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    Can you turn getting fired off in CCM?

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    Maybe I'm just getting old but I preferred playing on Very Slow this morning. The commentary has nice variety but many times is inaccurate. A WR drops a pass and Phil trashes the QB. A RB cuts back and Simms said it was a terrible decision and that the RB should have cut back. I wish Phil Simms wasn't as obsessed about first downs lol. Both Madden and NCAA commentary need to understand that a 47 yard FG is NOT a long FG, at least in the NFL. NFL kickers make that kick in their sleep now. That is never a distance issue unless your kicker is 40 years old. WRs need to do a better job of trying to drag their feet near the sidelines.

    I don't know why when I drop my Rush Defense to 25 on All-Pro it drops me to Rookie difficulty. I don't think that matters and was an issue last year but I made it HARDER on myself. That was odd.

    Honestly there was a part of me that wasn't sure if I was going to buy Madden 13 initially but I will. I just have to accept that these football games won't hold my interest year round (or even 6 months) like they did when I was younger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    Maybe I'm just getting old but I preferred playing on Very Slow this morning. The commentary has nice variety but many times is inaccurate. A WR drops a pass and Phil trashes the QB. A RB cuts back and Simms said it was a terrible decision and that the RB should have cut back. I wish Phil Simms wasn't as obsessed about first downs lol. Both Madden and NCAA commentary need to understand that a 47 yard FG is NOT a long FG, at least in the NFL. NFL kickers make that kick in their sleep now. That is never a distance issue unless your kicker is 40 years old. WRs need to do a better job of trying to drag their feet near the sidelines.

    I don't know why when I drop my Rush Defense to 25 on All-Pro it drops me to Rookie difficulty. I don't think that matters and was an issue last year but I made it HARDER on myself. That was odd.

    Honestly there was a part of me that wasn't sure if I was going to buy Madden 13 initially but I will. I just have to accept that these football games won't hold my interest year round (or even 6 months) like they did when I was younger.
    That's becoming true of myself as well. Now, I still play NCAA and Madden for the calendar year but I usually now take several months off for each game. The type of immersion for the "offline franchise guy" like me just isn't what Tiburon has historically done well. At this point I need something more to hold my interest. Plus, I have been playing these type of football games for a decade and basically at the heart of it, they are the same game over and over year after year.

    As to the rookie difficulty comment... it's just a bug. Don't worry about it though because the difficulty is NOT rookie even though it says it is. I haven't tried very slow but I do enjoy the game on slow.

    For me, I just wish editing and play any game were available. That would Make Madden a sure buy. Right now though until season ticket proves me wrong I am still leaning towards no buy.

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    I'm not going to deny that playing the Madden 13 demo on slow hasn't made me at least think about renting the game to see how the Infinity Engine has been tuned up. My main problem with Madden 13 is the Connected Careers mode just don't feel it is for me at all. I will miss everything that was added to Madden 12 Franchise too much so I'm passing on buying it. Here is hoping EA Tiburon understands their monumental gaffe in my eyes by removing all the cool aspects of Franchise that I enjoyed in Madden 12. If Madden 14 gives me everything back from Madden 12 with improved player movement, true OL/DL and WR/DB interactions, more stat overlays, highlight shows at half-time and post-game, in studio score updates from around the league with highlights, and improved player AI then I'll be back to getting both NCAA and Madden(next gen here I come hopefully, lol).

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    There are certainly omissions from this new franchise mode that bother people to varying degrees but I am interested in the new scouting system and the new FA system. Last year's FA e-bay system was a huge disappointment to me. So was the scouting as it did very little to help you and you got NO basic info like 40 times that all GMs should have available. I felt scouting was a complete waste of time and that hurt the draft. Plus, the few kids I was able to scout for true ratings always ended up with worse ratings than projected. It just seemed like almost every first rounder was worse than what they said while there were quite a few gems in the 3rd and 4th round. I honestly felt I should just trade down last year and acquire a ton of mid round picks because my 3rd round pick was just as good as my first rounder.

    I have read almost no info on the new FA system other than it is a recruiting style bidding system. Nobody has said if it works well or not. They are having one final community day to test the new CCM mode so maybe we'll get more soon.

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    Just played the demo.

    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    There are certainly omissions from this new franchise mode that bother people to varying degrees but I am interested in the new scouting system and the new FA system.
    That's why I'm planning to get Season Ticket, so I can try that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    There are certainly omissions from this new franchise mode that bother people to varying degrees but I am interested in the new scouting system and the new FA system. Last year's FA e-bay system was a huge disappointment to me. So was the scouting as it did very little to help you and you got NO basic info like 40 times that all GMs should have available. I felt scouting was a complete waste of time and that hurt the draft. Plus, the few kids I was able to scout for true ratings always ended up with worse ratings than projected. It just seemed like almost every first rounder was worse than what they said while there were quite a few gems in the 3rd and 4th round. I honestly felt I should just trade down last year and acquire a ton of mid round picks because my 3rd round pick was just as good as my first rounder.

