't have 8 teams flying to Dayton for play-in games on Tuesday and Wednesday, and then 64 teams flying all over the country and playing games on Thursday and Friday (with Saturday/Sunday follow up) for two consecutive weeks.

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