    I have read almost no info on the new FA system other than it is a recruiting style bidding system. Nobody has said if it works well or not. They are having one final community day to test the new CCM mode so maybe we'll get more soon.
    Here is an upload from Tradition... it's MOST of the draft. I haven't watched it all but you get the idea.

    Last edited by jaymo76; 08-19-2012 at 12:00 AM.

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    Holy crap what a bunch of cheesers all these users are my goodness they went ahead and practically stole every 1st rd pick from the CPU teams. How embarrassing to put it nicely lol these guys are really going out of their way to do a sim nfl draft there, NOT. 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick of RD 1 went to the User of the Ravens lol and he took 2 MLB's. Its like watching my brother draft giving backups and mid round picks for 1st rd selections, lol terrible trade logic. Minus the unbelievable cheese of the Users I think the draft works fairly well though with Tweets and generic player info by Wingo. However, we never got to see the draft recap or how each of these unscouted players turned out to be rated so still a lot of unanswered questions about the drafts.

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    Definitely a lot more immersive with the draft. I hope we get enough scouting points this year. Not enough last year imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolverineJay View Post
    Holy crap what a bunch of cheesers all these users are my goodness they went ahead and practically stole every 1st rd pick from the CPU teams. How embarrassing to put it nicely lol these guys are really going out of their way to do a sim nfl draft there, NOT. 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick of RD 1 went to the User of the Ravens lol and he took 2 MLB's. Its like watching my brother draft giving backups and mid round picks for 1st rd selections, lol terrible trade logic. Minus the unbelievable cheese of the Users I think the draft works fairly well though with Tweets and generic player info by Wingo. However, we never got to see the draft recap or how each of these unscouted players turned out to be rated so still a lot of unanswered questions about the drafts.
    Yeah I am a ittle worried by the trade logic. Offering up a 3rd and 5th rounder over the next two years and throwing in a 72 ovr Mark Ingram and you get a top ten pick? Really??? That's just bizarre. There also has been a lot of concern that pick 1 is a WR and pick 2 is a TE. Overall I think the draft looks 100 times better BUT I do wonder how effective it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    Definitely a lot more immersive with the draft. I hope we get enough scouting points this year. Not enough last year imo.
    I find it strange/concerning that there are ZERO videos of scouting. Has it not really change? Is it broken? Why no videos yet???

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaymo76 View Post
    I find it strange/concerning that there are ZERO videos of scouting. Has it not really change? Is it broken? Why no videos yet???
    There's videos of scouting. I posted one around E3. Check the second post of this link.

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    I was a bit worried seeing a WR and TE taken in the top two as well. That is rare. Especially with a QB going #3. People will almost always trade up or reach for a QB. With the success of a WR like Calvin Johnson and all these TEs (Vernon Davis was taken #4 or #6) it's possible we could see this happen. As long as they are studs I can live with it.

    I haven't seen much of the offseason stuff either. Shopmaster did tweet that free agency is really good and that you will lose out on free agents to the cpu (unlike last year).

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    Another one from Tradition Sports specifically ALL about scouting.


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    Practise mode also from Tradition Sports. I'm not really big into practising to gain xp due to MY time restrictions.


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    I don't think 2000 points for scouting is enough. Last year it was too restrictive and I sure hope we can have info on more than 20-30 prospects when there are 250 kids that get drafted. Especially since we don't get basic numbers like 40 times and bench. Last year you had decent info on less than 20 kids imo and it all felt like a waste since it was barely useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudy View Post
    I don't think 2000 points for scouting is enough. Last year it was too restrictive and I sure hope we can have info on more than 20-30 prospects when there are 250 kids that get drafted. Especially since we don't get basic numbers like 40 times and bench. Last year you had decent info on less than 20 kids imo and it all felt like a waste since it was barely useful.
    I agree 100%. The scouting process last year was a joke and it made the draft almost pointless. Far more information needs to be known about far more draftees for 13.

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    I totally agree 2000 SP is a joke especially when some of those attributes have to be scouted multiple times to get the true rating, lol. I know Madden 12 scouting was unrealistic in that you only got 60 guys to scout during the year with mostly asinine ratings revealed like blocking attributes for defenders, but Madden 13 seems to have made it nearly impossible to get half that many players scouted during the year. Note to EA Tiburon there isn't 1 player drafted in the NFL that each team doesn't know the basics physical attributes on and college stats. So it seems yet again the User will be flying blind into the NFL draft, thanks. I know we haven't seen or I haven't heard about off-season scouting so maybe there is a senior bowl, scouting combine, pro days, and individual workouts section that allows for more scouting than the measly bit you get in-season. However, knowing EA Tiburon I doubt we get auto scouting for any of those if they are in the game at all.

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    I had tweeted Madscientist about that (he has the retail version) and he agreed that the user has a lot less info in the game than a real GM has in real life. I know that was also a big complaint from one of the first community days. The guys were begging for more points. I do think that was 2000 points per week and I hope we get a lot more points in the offseason. Why not even make it an option? If I want to double the points to make it easier for me why not let me do it? Unfortunately the Madden devs have decided you will play this mode exactly how they want you to play it - no extra scouting, no editing players, no ability to play games other than your own, etc.

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